First time builder, starting with AMD Ryzen 7 3700X, decided on HYTE Y60, now choosing motherboard.

[WowRly]

I'll try that next weekend.

Here's a picture of the plate itself. The black part where the 4 standoffs go is shown here.

Edit. I screwed in two of the standoffs just for demonstration. The MB would be between the standoffs and plate, basically that black part. But that back plate is too loose. It just seems to fit fine when I use those 2 parts that I showed a picture of earlier (but I was getting 79C temps in that setup).

There's nothing that says that the plate can't be faulty in some way. On Amazon it is titled (the one that I bought):

DGZZI AM4 Backplane Back Durable CPU Heatsink Bracket Motherboard CPU Fan Cooling Mounting Sheet Plate for AM4 AMD Socket​

This could be nothing. But now I see one of the 1 star reviews says (84% were 5 star reviews): "DO NOT PURCHASE. The brackets for retention clips are poorly made. They do not go out far enough to allow for proper mounting"

 

[A Computer Guy]

I think the problem is simple. You need to close the gap on your back plate (assuming it's correctly AM4 standard) so your standoffs are out far enough so they can reach the mounting bracket thumb screws.
Trying to do this vertically while the board is installed will be PITA so you take the motherboard out and lay it flat on it's back so gravity will push in the backplate while you mount the cooler.
The plastic retention clips are a different matter and are not used in your situation.

(edit: I like drawing diagrams when I get a chance so I have updated it, sorry not to scale but you get the idea)

 

[eidairaman1]

I'll try that next weekend.

Here's a picture of the plate itself. The black part where the 4 standoffs go is shown here.

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Edit. I screwed in two of the standoffs just for demonstration. The MB would be between the standoffs and plate, basically that black part. But that back plate is too loose. It just seems to fit fine when I use those 2 parts that I showed a picture of earlier (but I was getting 79C temps in that setup).

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There's nothing that says that the plate can't be faulty in some way. On Amazon it is titled (the one that I bought):

DGZZI AM4 Backplane Back Durable CPU Heatsink Bracket Motherboard CPU Fan Cooling Mounting Sheet Plate for AM4 AMD Socket​

This could be nothing. But now I see one of the 1 star reviews says (84% were 5 star reviews): "DO NOT PURCHASE. The brackets for retention clips are poorly made. They do not go out far enough to allow for proper mounting"

To tighten the backplate id use a foam pad.

Next time buy a new motherboard

 

[WowRly]

Progress is always good.

CPU Cooler is fixed (the temperature went down a few degrees more after I took the picture). Yes, the retention mounting plate was loose, but that was OK. Once the AIO pump is attached to the standoffs, the retention mounting plate has to be pushed in for the thumbscrews to connect (and once these thumbscrews connect, the plate is no longer loose). The problem was that sometimes you can push the retention mounting plate in and still not have the AIO pump connect enough for the thumbscrews to fit (that's what happened to me the first time)--It's quite delicate and, more or less, requires a second pair of hands (someone needs to hold the retention mounting pushed while you carefully adjust the AIO pump).

I changed PCIE to 3 in the BIOS and tried the Radeon RX 6800 XT. But still no luck. I'll try and get that GPU returned and get something that has warranty from MicroCenter, probably Friday or this weekend.

 

[eidairaman1]

Progress is always good.

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CPU Cooler is fixed (the temperature went down a few degrees more after I took the picture). Yes, the retention mounting plate was loose, but that was OK. Once the AIO pump is attached to the standoffs, the retention mounting plate has to be pushed in for the thumbscrews to connect (and once these thumbscrews connect, the plate is no longer loose). The problem was that sometimes you can push the retention mounting plate in and still not have the AIO pump connect enough for the thumbscrews to fit (that's what happened to me the first time)--It's quite delicate and, more or less, requires a second pair of hands (someone needs to hold the retention mounting pushed while you carefully adjust the AIO pump).

I changed PCIE to 3 in the BIOS and tried the Radeon RX 6800 XT. But still no luck. I'll try and get that GPU returned and get something that has warranty from MicroCenter, probably Friday or this weekend.

Always best to buy brand new when you are unsure about building anything.

 

[Mussels]

I'm guessing this does not necessarily rule out the riser cables because the riser cables may just not recognize the Radeon RX 6800 XT

It's not "being recognised" it's "Your cable cant handle PCI-E 4.0"

The RX550 error about not supporting UEFI *could* be a coincidence, after several failed boots the BIOS could enable CSM thinking its neccesary when its not. It's fine to leave CSM on while testing, and disable it once everythings working to get ReBar enabled.

Theres more than one PCI-E setting you can change to 3.0, make sure you're altering the one for the x16 slot

I noticed that CPU temperature is showing to be about 80C immediately after getting into BIOS and then keeps going up quite quickly. When it gets to about 95C or 97C, the computer shuts down and the monitor goes black.

jesus christ

Also, I noticed that in BIOS that the BIOS version that is listed is 4602 x64.

I have the F variant of that board, theres modded BIOSes available that can only be flashed with the USB flashback method, once you get this other stuff sorted

The issue with installing the CPU Cooler without the two parts I have a picture of above is that when I screw in the 4 standoffs to hold the retention mounting bracket (that sits on the back), it does not hold that retention mounting bracket securely in place. In other words, the retention mounting bracket is loose. It's still screwed so that it does not fall off but it has quite a lot of wiggle. I know there are standoffs that are for intel and separate ones for AMD. I'm obviously using the AMD ones. Edit. And CPU Cooler can't be connected to those standoffs because they are just too short to screw the thumb screws in.

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Those coolers come with two sets of screws, one for intel one for AMD. You using the right ones?

Unless if the sensor on the mobo is bad...

That's not possible as they read the sensor from within the CPU

I hadn't realised what cooler was being used, but looking at the image oh god - that was installed very wrong

That looks like the H100i Elite
iCUE H100i RGB ELITE Liquid CPU Cooler (corsair.com)

That cooler comes with multiple bags of accesories for multiple sockets including several screw sizes, they are not interchangeable.

There's four seperate mounting plates as well, even if the holes line up it may be the wrong one

There should be no black plastic retention arms installed on the motherboard.
That cooler screws into the stock backplate, and yes you need to hold that in place by hand to get the first screws in - this is normal for this sort of cooler.

It looks like you have the AM4 mounting bracket but the screws you're using appear to be the intel ones - they're longer on one side than the other

 

[WowRly]

Thanks, I did get it fixed as I indicated in the previous post. My next step is to buy a GPU (tomorrow, most likely) and then try to get the system running, e.g., I'm pretty sure I'll need Windows 11 on it, etc.

 

[eidairaman1]

Thanks, I did get it fixed as I indicated in the previous post. My next step is to buy a GPU (tomorrow, most likely) and then try to get the system running, e.g., I'm pretty sure I'll need Windows 11 on it, etc.

Run W10 for now

 

[WowRly]

I installed the ASRock AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT Phantom Gaming D Overclocked Triple Fan 16GB GDDR6 PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card with no issues. I also installed Windows 10 from a flashdrive. Right now I'm typing this post from the new build. Any tips on the next steps, e.g., what updates to do, what programs to add to measure CPU temps, etc?

 

[A Computer Guy]

I installed the ASRock AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT Phantom Gaming D Overclocked Triple Fan 16GB GDDR6 PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card with no issues. I also installed Windows 10 from a flashdrive. Right now I'm typing this post from the new build. Any tips on the next steps, e.g., what updates to do, what programs to add to measure CPU temps, etc?

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Did that case allow for intake fans in the bottom? It would be good to give the GPU more fresh air if possible.

 

[WowRly]

Y60 comes with 2 fans on the bottom, 1 on the left side. I added the CPU cooler which has 2 fans on the side. I don't have any fans on the top.

 

[Lost_Troll]

Any tips on the next steps, e.g., what updates to do, what programs to add to measure CPU temps, etc?

The freeware version HWiNFO 64 to monitor the temps and clocks. You can also look at CPUID and GPUID as well if you want some detailed information on your CPU and GPU versions and ID's.

 

[eidairaman1]

I installed the ASRock AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT Phantom Gaming D Overclocked Triple Fan 16GB GDDR6 PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card with no issues. I also installed Windows 10 from a flashdrive. Right now I'm typing this post from the new build. Any tips on the next steps, e.g., what updates to do, what programs to add to measure CPU temps, etc?

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To keep it running smoothly, For Win10 and 11:

Turn on Windows System Restore

Turn off automatic restarts when crashed.
Disable Windows Update completely.

Get Spyware Blaster (does not run in background or hog resources)

Use www.askwoody.com to vette windows updates

Then use this video to install only updates you need.

Do not Install New GPU Drivers every month.

If you dont use MS Edge (Internet Explorer) Go into Scheduled Tasks and disable checking for updates every startup.

Stay away from Warez/Torrents/Piratebay/Limewire/Kazaa/SuprNova, Pornographic sites.

Use www.blackviper.com to trim down some services.

Kill off onedrive/drop box, uninstall unnecessary programs(Apps) that you will never use.

Use only local accounts, not ms accounts

 

[Mussels]

I installed the ASRock AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT Phantom Gaming D Overclocked Triple Fan 16GB GDDR6 PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card with no issues. I also installed Windows 10 from a flashdrive. Right now I'm typing this post from the new build. Any tips on the next steps, e.g., what updates to do, what programs to add to measure CPU temps, etc?

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HWinfo64, dont install any software you dont 100% need - if you can skip icue, motherboard software etc, do so.

Eidas advice above is safe, but may be overkill for many. I do definitely agree with not immediately installing driver updates without a reason, as all GPU companies have flops sooner or later. Dont disable services without knowing 100% what they do, as sooner or later you'll run into problems that no one can solve, becase they rely on something you disabled thats on by default.

BloatyNosy has a terrible name, but is a good windows debloater/tweaker - i dont recommend using it on default settings, but instead reading the options and picking only those that apply to you, after windows is fully updated (you could remove something like teams, only for it to be updated back in)

 

[A Computer Guy]

Ancient Gameplays seems to be a good source to check if AMD Graphics drivers are any good before you install them. He often tests and reviews the drivers after they are released.

 

[eidairaman1]

HWinfo64, dont install any software you dont 100% need - if you can skip icue, motherboard software etc, do so.

Eidas advice above is safe, but may be overkill for many. I do definitely agree with not immediately installing driver updates without a reason, as all GPU companies have flops sooner or later. Dont disable services without knowing 100% what they do, as sooner or later you'll run into problems that no one can solve, becase they rely on something you disabled thats on by default.

BloatyNosy has a terrible name, but is a good windows debloater/tweaker - i dont recommend using it on default settings, but instead reading the options and picking only those that apply to you, after windows is fully updated (you could remove something like teams, only for it to be updated back in)

There is a chart on the blackviper site which have categories that are safe to turn off or not turn off or go bare bones...

Ive been using that page since I believe the XP days along side a Maximum PC Magazine from 2006 for registry tweaks.

It made the 5800 build that much more optimized (and no Im not running W11 bare bones)

Spyware blaster has been a tool around since WXP and version is updated every few years, it supports edge too, there are monthly updates for it, best part is it helps with tightening down OS security on the web.

 

[WowRly]

If anyone knows where I can get the full version of Windows without paying the full price, let me know. It's not a big deal, just mildly annoying:

 

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If anyone knows where I can get the full version of Windows without paying the full price, let me know. It's not a big deal, just mildly annoying:

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[Mussels]

There is a chart on the blackviper site which have categories that are safe to turn off or not turn off or go bare bones...

Ive been using that page since I believe the XP days along side a Maximum PC Magazine from 2006 for registry tweaks.

It made the 5800 build that much more optimized (and no Im not running W11 bare bones)

Spyware blaster has been a tool around since WXP and version is updated every few years, it supports edge too, there are monthly updates for it, best part is it helps with tightening down OS security on the web.

I too, used blackviper in the XP days - it's just that these days more things get reset in major windows updates, or prevent those updates.

An old one, but dotnet would create a hidden user account in XP? or vista/7 and people hated it and removed it, then Halo/Halo2? came out and needed it, and they couldnt fix it without an OS reinstall

I too debloat my OS's - I'm just compelled to remind people that if something breaks down the line, they need to remember what they changed and the price may be an OS reinstall to fix what they changed, if they cant undo the specific things they did

 

[eidairaman1]

I too, used blackviper in the XP days - it's just that these days more things get reset in major windows updates, or prevent those updates.

An old one, but dotnet would create a hidden user account in XP? or vista/7 and people hated it and removed it, then Halo/Halo2? came out and needed it, and they couldnt fix it without an OS reinstall

I too debloat my OS's - I'm just compelled to remind people that if something breaks down the line, they need to remember what they changed and the price may be an OS reinstall to fix what they changed, if they cant undo the specific things they did

I noticed system restore in w11 was off by default, i presume 10 was that way (I skipped it)

Iirc it was enabled by default in ME, XP, Vista, 7, not sure about 8

 

[Mussels]

I noticed system restore in w11 was off by default, i presume 10 was that way (I skipped it)

Iirc it was enabled by default in ME, XP, Vista, 7, not sure about 8

It's default on in 10 and 11?

 

[A Computer Guy]

It's default on in 10 and 11?

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I think it's off by default on windows 10. Checking 3 of my systems it's off on 2 and I remember specifically turning it on for 1..

 

[Mussels]

I think it's off by default on windows 10. Checking 3 of my systems it's off on 2 and I remember specifically turning it on for 1..

That's definitely odd, it's on by default in every system here

 

[WowRly]

Thanks to everyone who helped me build this system (better to say it late than never). I now get why ppl go through the trouble of building a PC gaming system. It's been working very well over the last several weeks, except for one minor issue that I will fix. In periods of intense Cyberpunk 2077 gaming, the CPU temperature does go up quite a bit. I've experienced internet disconnections a handful of times (I'm just going to guess that these 2 things are related w/o proof b/c I never observed the two at the same time). I think what I'm going to do is add some very good fans on the top part of the case and hope that that makes the difference and maybe see about fan or CPU pump settings.

P.S. I hope I'm right to assume that in the winter the whole CPU temperature thing becomes less of an issue.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Thanks to everyone who helped me build this system (better to say it late than never). I now get why ppl go through the trouble of building a PC gaming system. It's been working very well over the last several weeks, except for one minor issue that I will fix. In periods of intense Cyberpunk 2077 gaming, the CPU temperature does go up quite a bit. I've experienced internet disconnections a handful of times (I'm just going to guess that these 2 things are related w/o proof b/c I never observed the two at the same time). I think what I'm going to do is add some very good fans on the top part of the case and hope that that makes the difference and maybe see about fan or CPU pump settings.

P.S. I hope I'm right to assume that in the winter the whole CPU temperature thing becomes less of an issue.

If your motherboard has Intel i225-V NIC, then that's why you may experience sporadic disconnections. It's a pile of junk and a lot of socket AM4 boards have the earlier revision chips that are more prone to that issue, but it happens on the B3 and even on the i226-V.

As for CPU temp going up under heavy load, that's to be expected. Remember, hot air goes up, if you decide to install top exhaust fans make sure that they are pulling air out of your case in an upwards direction.