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Are you using an AMD Ryzen X3D CPU with 3D V-Cache?

Are you using an AMD Ryzen X3D CPU with 3D V-Cache?

  • Yes, Zen 3 (5000X3D)

    Votes: 4,330 13.6%

  • Yes, Zen 4 (7000X3D)

    Votes: 3,038 9.5%

  • Running a classic Ryzen

    Votes: 14,775 46.2%

  • Running Intel

    Votes: 9,807 30.7%
  • Total voters
    31,950
  • Poll closed .
Got my 5800X3D on launch day to replace a 3300X. Upgraded the monitor and then the GPU to 4K down the road. Since I'm happy with 60 fps and mostly play older games, my current setup should last me forever :laugh:
 
If the GPU landscape wasn't so horrible I would've pulled the trigger on a new build with a 5800X3D earlier this year. Instead, I upgraded a handful of components (SSDs, fans, quieter PS) in my 6 year old i7-7700K + 1080 Ti rig.
 
I now have Ryzen 7950X3D, MSI Tomahawk X670E and 32GB of 6000MHz G.Skill.

Another choice would have been GPU upgrade, but I decided against it. Only GPU which was slightly interesting was Sapphire 7900XT model. It would have been couple mm of free space to front fan in this Fractal Meshify C case. As haven't played anything since last december, so processor upgrade it was. Also I can now wait for PCI-E 5.0 SSD drives.
 
7800x3d is tempting but I'm gonna wait for a newer generation. I doubt I'd notice if I changed to it now
 
bubbleawsome said:
Got a 5900x when Zen 3 launched and can’t quite justify a 5800x3d. Hoping to go 7800x3d eventually though.
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same *opinion* here, LMFAO. Get a 12 corer or "cacheee":kookoo::roll::D

Sithaer said:
Still using my 12100F since 2022 february, its enough for my current use case so its gonna stay till 2024 or so and then maybe pick up a Raptor Lake refresh 14400 or a second hand 13400.
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same here, replaced 12100 with 12400F *for free literally* and don't need anything higher. If I'll up and switch to AM5 *for fun*, I'll got plain R5X or R7X.

geniekid said:
If the GPU landscape wasn't so horrible I would've pulled the trigger on a new build with a 5800X3D earlier this year. Instead, I upgraded a handful of components (SSDs, fans, quieter PS) in my 6 year old i7-7700K + 1080 Ti rig.
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QUIETER PS? LMFAO. I up PS for more power and quality, I couldn't call any of my SeaSonic from Bronze to Gold "LOUD", lol

WPS14 said:
Recently upgraded from 3800X to 5800X3D, paired with a 4080 and 64GB of RAM
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gotta read it at first "7800x3d", glad that i've re-read it and got it correctly. WISE.;):peace:
 
Wow, according to the poll so far Intel has 28% market share vs AMD in the DIY market. You can also see how AMD has been able to keep the price of the 5800X3D longer than any other AM4 chip. This seems to be the reverse of the GPU poll where AMD is around 26% market share. I mean the poll is Ryzen vs all Intel. Maybe you should do one on storage like HDD vs SSD vs Combined vs NVME.
 
kapone32 said:
Wow, according to the poll so far Intel has 28% market share vs AMD in the DIY market. You can also see how AMD has been able to keep the price of the 5800X3D longer than any other AM4 chip. This seems to be the reverse of the GPU poll where AMD is around 26% market share. I mean the poll is Ryzen vs all Intel. Maybe you should do one on storage like HDD vs SSD vs Combined vs NVME.
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While I wouldn’t say TPU readership is indicative of the whole DIY market, it’s definitely representative of the ‘educated’ DIY market. Amongst those who research building a PC, Nvidia is the majority preferred brand for GPUs and AMD is the majority preferred brand for CPUs.
 
5800X3D and 4090 here, works great. Originally had a 5950X but even at 4K with maxed out settings I was being CPU bottlenecked in games like the division 2 and far cry 6 as two examples. Popped in the 5800X3D, same BIOS and windows install and it solved that issue.

Gained an extra 20fps in average frame rates in far cry 6 along with far better lows, and the division 2 my GPU in some areas like the white house base was struggling to make it passed 93% usage roughly, same area with a 5800X3D and I have no issues pegging the GPU at 99/100% load, and again far smoother gameplay with better lows.

It was the cheapest upgrade to do because once I sold the 5950X it was pretty close to a free upgrade and gave me a little more life from AM4. Compared to swapping out the CPU board and RAM for AM5 or Intel equivalents it would have cost me about £1500 for not a lot of extra performance in gaming so it was an obvious choice. Another year or when the 8000 series is out and AM5 is a bit more polished it should be a good time to upgrade my platform.

Really is amazing what that extra cache is capable of when games make use of it.
 
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Raiden85 said:
It was the cheapest upgrade to do because once I sold the 5950X it was pretty close to a free upgrade and gave me a little more life from AM4. Compared to swapping out the CPU board and RAM for AM5 or Intel equivalents it would have cost me about £1500 for not a lot performance in gaming so it was an obvious choice.

Really is amazing what that extra cache is capable of when games make use of it.
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I had a similar dilemma & went for a 7800X3D (£440), an Asus X670E-F (£375) & 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30 (£216). A little short of your estimated £1,500, but still over £1k :eek: it's good...but it's not £1k good! Well, minus £300 for my previous 9900k+mobo+RAM stuff.
 
I am considering a 5800X3D, but:
- I would lose rendering performance vs. the current 3900X
- I'm gaming at 1440p limited to 72FPS with a 3060Ti, so I don't even know if I would see a performance benefit with X3D, because all the online benchmarks are done with 3090/4090 at unlocked FPS
- playing mostly older games (never pay more than 15€/game) so the specs are less demanding anyway

At this point I might just wait for next gen CPUs and GPUs instead of upgrading the current parts.
 
Pumper said:
I am considering a 5800X3D, but:
- I would lose rendering performance vs. the current 3900X
- I'm gaming at 1440p limited to 72FPS with a 3060Ti, so I don't even know if I would see a performance benefit with X3D, because all the online benchmarks are done with 3090/4090 at unlocked FPS
- playing mostly older games (never pay more than 15€/game) so the specs are less demanding anyway

At this point I might just wait for next gen CPUs and GPUs instead of upgrading the current parts.
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1. You'll be faster, not slower. The per core leap with Zen3 was that big.
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2. Minimum FPS skyrockets as much as maximum does.

Going by this you're anywhere from 17% faster to 35% faster, with the minimums showing the biggest gains
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3. Borderlands 2 is a friggin blast on this x3D, i can maintain 120FPS perfectly as maximum and minimum.
Sure I can do higher, but at that point the consistency is fantastic so I cap it there.
 
I built this PC to last a decade (10 yrs) and its done the first 5yrs very well but its getting time to upgrade this 2700X this yr sometime but its been hard to press the trigger with the prices of the 5800X3D which has only just got under the $500 price ( $499 to be exact) and then I also gotta upgrade the cooler to handle that extra heat. I am looking forward to the upgrade just gotta hope those prices keep coming down slowly and then the next 5yrs should be great :) (Till the 1080 Ti dies haha)
 
A decade would've pretty hard tbh given that the industry was stagnant for about half a decade, thanks to Intel & yes AMD, then with Zen we saw an unusual almost exponential growth in performance at the top end & the again a recent surge thanks to Apple/ARM & Intel getting back more on track with big/little ~

So if you're just looking for gaming 5800x3d would last you a fairly long time while 5950x for productivity.
Melvis said:
I am looking forward to the upgrade just gotta hope those prices keep coming down slowly and then the next 5yrs should be great :) (Till the 1080 Ti dies haha)
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The great thing is AMD's still making these chips what 3-4 years after their debut? Intel would've retired them already!
 
Melvis said:
I built this PC to last a decade (10 yrs) and its done the first 5yrs very well but its getting time to upgrade this 2700X this yr sometime but its been hard to press the trigger with the prices of the 5800X3D which has only just got under the $500 price ( $499 to be exact) and then I also gotta upgrade the cooler to handle that extra heat. I am looking forward to the upgrade just gotta hope those prices keep coming down slowly and then the next 5yrs should be great :) (Till the 1080 Ti dies haha)
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well i9-9900k is still ~230usd and 9700k is ~170usd. IDK when X3D chips will get cheap and what is cheap for top of the line cpu...
 
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Melvis said:
I built this PC to last a decade (10 yrs) and its done the first 5yrs very well but its getting time to upgrade this 2700X this yr sometime but its been hard to press the trigger with the prices of the 5800X3D which has only just got under the $500 price ( $499 to be exact) and then I also gotta upgrade the cooler to handle that extra heat. I am looking forward to the upgrade just gotta hope those prices keep coming down slowly and then the next 5yrs should be great :) (Till the 1080 Ti dies haha)
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It was around $270USD for a while there on amazon
Considering that puts it above most 13th gen and 7000 series CPU's, it's extremely cost effective if you're already on AM4 - at THAT price.

Watch and wait for the next price drop, i guess.
 
5800X3D is too tempting an offer to ignore for many Zen2 owners.
Given that it's often outperforming a 7700X, it's a good way to inject several more useful years into an existing build.

Is the 7800X3D faster? Of course it is - but it's a $350 upgrade instead of a $750 whole-platform replacement and the newer features of AM5 really aren't needed for most people yet. PCIe 5.0 storage isn't going to be mainstream for another half-decade and no PCIe 5.0 GPUs exist yet, nor are they likely to before mid-2025, at which point I'm certain that PCIe 4.0 x16 will still be more than adequate for GPUs!

I bought two 5800X3D before I succumbed to the cravings of spending $1500 away on two new AM5 platforms for home, and the performance deficit is absolutely justified by having an extra $800 of money still available for other unnecessary retail therapy. I clawed back $300 more from selling on my 5800X and 3600XT so the net result was an $1100 saving for two CPUs that are, at worst 20% slower, and in more realistic gaming scenarios within 5%.
 
Mussels said:
1. You'll be faster, not slower. The per core leap with Zen3 was that big.

2. Minimum FPS skyrockets as much as maximum does.

Going by this you're anywhere from 17% faster to 35% faster, with the minimums showing the biggest gains

3. Borderlands 2 is a friggin blast on this x3D, i can maintain 120FPS perfectly as maximum and minimum.
Sure I can do higher, but at that point the consistency is fantastic so I cap it there.
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I'm encoding with the GPU, so CPU performance does not matter.

5800X3D is way behind the 3900X in rendering (the whole reason why I got the 12core in the first place):
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And like I said, I'm gaming with 72FPS limit (75Hz VRR monitor), with mid-low end GPU, so it does not matter that the 1% lows 30% better, if it's over 100FPS anyway, not that these benchmarks tell me much, seeing how they are done with way better GPUs and do not relate any information on how the 5800X3D would improve things on the lower end card.
 
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Pumper said:
I'm encoding with the GPU, so CPU performance does not matter.

5800X3D is way behind the 3900X in rendering (the whole reason why I got the 12core in the first place):
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And like I said, I'm gaming with 72FPS limit (75Hz VRR monitor), with mid-low end GPU, so it does not matter that the 1% lows 30% better, if it's over 100FPS anyway, not that these benchmarks tell me much, seeing how they are done with way better GPUs and do not relate any information on how the 5800X3D would improve things on the lower end card.
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The lows are the same regardless of the better GPU, as you said if you're running 72FPS then anything with lows above 72 you're in happy land.

I used this image for rendering where the 5800x is faster than even the 3900XT, i hadn't checked Corona as i've never used that
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My 5800x and 5800x3D sit at the same clocks in heavy MT testing (4.45GHz x4D vs 4.2-4.4), so the results are pretty comparable.
 
people didn't buy the 3d v cache versions because they were for the most part too expensive and the money in most cases was better spent on beefier video card typically. this i think is the main reason most of us run regular zen, i only recently upgraded from my 3600/1660 super to the 5600x/3060 rtx 12gb, i am very happy right now. running @ 1440/165hz
 
Running a 5600x and a 5950x pair with rtx A2000 and rtx 4090 respectively.

I am not considering 5800X for now. Reasons is that weaker than 5950X for productivity and locked for overclock. I do need my fix for cpu tingering. So a locked cpu is a no go.

However if amd desided to release a 5950X3D, i will be interested for sure. We have seen prototypes of this cpu before, so it is possible to work. But Else i will not considering a 3D model before fully unlocket and i am ready for a platform change. That will not happen before i eventually change rtx 4090 for something else.
 
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