2/3rd System Upgrade

[Reccster]

Good Morning All,

Just looking for some opinions and the like with the following:

I'm looking at 2/3rd system upgrade in the way of upgrading my CPU (and whats needed) to either:
7800X3D w/ DDR5 6000Mhz Ram and £200 Motherboard (this varies as some days its a Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS, MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK or Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX)
or
13700K(or KF) w/ DDR5 7000Mhz CL34 Ram (Corsiar Vengeance) and a MSi Z790 Gaming Pro Motherboard (was the cheapest and reviewed quite well in my £200 budget range)

Parts i will be keeping from my System are:-
MSI RTX 3070 Gaming Z Trio
EVGA Supernova 650 G2
Notchua NH-D15
34" MSI Mag341CQ (UWQHD) - 100hz

Now, all i do is game and like the game to be visually perfect as much as possible (will be playing Starfield, Cyberpunk 2077 and anything of this type of genre in future) and watch ladies getting stuck in washing machines in the company of their step brothers.
Will the cooler be enough to cool either CPU's (read that they're both run very hot) and which seems to be the better option overall.

GPU will be upgraded to a RTX 5x80+ (or a high end 4xxx series if they fall down drastically in price).

Any help is very much appreciated as always, and its been a while since i did a Computer build for myself,

Thank you

 

[Vya Domus]

I'd go for the 7800X3D as it's faster and probably the cheaper option. They don't both run hot, the 7800X3D is much easier to cool.

 

[R0H1T]

By 13000k do you mean 13th gen unlocked or there's some typo in there? Depending on which chip you get, like i5-i9 your budget could be stretched thin. For me the 13600k is the budget gaming king from Intel, but YMWV.

Also I wouldn't spend extra on faster RAM unless it's really cheap.

 

[Hyderz]

+1 on 7800X3D
but if ya can hold out a bit intel's 14th gen is just around the corner and how those cpu perform... and compared to the 7800X3D
if ya cant wait then 7800X3D is still a solid choice for years to come

 

[oxrufiioxo]

If going intel you might want to wait for 14th generation even if you don't plan on buying it, 13th gen should drop in price.


7800X3D is awesome if all you mainly do is game. AM5 will have longer legs but that's only beneficial if you want a drop in upgrade 3-4 years from now.

 

[Reccster]

By 13000k do you mean 13th gen unlocked or there's some typo in there? Depending on which chip you get, like i5-i9 your budget could be stretched thin. For me the 13600k is the budget gaming king from Intel, but YMWV.

Also I wouldn't spend extra on faster RAM unless it's really cheap.

Sorry i meant 13700K(KF).

Thank you so far for the replies, what about the Notchua DH-D15 cooler? Would that be sufficent to cool it? Most/all of the reviews i've seen go AIO which isnt an option for me.
I believe i have a good case for air-flow (Coolermaster MasterCase H500P Mesh White w/ 140mm fan at back sucking air out)

 

[maxfly]

Sorry i meant 13700K(KF).

Thank you so far for the replies, what about the Notchua DH-D15 cooler? Would that be sufficent to cool it? Most/all of the reviews i've seen go AIO which isnt an option for me.
I believe i have a good case for air-flow (Coolermaster MasterCase H500P Mesh White w/ 140mm fan at back sucking air out)

Your d15 will cool anything you throw at it quite well.

 

[Why_Me]

Here's another option. The 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for an exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor (£359.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (£145.00 @ Computer Orbit)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (£131.75 @ Newegg UK)
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (£78.48 @ Amazon UK)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (£68.98 @ NeoComputers)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan (£8.62 @ Box Limited)
Total: £791.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-09-05 07:16 BST+0100

A better look at those components.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-tg-clear-tint/

The difference between the locked 12 gen i7 and unlocked i7 is one frame per second on average. I doubt it's much different with these 13 gen i7's.

 

[Reccster]

Thank you all, i decided AMD this time, i havent had an AMD since the athlon days, so I made the purchases this morning:-

AMD Ryzen™ 7 7800X3D
ASUS ROG STRIX B650-A GAMING Motherboard
32GB (2x16GB) Corsair DDR5 Vengeance PC5-48000 (6000), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 30, XMP 3.0, 1.4V
AM5 Mounting Kit for my Noctua NH-D15
2x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB PCIe NVMe M.2 (2280)

The rest of the system i will reuse:
500GB Crucial BX500 - Windows Drive Only
EVGA Supernova 650G2 PSU
MSI RTX 3070 Gaming Z Trio
Coolermaster Mastercase H500P Mesh White Case

Any tips before i install them tomorrow?

 

[Hyderz]

500GB Crucial BX500 - Windows Drive Only

u planning to use the sata ssd for os?

 

[bug]

Sorry i meant 13700K(KF).

Thank you so far for the replies, what about the Notchua DH-D15 cooler? Would that be sufficent to cool it? Most/all of the reviews i've seen go AIO which isnt an option for me.
I believe i have a good case for air-flow (Coolermaster MasterCase H500P Mesh White w/ 140mm fan at back sucking air out)

I can't speak for AMD, but Intel is easy to cool, you just need to power-constrain it. My 12600k is constrained to something like 125W max and I can cool it with a 30€ Arctic Freezer.
But like others have said, if going Intel, at this point you might as well wait for 14th gen later this year.

 

[Reccster]

u planning to use the sata ssd for os?

Yes, the 2x M.2 Drives will be for games mainly

 

[oxrufiioxo]

You may have issues if that ram kit doesn't have an expo profile.. Just giving you a heads up.