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FiftyTifty

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After seeing my energy bills spike up to £0.13/hour on my Vega 56 Pulse, along with the 30% better draw call performance in Fallout 4 and Oblivion...Yeah. Eyeing up a new graphics card that won't make me feel anxious when I glance at my energy meter.

Which models are good? I'm mainly looking at the budget lines, as 300 is insane but that's about as cheap as they go. There's quite a few models at that price point, and found the specs for a couple of them along with their hotspot temps in Techspot's reviews.

Asus Dual
Asus Dual OC - 4x 64Amp power phases, 32db on normal (71C), 24db on silent (77C)
Gigabyte Eagle OC
Gigabyte Windforce OC - 4x 63Amp power phases, 47db (97C)
Inno3D TwinX2 OC
MSI Gaming X - 4x 50Amp power phases, 25db (72C)
MSI Ventus 2X - 4x 50Amp power phases, 36db (83C)
PNY Verto
PNY XLR8 - 4x 63Amp, 25db (75C)
Palit Dual - 4x 60Amp power phases, 35db (81C)
Palit StormX - 4x 60Amp power phases
Zotac Gaming Twin Edge OC
Zotac Gaming solo
Zotac Twin Edge OC

As an aside, I asked Palit about the 4060 StormX, and they gave me the following info on its VRM:

GPU 4x phases driven by UPI RT8845A
GPU 4x 60Amp mosfets SM4507N/SM4503N
RAM 1x phase RT8237E
RAM 1x 60Amp mosfets SM4507N/SM4503N

Anyone know about the others? I'm looking for something that will last me a good five years like my trusty Vega 56. As in, not die. Because I'm poor. ASUS Have the best looking one, but they are scumbags with their RMA so I'd like to avoid that if possible.

Caveat: I've got a Freesync Premium monitor. GSync will work with it, right? It's got a Freesync range of 48-165Hz, which I limit to 55fps in games and have its refresh rate set to 120.
 
Yeah the Ventus is the worst of the lot, it was the same situation with the 3060s which I looked at for a while ago. Worst VRM, hot temps.
 
Based on this, the Asus Dual OC seems to be the MSRP 4060 to get:

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Lew Zealand said:
Based on this, the Asus Dual OC seems to be the MSRP 4060 to get:
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Yep, it's got the best designed cooler by the looks of it, and good (or, well, not worst) VRMs. I'll bite the bullet and hope I don't have to rely on ASUS' customer support.

Or I will, when I have the cash lmao.
 
FiftyTifty said:
After seeing my energy bills spike up to £0.13/hour on my Vega 56 Pulse, along with the 30% better draw call performance in Fallout 4 and Oblivion...Yeah. Eyeing up a new graphics card that won't make me feel anxious when I glance at my energy meter.


Caveat: I've got a Freesync Premium monitor. GSync will work with it, right? It's got a Freesync range of 48-165Hz, which I limit to 55fps in games and have its refresh rate set to 120.
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If that's the case, perhaps look at other ways to reduce power usage around the place.

Setting the gpu, games, and monitor to 60 fps can help with power consumption, especially vs 120hz. See if your power utility uses peak times/costs and try to do teh high power stuff during cheapy hours. I guess a laptop may be an option?

Honestly my desktop is a small % of my power consumption compared to other things like the clothes dryer, etc.

As for a card, I would look for a 3yr warranty, see if there is a depot near by so you dont have to pay shipping around the world. Then check reviews and pay attention to VRMs and cooler.
 
I have a asus 4060 dual OC on loan... it's hard to get anything good here even with biosmod... if I were you I would try asus strix or a 4060 ti. I think the dual oc is the minimum to take.
 
I don’t think a gpu can affect that much the energy bill.
I don’t like the power hungry gpus but for different reasons aka heat and psu requirements.

A kettle or a toaster consumes many times more energy in a year/month than any gpu.
 
mechtech said:
If that's the case, perhaps look at other ways to reduce power usage around the place.

Setting the gpu, games, and monitor to 60 fps can help with power consumption, especially vs 120hz. See if your power utility uses peak times/costs and try to do teh high power stuff during cheapy hours. I guess a laptop may be an option?

Honestly my desktop is a small % of my power consumption compared to other things like the clothes dryer, etc.

As for a card, I would look for a 3yr warranty, see if there is a depot near by so you dont have to pay shipping around the world. Then check reviews and pay attention to VRMs and cooler.
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gffermari said:
I don’t think a gpu can affect that much the energy bill.
I don’t like the power hungry gpus but for different reasons aka heat and psu requirements.

A kettle or a toaster consumes many times more energy in a year/month than any gpu.
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Energy bills here in the UK are crazy, and I use my computer for hours each day. While I hardly use a kettle or toaster. What are you cooking each day, every day, that requires hours of toaster use?

I got my smart meter right there, my computer is definitely gunning for the lions share of that terrifying end of month bill.

Don Zauser said:
I have a asus 4060 dual OC on loan... it's hard to get anything good here even with biosmod... if I were you I would try asus strix or a 4060 ti. I think the dual oc is the minimum to take.
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Are you overclocking it? I'm more the type to undervolt, since I'm after longevity and cool temps. Is the GPU otherwise decent?
 
There is. No way to predict how long it lasts. Besides Asus didn't cover some of the heat emitters closer to the slot combined with low airflow in fanless mode and hot cold cycles who knows what could happen.
 
FiftyTifty said:
Energy bills here in the UK are crazy, and I use my computer for hours each day. While I hardly use a kettle or toaster. What are you cooking each day, every day, that requires hours of toaster use?

I got my smart meter right there, my computer is definitely gunning for the lions share of that terrifying end of month bill.


Are you overclocking it? I'm more the type to undervolt, since I'm after longevity and cool temps. Is the GPU otherwise decent?
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My electric dryer uses 5500W lol and with kids it’s about 10 loads a week. I use between 700kw.hr to 1000 kwhr a month. About $160-$200/ month. Pc is a small small chunk of that.
 
N/A said:
There is. No way to predict how long it lasts. Besides Asus didn't cover some of the heat emitters closer to the slot combined with low airflow in fanless mode and hot cold cycles who knows what could happen.
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Of course they didn't. Typical. One option I could go with is to strap Noctua fans to the heatsink like I do my Vega 56 after its fans decided to start grinding. Maybe the larger radius of 120mm fans would help keep the hot bits in check?

mechtech said:
My electric dryer uses 5500W lol and with kids it’s about 10 loads a week. I use between 700kw.hr to 1000 kwhr a month. About $160-$200/ month. Pc is a small small chunk of that.
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Oof. Having a family, and using a dryer would do that. I just do 1 load a week in my washing machine without tumble drying. My total energy bill is around £100/month, but being house bound most of the time, my computer sees a lot of use. Just on idle, it pulls about 110W from the wall. Which is £0.04 an hour over the baseline of £0.01 an hour (around 30W is my baseline with the PC off).

Doesn't sound like a lot, but it adds up fast. Assuming all I do is have it idle, I'd spend about £120 a year on energy just from having my PC on (not even being used). Energy costs in the UK are insane now. Literally >3x what they were when I got my own place 4 years ago.
 
If you use A/C day in day out, that's one of the biggest power hogs...

(Luckily I don't need it)
 
FiftyTifty said:
Of course they didn't. Typical. One option I could go with is to strap Noctua fans to the heatsink like I do my Vega 56 after its fans decided to start grinding. Maybe the larger radius of 120mm fans would help keep the hot bits in check?


Oof. Having a family, and using a dryer would do that. I just do 1 load a week in my washing machine without tumble drying. My total energy bill is around £100/month, but being house bound most of the time, my computer sees a lot of use. Just on idle, it pulls about 110W from the wall. Which is £0.04 an hour over the baseline of £0.01 an hour (around 30W is my baseline with the PC off).

Doesn't sound like a lot, but it adds up fast. Assuming all I do is have it idle, I'd spend about £120 a year on energy just from having my PC on (not even being used). Energy costs in the UK are insane now. Literally >3x what they were when I got my own place 4 years ago.
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110w idle. Hmmm. Mine is about 80w including the monitor. Maybe try adjusting some settings before dumping additional cash on a gpu perhaps?
 
mechtech said:
110w idle. Hmmm. Mine is about 80w including the monitor. Maybe try adjusting some settings before dumping additional cash on a gpu perhaps?
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5800X3D, 4x16GB DDR4 3600MHz RAM, Vega 56, 2 NVME SSDs, 1 SATA SSD and 1 HDD. That's about what I'd expect from it. And the Vega 56 triples the power draw, because it uses somewhere between 210-270w. Add in efficiency loss from the wall, and we're at 450W playing Elden Ring at 55fps.

Did the math, and I'd break even after about a year with my savings from the energy bill.

Just did some digging, with the INNO3D Twin X2 OC going for £270. Taking a look at the power phases, I'm not too sure how to read the specs?

Power phases: RT8845a 4+1
Mosfets: qm3092m6 & qm3098m6

Their tech specs are very...Technical. Their pulse drain current rating is 123 and 230 respectively, but I don't think that's gonna be the same statistic as the current ratings for other cards by TechPowerup?
 
I was just going to ask something about this, in Gigabyte Windforce review someone said the degrees can't be THAT bad and @W1zzard said "Gigabyte thinks so, too, and is investigating". I was curious if something ever came from that?

Right now I am forced to choose between Gigabyte 4060 Windforce OC and Sapphire 6700XT Pulse. While I am leaning towards 4060 more for several reasons, the temps and sound kinda scares me with the card. What do you think? I will probably use with undervolt.
 
FiftyTifty said:
After seeing my energy bills spike up to £0.13/hour on my Vega 56 Pulse, along with the 30% better draw call performance in Fallout 4 and Oblivion...Yeah. Eyeing up a new graphics card that won't make me feel anxious when I glance at my energy meter.

Which models are good? I'm mainly looking at the budget lines, as 300 is insane but that's about as cheap as they go. There's quite a few models at that price point, and found the specs for a couple of them along with their hotspot temps in Techspot's reviews.

Asus Dual
Asus Dual OC - 4x 64Amp power phases, 32db on normal (71C), 24db on silent (77C)
Gigabyte Eagle OC
Gigabyte Windforce OC - 4x 63Amp power phases, 47db (97C)
Inno3D TwinX2 OC
MSI Gaming X - 4x 50Amp power phases, 25db (72C)
MSI Ventus 2X - 4x 50Amp power phases, 36db (83C)
PNY Verto
PNY XLR8 - 4x 63Amp, 25db (75C)
Palit Dual - 4x 60Amp power phases, 35db (81C)
Palit StormX - 4x 60Amp power phases
Zotac Gaming Twin Edge OC
Zotac Gaming solo
Zotac Twin Edge OC

As an aside, I asked Palit about the 4060 StormX, and they gave me the following info on its VRM:

GPU 4x phases driven by UPI RT8845A
GPU 4x 60Amp mosfets SM4507N/SM4503N
RAM 1x phase RT8237E
RAM 1x 60Amp mosfets SM4507N/SM4503N

Anyone know about the others? I'm looking for something that will last me a good five years like my trusty Vega 56. As in, not die. Because I'm poor. ASUS Have the best looking one, but they are scumbags with their RMA so I'd like to avoid that if possible.

Caveat: I've got a Freesync Premium monitor. GSync will work with it, right? It's got a Freesync range of 48-165Hz, which I limit to 55fps in games and have its refresh rate set to 120.
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Igor's lab did an article awhile back on the Vega 56 where they enabled ECO mode and undervolted their card. They managed to get 155% performance per watt as compared to stock. If you want to save power Vega 56 / 64 both respond very well to undervolting. The 4060 consumes 130 watts whereas the Vega 56 consumes 230, you can probably nock that down to 170 for the Vega 56 with tweaking.

If you are looking for a new card that will last 5 years and be super power efficient the 4060 ain't it. 8GB of VRAM is the same as your Vega 56, the memory bus is tiny on the 4060, and it's simply just lacking in resources. It's a 4050 die size being sold as a 4060. If that weren't enough, the 4060 is limited to PCIe 4.0 x8. If you happen to have a PCIe 3.0 motherboard this means you will loose performance. Hardware Unboxed just tested the 4060 Ti and it lost a significant amount of performance when used on a PCIe 4.0 motherboard. The 4060 really isn't that efficient either when compared to other current gen cards. It's actually behind the 4090, 4080, 4070 Ti, 4070, 7900 XTX, 7900 XT, and 4060 Ti when it comes to energy efficiency and that's before you consider that the 4090, 4080, 4070 Ti, 4070, 7900 XTX, and 7900 XT all respond better to undervolting and can push energy efficiency even further. Honestly for people that are concerned of power drawn, undervolting is an extremely easy and safe way to address that issue.

Unfortunately there's really nothing within your budget that'll last very long. The days of budget cards like the 970 delivering 76% of the flagship card's performance at a fraction of the price are gone. The 4060 is a mere 32% of the 4090's performance, it's an actual joke what you get for your money now. Heck not even the 4080 delivers the same level of performance relative to that gen's flagship as compared to the 970 and that's considering the 4080 costs as much as four 970s. That's before you consider that cards like the 4060 are already at their VRAM and bandwidth limits, they were designed to age poorly and force an upgrade within one to two generations. Of course this extends to AMD as well, who are just copying Nvidia's pricing structure.

The only option that I can think of is a 6700 XT which goes for around $300 USD but you'd still have to UV that card and I'm not so sure that card would last 5 years even with it's memory bandwidth and size advantages over other cards in this price range. It's just the best option currently available on the market within your price bracket.
 
Oh, I'm not looking for longevity in terms of GPU power, price:performance has barely budged since 2016, and the card is definitely underpowered. But I'm happy with a decent increase over the Vega 56, much lower power, and the much better draw call performance. 250 Pounds has usually been my limit for components, but GPU prices have increased over the gentrification of the market. It is what it is.

I'm not paying more than that, as that is absurd money to spend on a PC component already. And another lucky thing, is my motherboard has PCIe 4.0, so the x8 lanes won't be an issue.
 
FiftyTifty said:
Oh, I'm not looking for longevity in terms of GPU power, price:performance has barely budged since 2016, and the card is definitely underpowered. But I'm happy with a decent increase over the Vega 56, much lower power, and the much better draw call performance. 250 Pounds has usually been my limit for components, but GPU prices have increased over the gentrification of the market. It is what it is.

I'm not paying more than that, as that is absurd money to spend on a PC component already. And another lucky thing, is my motherboard has PCIe 4.0, so the x8 lanes won't be an issue.
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Got ya, at least you will be extracting as much value as you can get from the card.

Of the models presented I think any of them are fine except for the Gigabyte Windforce OC. Looking at reviews for the models you listed, most are between 60 - 70c but the Gigabyte Windforce OC hits 82.5c. While it's not unacceptable, it's significantly worse than competitors. Other then that card, you can mostly pick based on which you prefer visually as differences will be minor.
 
evernessince said:
Got ya, at least you will be extracting as much value as you can get from the card.

Of the models presented I think any of them are fine except for the Gigabyte Windforce OC. Looking at reviews for the models you listed, most are between 60 - 70c but the Gigabyte Windforce OC hits 82.5c. While it's not unacceptable, it's significantly worse than competitors. Other then that card, you can mostly pick based on which you prefer visually as differences will be minor.
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;( This is the card I am supposed to get as replacement. F

I am really curious whether sound/heat would be good enough with undervolt, tho I don't know how much can be done in 4000 series with how efficient they already are
 
evernessince said:
Got ya, at least you will be extracting as much value as you can get from the card.

Of the models presented I think any of them are fine except for the Gigabyte Windforce OC. Looking at reviews for the models you listed, most are between 60 - 70c but the Gigabyte Windforce OC hits 82.5c. While it's not unacceptable, it's significantly worse than competitors. Other then that card, you can mostly pick based on which you prefer visually as differences will be minor.
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Yeah it's not best bang for buck, but when I only have so much, I'll take the bang I can get. It's a shame about the Gigabyte one, as they went to the expense of using 3 fans and decently rated VRMs.
 
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