NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Founders Edition

[Max(IT)]

Editor Choice for a card that do the same that 3080/6800XT do which are more than 2 years old. With 6800XT is cheaper!

Go buy a 6800XT then, and enjoy AMD driver’s heaven

really I cannot see the point people here is constantly speaking about the 6800XT, a card that in last Steam survey was positioned in THE VERY LAST position, just above the “others” category…

 

[W1zzard]

Good. This could be seen as a good recap. Added value instead of clickbait. I like it.


Ad would be good on our electricity bill too.

We're still noobs at this, learning with every video, and we're not in a rush. Our core competency is written reviews it's what I love doing

 

[dirtyferret]

They sell access to DLSS 3 etc. etc. so you are allowed to play specific AAA titles which take advantage of that.

god damn it, it's "added value" and you need to be appreciative of that! Buy two RTX 4070s, save more!

 

[Max(IT)]

I don't feel so bad paying 690 for my 6950XT now.

I would feel bad just looking at his power consumption.

We're still noobs at this, learning with every video, and we're not in a rush. Our core competency is written reviews it's what I love doing

Nothing can replace a good review, and you guys are quite good at that. But I’m getting older and I know new generations much prefer YouTube videos…
So maybe this is a solution for both.

 

[I_Want_Answers]

Basically you don't buy a card anymore but access to game.

This card seems to be expensive because if performs as a 3080/6800XT, 2 years later while being slightly cheaper.
nVidia sells you tech. Not hardware. They sell access to DLSS 3 etc. etc. so you are allowed to play specific AAA titles which take advantage of that.

Even in that case, I don't see AMD cards as alternative.
All the 6000 cards are ridiculously slow where matters, RT, while the good 7000 cards are ridiculously expensive compared to the nVidia package.

Not only that, but NVIDIA practically has a monopoly in the 3D modeling space.

People who focus exclusively on gaming either don't realize or choose to ignore the fact that AMD is an objectively worse buy for such cases. I 3D model in Blender and would be shooting myself in the foot were I to buy a 6800 XT now instead of this card. It might be a niche case, but it's worth pointing out since people rarely bring the point up during these discussions. It's getting better, but NVIDIA is still the industry standard and the hobbyist's choice.

 

[IDDQDS]

Hey, quick feedback. Love the site and have followed it for many, many years now. One thing I do miss, is the inclusion of the driver version on the charts. I think it adds greater transparency, increases awareness of how benchmarks are done, and makes it easier to compare benchmarks. Right now the user has to browse to the test page all the time, to find this data.

When/if the site moves to dynamic tables, an optional toggle on the charts could also be considered, for those that don't care about seeing the driver version. Just throwing ideas out in the open here. Below, I manually added the driver versions used in this review, and from what I can tell, the Intel card's driver version wasn't mentioned on the test system page. So, perhaps it would also help reviewers to spot missing data in the review

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-founders-edition/5.html

Cheers.

 

[Fleurious]

I’m curious what tangible benefits this card has over a 6800xt. Things like DLSS/frame gen don’t appeal to me but if i remember right nVidia had better nvenc encoding and streaming support which I do occasionally dabble in. Is this still the case?

 

[Legacy-ZA]

Overpriced turd.

 

[bug]

Editor Choice for a card that do the same that 3080/6800XT do which are more than 2 years old. With 6800XT is cheaper!

Well, it's not "the same". If outputs about the same performance levels, but it only draws 2/3rd the power to do so.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Awesome review as always but how far the 70 class has fallen is pretty disappointing

3070 was 2080ti performance
2070 was decently close to 1080ti like performance although up until this card it was the worst 70 class product
1070 better than 980ti performance
970 was 780ti like performance
670 better than 580 performance

Then we get to this steaming pile of crap not just the most expensive 70 class product but the worst in over a decade and likely longer than that.

I guess it's very efficient which is nice but it's disappointing that's all it offers over previous gen cards that are now cheaper while also coming with less vram than similar priced cards that came out 2 years ago.

 

[Camm]

Go buy a 6800XT then, and enjoy AMD driver’s heaven

Currently enjoying Nvidia's 'driver heaven' with a microstuttering 4090. So ah, glass houses?

 

[N3utro]

Great review, thank you TPU!

 

[Cr4zy]

So Nvidias new strategy is take the last gen drop the SKU by 10 take the last gen price and add a random amount to it.
I appreciate the efficiency improvements but at the current rate the 5060 is 3080 perf but it costs more than the previous gens higher spec?

These prices are just crazy, I've had this level of performance for 2 and a half years, at a lower price, who the fuck is actually buying these things

 

[bug]

So Nvidias new strategy is take the last gen drop the SKU by 10 take the last gen price and add a random amount to it.
I appreciate the efficiency improvements but at the current rate the 5060 is 3080 perf but it costs more than the previous gens higher spec?

These prices are just crazy, I've had this level of performance for 2 and a half years, at a lower price, who the fuck is actually buying these things

Otoh, those willing to employ DLSS3.

 

[W1zzard]

Love the site and have followed it for many, many years now

When/if the site moves to dynamic tables

There's no plan for dynamic tables. Having static images makes it easy for people to share our charts around, which is worth much more than anything that dynamic charts can add.

One thing I do miss, is the inclusion of the driver version on the charts. I think it adds greater transparency, increases awareness of how benchmarks are done, and makes it easier to compare benchmarks. Right now the user has to browse to the test page all the time, to find this data.

I feel it adds too much noise to the charts. By that same logic you could request CPU, chipset and memory config included in each chart. Oh and OS, too. I rather have those people who are interested in these details go to a specific page, which I always make sure is correct and contains all the info.

Sorry about the Intel driver version, and I actually don't remember which version I used t.t
I take great care to not recycle results on old drivers and retest everything every few months. For new releases there is usually only one driver and that's the official press driver.

 

[TheDeeGee]

Great performance and efficiency, time will tell about the memory configuration, and the price is still just too damn steep imo. Best value so far, but far from amazing. Looks like all the partner cards TPU reviewed are 8-pin too, nice. Can't wait to see what one does when undervolted.

Probably very good, my 4070 Ti does 155 Watts with a 5% performance drop. That's with the power limit at 55%.

But i played 60 FPS capped anyways, and i see 40-60 Watts usage.

 

[Slane]

We're still noobs at this, learning with every video, and we're not in a rush. Our core competency is written reviews it's what I love doing

Yours written reviews are the most comprehensive et detailed around the WWW. Keep going and thanks for them.

 

[gffermari]

Not only that, but NVIDIA practically has a monopoly in the 3D modeling space.

People who focus exclusively on gaming either don't realize or choose to ignore the fact that AMD is an objectively worse buy for such cases. I 3D model in Blender and would be shooting myself in the foot were I to buy a 6800 XT now instead of this card. It might be a niche case, but it's worth pointing out since people rarely bring the point up during these discussions. It's getting better, but NVIDIA is still the industry standard and the hobbyist's choice.

You want RT performance: nVidia
You want DLSS2/3: nVidia
You want nvenc: nVidia
You want CUDA for ANYTHING OUT THERE apart from gaming: nVidia
etc. etc.

And you have AMD to price their gpus competitively to nVidia? On what ground?
Anyway, the 6000 cards do not exist for me. The whole package is problematic.
The 7000 are good but very badly priced. I would purchase one if they were cheaper.

 

[wolf]

Probably very good, my 4070 Ti does 155 Watts with a 5% performance drop. That's with the power limit at 55%.

But i played 60 FPS capped anyways, and i see 40-60 Watts usage.

Holy hell that's impressive. This any anthing below it by extension is going to be an SFF dream. I'm hoping this gen there's a low profile card too.

 

[Raendor]

Let’s not forget that 3080 can be nicely undervolted. The card has been set to unnecessarily high stock voltage compared to what it actually needs. Cuts power usage significantly.

 

[3211]

conclussion: faster than 3080
looks at graphs: identical at 1440p and 5% faster 3080 at 4k

faster than 3080 ...

 

[mechtech]

Great reviews as always.

what happened to the Borderlands 3 bench?

any plans to add CS2? Although it will probably be 350+ fps lol

thanks

 

[aciDev]

No plans for that. The goal is actually to make short ~5 minute summary videos, I can't stand those 20++ minute videos that dance around the topic just to get preferred by the YT algo, because they are longer than 20 minutes

Are shorts bad economically wise?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

You want RT performance: nVidia
You want DLSS2/3: nVidia
You want nvenc: nVidia
You want CUDA for ANYTHING OUT THERE apart from gaming: nVidia
etc. etc.

And you have AMD to price their gpus competitively to nVidia? On what ground?
Anyway, the 6000 cards do not exist for me. The whole package is problematic.
The 7000 are good but very badly priced. I would purchase one if they were cheaper.

Even with all that this card is extremely meh compared to pretty much any previous 70 class product. I think even the meh AF 2070 was more exciting.

 

[EatingDirt]

100.628437%... 0.628% faster in classic raster, while being 22% slower in ray tracing, the standard that is being used in all modern game engines moving forward, while consuming 100 W more when gaming. Seems like a wise choice to go for the "winning" RX 6800 XT!

That's also not taking into account DLSS and frame generation.

I'm not sure if I'd count better raytracing performance as a plus for the 4070. DLSS sure. Frame Generation is actually less useful the lower range into the product stack you go because of increased input latency.

Unless you play at 1080p, most raytracing experiences will be sub-par with the 4070 Ti. Moving forward, raytracing performance and the hardware requirements will continue to balloon and the 12GB limitation of the 4070 could also become apparent at 1440p.

The Value of the 4070 Ti just isn't there at $600. With 15-18% less perf/$ than the 6800XT in normal rasterization tasks. It seems the AIB's agree, because every AIB 4070 Ti card reviewed today is the same price as the FE, at $600.