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Intel Core i9-14900K

W1zzard said:
You're saying 13900K is Editor's Choice but not 14900K which a very little bit better in everything?
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Yeah... That's what someone who is paying attention would say. Why don't you?

Imagine saying anything positive about a CPU, when it's performance increase is within margin or error. Honestly laughable that you selected this for editors choice man. Seriously.
 
Xaled said:
"Faster in productivity than any other AMD CPU"

Why beating AMD CPUs in Microsoft Office is a big achievment.?
Aslo in Adobe Premiere and After Effects. These applications never utilize(d) over %40 of my CPU, when Hardware (gpu) acceleration is not available, as in rendering a x264 video. So these application are not well optimized and not a good reference for "productivity". Even in hardware acceleration mode they never fully utilize gpus.

Let's hope we don't get back to the previous decade of %3-5 performance uplift per-series again.
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Barelly one upping AMD while consuming ALMOST TRIPLE.
 
Needs more cores!!
 
W1zzard said:
As mentioned in another thread, it's my job to do these reviews. Why would I be salty? Should a reviewer even be salty and not just stick to the facts?


I thought long about this, also polled other staffers, also about "but expensive", but look at the competitive landscape. These are really good CPUs, just like last-gen was really good CPUs
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The amount of work you've put into this is pretty impressive honestly. I can see why some are surprised by the editor choice award but honestly nothing from the current generation of CPU's is bad they all have their uses lots of good options across the stack depending on the user. I feel like your graphs alone do a good enough job for the average person to look at them and be like this cpu is for me or it's not for me and honestly I don't think I could ask for more as a consumer of tech products.

Even I will poke fun at the power consumption but at the end of the day for anyone that either want's to tune these chips a bit or is already on the platform they offer some of the best performance you can buy regardless if that isn't a significant change from 13th gen.

For me a price cut to 13th generation would have been way more exciting for others this might be a nice upgrade from a 12600k.

Looking forward to Zen5 and Arrowlake whatever one best fits my need will be my next platform but I for one am happy there are a ton of good options from both chip makers.
 
idk why this cpu got this award:
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dick_cheney said:
As a consumer why would you spend $200 more on a equal or slightly slower CPU to consume 3x more power.

Edit: For Gaming
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But it loses in gaming to x3d chips more often then not. Especially in 1% lows.
 
TheinsanegamerN said:
But it loses in gaming to x3d chips more often then not. Especially in 1% lows.
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The X3D chips are really what make this release a lot less exciting honestly for me at least. Although even an R5 7600 is more than fast enough for gaming honestly beyond that is just bragging rights which is fine.
 
W1zzard said:
As mentioned in another thread, it's my job to do these reviews. Why would I be salty? Should a reviewer even be salty and not just stick to the facts?


I thought long about this, also polled other staffers, also about "but expensive", but look at the competitive landscape. These are really good CPUs, just like last-gen was really good CPUs
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You're a more patient man than me; I'd be unenthusiastic about all the busywork of retesting and putting all the effort into a full set of article writeups just because Intel is pretending they have a new product.

If it were my job I'd be amazed if I could keep all my sarcasm and snide remarks about what a lazy nothingburger of a product 14th gen is out of such articles! More likely, I think I'd just take last year's 13900K review and copy it verbatim, like Intel did;

"Intel Core i9-1314900K Review"
 
oxrufiioxo said:
The X3D chips are really what make this release a lot less exciting honestly for me at least. Although even an R5 7600 is more than fast enough for gaming honestly beyond that is just bragging rights which is fine.
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I see it as "x3d is the chip you buy when you dont want to touch your CPU or mobo for a decade".

I dont plan on replacing mine for a LONG time.
 
rlifeh said:
idk why this cpu got this award:
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Because it's the same price and performance as the 13900K and AMD haven't made anything new yet either.
It's literally a drop-in replacement for the 13900K with zero downsides, so it gets the same award as the 13900K.

I know I'm taking the piss out of Intel for making a product launch out of nothing, but it doesn't change the fact that the 13900K/14900K is a really solid CPU that can do everything and is still as fast as the best offerings from AMD.

Honestly, the best thing about the 14900K is that the 13900K might get discounts as a result of being "old" lol.
 
Chrispy_ said:
Because it's the same price and performance as the 13900K and AMD haven't made anything new yet either.
It's literally a drop-in replacement for the 13900K with zero downsides, so it gets the same award as the 13900K.

I know I'm taking the piss out of Intel for making a product launch out of nothing, but it doesn't change the fact that the 13900K/14900K is a really solid CPU that can do everything and is still as fast as the best offerings from AMD.
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Until Zen 5 blows it out of the water.
 
Chrispy_ said:
You're a more patient man than me; I'd be unenthusiastic about all the busywork of retesting and putting all the effort into a full set of article writeups just because Intel is pretending they have a new product.

If it were my job I'd be amazed if I could keep all my sarcasm and snide remarks about what a lazy nothingburger of a product 14th gen is out of such articles! More likely, I think I'd just take last year's 13900K review and copy it verbatim, like Intel did;

"Intel Core i9-1314900K Review"
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And that's why he has one of the most popular hardware enthusiast sites on the web.

He doesn't assume that everyone cares what his 'feelings' are about a product and isn't out for edgy catchphrases or stupid youtube face thumbnails.

He does the tests, presents the results, and lets people (and this will be the shocker) make their own decisions.

Oh, and he gets to read all of the comments that the numpties leave.
 
Super Firm Tofu said:
Oh, and he gets to read all of the comments that the numpties leave.
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Isn't that why us numpties are here, after all?

Arco said:
Until Zen 5 blows it out of the water.
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I'm sure Zen5 will be great, but you won't be able to buy one for another 6 months at least, which is half a lifetime away, from a product's shelf-life perspective!
 
Not even 0.5% to show over the "previous generation" halo part. It's actually 0.3%; this seems to confirm what I was talking about in the preview thread: while clocks are more aggressive, the binning is not and the reduced power limit hurts its performance plenty compared to the 13900KS, which despite the 100 MHz lower targets sustains better averages as the gap between them is completely nil. When properly tweaked out and overclocked, the KS's hand-picked binning may come to shine and prevail over this processor pretty much entirely. No DLVR, no improved IMC, no physical changes. At least it's cheaper, I guess. What a disappointment.

AMD, this is the time to strike. Don't fumble this, it's a rare chance.

yeeeeman said:
what is the point of this launch? it's basically a mild 13th gen OC.
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Satisfy shareholders and avoid having to tell them that they don't have a product to ship this year.
 
Super Firm Tofu said:
And that's why he has one of the most popular hardware enthusiast sites on the web.

He doesn't assume that everyone cares what his 'feelings' are about a product and isn't out for edgy catchphrases or stupid youtube face thumbnails.

He does the tests, presents the results, and lets people (and this will be the shocker) make their own decisions.

Oh, and he gets to read all of the comments that the numpties leave.
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I equally value every perspective though this sites, GN, and HUB but like with anything it is never good to have one source of information and it's always best to look at the more positive perspectives and negative ones and then decide what camp you better fit in. I'm kinda neutral about this launch if it never happened it wouldn't make a ton of difference but I am sure some are happy about it.

I do think Intel has to do better though than just offer products that are sometimes better, sometimes worse than the competition based on what metric is important to the user we really need both companies to do better than this as consumers and even though these chips are more than good enough for almost any scenario it's still performance stagnation for the most part with just a higher number on the box.
 
Temps actually seem pretty reasonable @ stock (blender) compared to other high-end AMD or Intel CPU's and overclocked temps are very good in gaming and will only improve with an undervolt.

Impressive to see these things running close to 120°c with no thermal throttling up to 115°c. Power consumption is the biggest killer on these CPU's, undervolting and power limiting will help out here.

Will probably eventually pick one of these up to play around with knowing me..

14700K prob best chip this refresh.
 
Arco said:
Until Zen 5 blows it out of the water.
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don't jinx it man..... last thing we need is 2 chip makers being lazy against last gen, after all, that would create massive stagnation in a market that is at risk of being outpaced by the programs being made nowadays, thankfully we haven't had to deal with such a situation in the pc space, oh wait
 
theouto said:
don't jinx it man..... last thing we need is 2 chip makers being lazy against last gen, after all, that would create massive stagnation in a market that is at risk of being outpaced by the programs being made nowadays, thankfully we haven't had to deal with such a situation in the pc space, oh wait
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Last time that happened, CPUs lasted for a decade and software had to be optimized to make do with what was available.

You know, that's not all that bad sounding.
 
W1zzard said:
As mentioned in the article, I've manually set the throttle point to 115°C, up from the 100°C default
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Yeah, I noticed you did this with all three of your refresh reviews no? Is this 115°C setting new to only the refresh or could the 13xxxK be set like this too, apart from KS.
 
Outback Bronze said:
Yeah, I noticed you did this with all three of your refresh reviews no? Is this 115°C setting new to only the refresh or could the 13xxxK be set like this too, apart from KS.
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They can be set, I'm just not sure that's entirely safe. No physical changes or new stepping since the 13900K released.
 
Dr. Dro said:
Not even 0.5% to show over the "previous generation" halo part. It's actually 0.3%; this seems to confirm what I was talking about in the preview thread: while clocks are more aggressive, the binning is not and the reduced power limit hurts its performance plenty compared to the 13900KS, which despite the 100 MHz lower targets sustains better averages as the gap between them is completely nil. When properly tweaked out and overclocked, the KS's hand-picked binning may come to shine and prevail over this processor pretty much entirely. No DLVR, no improved IMC, no physical changes. At least it's cheaper, I guess. What a disappointment.

AMD, this is the time to strike. Don't fumble this, it's a rare chance.



Satisfy shareholders and avoid having to tell them that they don't have a product to ship this year.
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Zen 5 isn't expected to be available before next year. Since we don't have any idea of even which quarter it will be launched in, Intel has time to get its ducks in a row and get Arrow Lake out in time to combat Zen 5. If they don't, then going by the past, Zen 5 is likely to easily beat the 14th Gen parts.
 
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