Upgrade or go for new stuff?

[theposguy]

Hey all!

I have some spare parts to build a 6/7th generation gaming desktop, mostly for WoW, some basic Sketchup and AUTOCAD (which I run, but very very rare).

What I only need to buy is:

• CPU (Not sure if I should go for a i5 7600K or i7 6600K, advice here would be really nice)
• RAM (Looking for Corsair Vengeance 3200MHz, or GSkill Ripjaws, at least 16GB, also, advice would be nice)
• Fancooler and case (Cheap ones, not gonna run big OC and stuff like that)

The parts that I already have:

• ASUS Z270 Prime
• Samsung EVO m2 SSD
• 2x 1TB Patriot SATA SSD
• EVGA 1000W modular PSU
• EVGA GTX 1070 FTW2 8GB

According to my math, I would spend around $100-$140 to get this build running, but I'm not sure if it's worth it.

 

[DarkDreams]

If you just ditch the old motherboard, you can use all other components in a new system. Seems like a much better way to go in my eyes, because you get way more for your money that way and it will remain useful far longer.

 

[dgianstefani]

Don't buy a 6/7th gen i5, they're only four threads which will kill performance.

7700K at minimum four core eight thread, but a better option would be to buy a 13th gen i3/i5 with B760 board.

13600K would be ideal, as it's the cheapest option with Raptor Lake cores, the rest are rebranded 12th gen Alder Lake dies.

13100 is also a solid option and still more than twice as fast as a 6600K/7600K.

Whatever RAM you buy, get 2x16 GB, it's cheap enough.

 

[GerKNG]

i'd keep the SSDs and PSU and sell the rest.
a ryzen 5 5500 and a dirt cheap A class board costs the same .

 

[Hyderz]

definately new parts

is there a ballpark on how much you kinda want to spend?

 

[dgianstefani]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZZYXC6

For a build worth keeping.

$150 won't get you anything worth keeping, and won't match the parts you already have.

Don't buy an F series CPU as the tiny saving isn't worth the loss of iGPU which is great backup and useful for certain productivity tasks.

You could swap the 13400 for a 13600K to get a large boost in performance.

 

[Athlonite]

According to my math, I would spend around $100-$140 to get this build running, but I'm not sure if it's worth it.

It won't be worth it you'd be better served with a newer mobo/cpu/ ram combo even if you only go for last gen stuff to save a few bucks it'll still kick the ass off of z270 and i7 7600 or 6600
AM4 + R7 5600X or 5800X3D + 32GB's (2x 16GB) DDR4 3600MT/s
or
LGA 1200 + i7 11700K + 32GB's (2x 16GB) DDR4 3600MT/s

everything else in your list will work just fine with the above mobo/cpu/ram combos

 

[dgianstefani]

It won't be worth it you'd be better served with a newer mobo/cpu/ ram combo even if you only go for last gen stuff to save a few bucks it'll still kick the ass off of z270 and i7 7600 or 6600
AM4 + R7 5600X or 5800X3D + 32GB's (2x 16GB) DDR4 3600MT/s
or
LGA 1200 + i7 11700K + 32GB's (2x 16GB) DDR4 3600MT/s

everything else in your list will work just fine with the above mobo/cpu/ram combos

Don't buy 11th gen intel.

 

[theposguy]

Wow! Thanks for all the replies.

Won't go AMD. I'm Intel/nVidia fanboy lol.

Also, I was checking on 13 gen Intel's, but I don't want to spend that much on a CPU only.

The budget (which I should have said it on my first post) could be around 300ish to get a CPU+MOBO+RAM in case that I ditch the current MOBO, which seems to be the way to go.

 

[dgianstefani]

12100/400 and b660, used if necessary.

RAM buy new, 32 GB.

 

[tussinman]

Used AM4 would be the obviously option but you said Intel only

World of warcraft if I remember correctly only really cares about single thread performance so something like the 12100 with stock cooler, a entry level B660, and 32gb 3200mhz ram should only cost mid 200s.

Used you could probably do that combo sub 200 which is why most say don't upgrade your current platform (used 6700/7700k with ram and cooler wouldn't be much cheaper than an entry level 12th gen setup)

 

[Why_Me]

Wow! Thanks for all the replies.

Won't go AMD. I'm Intel/nVidia fanboy lol.

Also, I was checking on 13 gen Intel's, but I don't want to spend that much on a CPU only.

The budget (which I should have said it on my first post) could be around 300ish to get a CPU+MOBO+RAM in case that I ditch the current MOBO, which seems to be the way to go.

12400F + B660 or B760 board + DDR4 3200.

 

[P4-630]

Maybe you should check out this:

12600K + ASRock Z690 Pro RS ATX + G.SKILL DDR5-6000 for $364

Does this look like a good deal? https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4551663

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($19.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($128.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: *Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($29.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $327.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-06-19 14:17 EDT-0400

 

[Wirko]

7700K at minimum four core eight thread

That minimus is also the maximum. The issue with top CPUs for each platform is that they maintain a high price for many years, as they are what every upgrader desires the most.
I think it's also worth looking for a 6700K, or maybe give up overclocking and find a cheap 7700 non-K. If the old mobo remains, that is.

 

[eidairaman1]

Waste of time

 

[AlwaysHope]

Can still buy new AM4 mobo/cpu parts for really low prices now & with 6c12t. BUT because the OP has proclaimed they are Intel fanboi, locks themselves into a more expensive upgrade even if going with 12th/13th gen low end parts.

Don't buy 11th gen intel.

At current pricing, yes. Retailers still charging too high prices even for basic i5-11400f! Must have a lot of old stock they don't want to loose $ over.

 

[dgianstefani]

Can still buy new AM4 mobo/cpu parts for really low prices now & with 6c12t. BUT because the OP has proclaimed they are Intel fanboi, locks themselves into a more expensive upgrade even if going with 12th/13th gen low end parts.


At current pricing, yes. Retailers still charging too high prices even for basic i5-11400f! Must have a lot of old stock they don't want to loose $ over.

12/13th gen are much faster per core than anything AM4. 5800X3D comes close in games due to cache, but anything that can't take advantage of cache, still much slower than Intel.

If op is buying a quad/six core, per core perfomance matters.

 

[AlwaysHope]

12/13th gen are much faster per core than anything AM4. 5800X3D comes close in games due to cache, but anything that can't take advantage of cache, still much slower than Intel.

If op is buying a quad/six core, per core perfomance matters.

If the OP is on a set budget, that will be a challenge to fulfil with 12/13th gen Intel. Prices ( at least here in Australia & would not be surprised in the slightest are very similar in other parts of the world today) A Ryzen 5 5500 can be found for as little as AUD $139 now. B550 boards kick in at $150.

 

[Mussels]

Don't buy a 6/7th gen i5, they're only four threads which will kill performance.

7700K at minimum four core eight thread, but a better option would be to buy a 13th gen i3/i5 with B760 board.

13600K would be ideal, as it's the cheapest option with Raptor Lake cores, the rest are rebranded 12th gen Alder Lake dies.

13100 is also a solid option and still more than twice as fast as a 6600K/7600K.

Whatever RAM you buy, get 2x16 GB, it's cheap enough.
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^ This.


My old ITX system was a 6600K, and it's showing its age for its new owner.
Meanwhile my older 4770K is outperforming it now, due to the extra threads.

2x16GB is definitely the way to go, prices are so cheap now.


I agree with selling the board and going newer - I'm a fan of AM4 and it's longevity meaning second hand boards are cheap and plentiful, so i'd point out you can get literally any AM4 motherboard, update the BIOS and slap a 5600x in there with 2x16GB of RAM for dirt cheap and still have CPU performance FAR above what your current GPU can handle


You can use this page of the 1300KS review to see where CPU's FPS values max out, since it's tested with a 4090
Intel Core i9-13900KS Review - The Empire Strikes Back - Game Tests 4K / RTX 4090 | TechPowerUp

A 5600x can run around 150FPS on average at ultra settings, while using very little power and happily running on a stock cooler with cheap DDR4 memory (3200-3600)


Considering how poorly intel 10th and 11th gen do vs budget AM4 5000/Intel 12th gen chips, i'd steer far away from them.