EK-Quantum Delta² TEC Now Supports 14th Gen Intel Core CPUs

[GFreeman]

EK, the leading computer cooling solutions provider, is happy to announce that the latest generation of its TEC solutions - the EK-Quantum Delta² TEC - a CPU water block for extreme cooling made in collaboration with Intel, is now unlocked for the 14th generation of Intel Core desktop CPUs. EK is thankful to Intel for collaborating to bring this extreme cooling technology to the market.

EK is now taking over and continuing support for the 14th generation with the EK Delta² TEC Integrated Intel Cryo Cooling Technology software.



The List of Currently Supported CPUs:

• Intel Core i5-12600K Processor (20M Cache, up to 4.90 GHz)
• Intel Core i5-12600KF Processor (20M Cache, up to 4.90 GHz)
• Intel Core i7-12700K Processor (25M Cache, up to 5.00 GHz)
• Intel Core i7-12700KF Processor (25M Cache, up to 5.00 GHz)
• Intel Core i9-12900K Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.20 GHz)
• Intel Core i9-12900KF Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.20 GHz)
• Intel Core i9-12900KS Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.50 GHz)
• Intel Core i5-13600K Processor (24M Cache, up to 5.10 GHz)
• Intel Core i5-13600KF Processor (24M Cache, up to 5.10 GHz)
• Intel Core i7-13700K Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.40 GHz)
• Intel Core i7-13700KF Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.40 GHz)
• Intel Core i9-13900K Processor (36M Cache, up to 5.80 GHz)
• Intel Core i9-13900KF Processor (36M Cache, up to 5.80 GHz)
• Intel Core i9-13900KS Processor (36M Cache, up to 6.00 GHz)
• Intel Core i5-14600K Processor (24M Cache, up to 5.30 GHz)
• Intel Core i5-14600KF Processor (24M Cache, up to 5.30 GHz)
• Intel Core i7-14700K Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.60 GHz)
• Intel Core i7-14700KF Processor (30M Cache, up to 5.60 GHz)
• Intel Core i9-14900K Processor (36M Cache, up to 6.00 GHz)
• Intel Core i9-14900KF Processor (36M Cache, up to 6.00 GHz)

The list of compatible CPUs has been expanded from the initial 12th-gen Alder Lake and 13th-gen Raptor Lake processors to the 14th-gen Intel Core CPUs. The software's newest version can be found HERE.

This water block is based on Peltier (ThermoElectricCooler) technology and can transport heat using the Peltier effect. Inside the TEC plate, the Peltier effect produces a temperature difference between the two sides by flowing a current through it. This means the cold plate, which is in contact with the CPU, can be lowered to sub-ambient temperatures while the liquid cooling loop cools the hot side of the TEC.

It features the signature Quantum design, also featured in Velocity² products, along with the controller unit. The controller is a separate element intended to be mounted on a nearby 120 mm fan mounting inside the case. The control unit can connect and control the loop's pump and fans used to cool the TEC plate, making it even more user-friendly.

It is powered exclusively by the Intel Cryo Cooling Technology, a unique combination of hardware, software, and firmware designed to help unleash extraordinary performance for gamers and those hunting for the highest boost frequencies.

The EK-Quantum Delta² TEC is made for maximum performance and frequencies during heavy loads on a single core or lighter loads across multiple cores. It is not intended for torture and stress test software that applies heavy synthetic loads across all cores, like Prime 95.

The product is built using a purpose-designed large-surface flow-through cooling engine with the Intel Cryo Cooling Technology, bridging aesthetic uniformity and near-silent operation with technological advancements in thermal solutions. The cooler presents an exceptional application of CPU cooling with sub-ambient temperatures by utilizing the Thermoelectric Cooler (TEC) plate while continuously monitoring and adjusting temperatures dynamically. This enables it to achieve an ideal operating environment for sustained gaming performance.

Availability and Pricing
The EK-Quantum Delta² TEC is available for order through the EK Webshop and Partner Reseller Network. The EK-Quantum Delta² TEC D-RGB - Full Nickel has a €572.90 suggested retail price (MSRP), VAT included.

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[besthijacker]

Holy batman the price on this.

 

[jallenlabs]

This is way too expensive. I have the coolermaster subzero and its great for what it is (and what I paid for it -$120 US). Sorry EK, adding a TEC shouldn't add 400 bucks to the cost of the block.

 

[NHBMMA]

This is great news, I saw this yesterday and posted on Reddit. Better late than never, props to EK doing this while Intel bailed out.

This is way too expensive. I have the coolermaster subzero and its great for what it is (and what I paid for it -$120 US). Sorry EK, adding a TEC shouldn't add 400 bucks to the cost of the block.

They go on sale from time to time for $400 US

 

[HBSound]

Now, did not Intell just put out a post sharing they are not going to support TEC anymore?

Intel Shuts Down its Cryo Cooling Technology Development

According to @momomo_us, Intel has discontinued its Cryo Cooling Technology as of July 1, 2023, marking the end of one of the tech industry's few sub-ambient cooling options. The technology, which could chill CPUs to 0 degrees Celsius to enhance performance, accompanied Intel's processors from...

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This is EK's way of saving the items on the shelf. I like EK and really considered this, too.

If you take this route on the CPU, can you also do direct die?

 

[NHBMMA]

Now, did not Intell just put out a post sharing they are not going to support TEC anymore?

Intel Shuts Down its Cryo Cooling Technology Development

According to @momomo_us, Intel has discontinued its Cryo Cooling Technology as of July 1, 2023, marking the end of one of the tech industry's few sub-ambient cooling options. The technology, which could chill CPUs to 0 degrees Celsius to enhance performance, accompanied Intel's processors from...

www.techpowerup.com

This is EK's way of saving the items on the shelf. I like EK and really considered this, too.

If you take this route on the CPU, can you also do direct die?

Direct die is possible as this is also a Velocity² cooling block. You do not need to do direct die with this block, as direct die would never give you the decreased temps that you get by using the Delta2 TEC. Also no need to increase CPU voltages to achieve over clocks using the Delta 2 TEC, way safer and in my opinion better. Look up this Delta 2 TEC video on youtube (AMD Cant COMPETE Against This...) Watch the end part (he trashes it at first) where he realizes the power of the Delta 2 TEC.

 

[HBSound]

Direct die is possible as this is also a Velocity² cooling block. You do not need to do direct die with this block, as direct die would never give you the decreased temps that you get by using the Delta2 TEC. Also no need to increase CPU voltages to achieve over clocks using the Delta 2 TEC, way safer and in my opinion better. Look up this Delta 2 TEC video on youtube (AMD Cant COMPETE Against This...) Watch the end part (he trashes it at first) where he realizes the power of the Delta 2 TEC.

Do you have a link for the video?

Using something like this would allow me not to use the direct die, but I now have to find a space for that controller in an ITX case. MMMM

 

[TechLurker]

They should expand compatibility with AMD, more for the sake of covering more bases than anything. But I guess part of the issue is any remaining proprietary, Intel-specific elements that wouldn't work on AMD.

 

[NHBMMA]

Do you have a link for the video?

Using something like this would allow me not to use the direct die, but I now have to find a space for that controller in an ITX case. MMMM

He trashes it at first......then he gets it to work (watch at minute 17 and beyond) blowing away any other over clocking method, water block solution and without frying your CPU having to increase voltages like all these other methods require. A 210 watt limit is irreverent for gamers using this for single thread usages, frankly all the bashing when this came out is uninformed internet post. Who cares if 210 watts is the limit (if your a gamer gaming) when your CPU temps are sub ambient!

And I bet if your going direct die you also plan on increasing CPU voltage? You don't need to using the Delta2 TEC and you don't have to delid your cpu which you can easily ruin your cpu as well fry it pumping more voltage to it for increased CPU frequency.

He even points out direct die uses way more voltage and in effect is killing your cpu, Delta2 TEC is the better option.

 

[HBSound]

He trashes it at first......then he gets it to work (watch at minute 17 and beyond) blowing away any other over clocking method, water block solution and without frying your CPU having to increase voltages like all these other methods require. A 210 watt limit is irreverent for gamers using this for single thread usages, frankly all the bashing when this came out is uninformed internet post. Who cares if 210 watts is the limit (if your a gamer gaming) when your CPU temps are sub ambient!

And I bet if your going direct die you also plan on increasing CPU voltage? You don't need to using the Delta2 TEC and you don't have to delid your cpu which you can easily ruin your cpu as well fry it pumping more voltage to it for increased CPU frequency.

He even points out direct die uses way more voltage and in effect is killing your cpu, Delta2 TEC is the better option.

Thank you - I will check this out.

Question. What is Direct Die is used with the TEC block, but you do not do any voltage adjustment. To take advantage of now, the CPU does not have a direct die contact. And allow the Delta2 TEC to strictly do its job. That could offer a little better cooling too - right?

 

[NHBMMA]

Thank you - I will check this out.

Question. What is Direct Die is used with the TEC block, but you do not do any voltage adjustment. To take advantage of now, the CPU does not have a direct die contact. And allow the Delta2 TEC to strictly do its job. That could offer a little better cooling too - right?

Using the Delta2 TEC doesn't require a cpu delid (removal of the CPU IHS - integrated heat shield). You do not need to adjust CPU voltage to over clock with the Delta 2 TEC just leave the CPU at stock voltage and adjust in windows without going into BIOS by using Intel's extreme over clocking tool to adjust frequency.

The whole point of direct die is lowering your cpu temps to then increase cpu voltage which then (hopefully) will increase CPU speed for gaming gaining FPS (FRAMES PER SECOND).

The Delta2 TEC has a control unit which adjust as needed your CPU temps to keep it from over heating.

Forget direct die completely if you buy the Delta2 TEC.

 

[Deleted member 177333]

This is pretty cool tech. Next time I upgrade my block I will look into this. Price is pretty high, but it's also niche and very neat the way they have the gear insulated to prevent condensation while ensuring the end user doesn't have to worry about putting dielectric grease all over the board, lol.

 

[HBSound]

Using the Delta2 TEC doesn't require a cpu delid (removal of the CPU IHS - integrated heat shield). You do not need to adjust CPU voltage to over clock with the Delta 2 TEC just leave the CPU at stock voltage and adjust in windows without going into BIOS by using Intel's extreme over clocking tool to adjust frequency.

The whole point of direct die is lowering your cpu temps to then increase cpu voltage which then (hopefully) will increase CPU speed for gaming gaining FPS (FRAMES PER SECOND).

The Delta2 TEC has a control unit which adjust as needed your CPU temps to keep it from over heating.

Forget direct die completely if you buy the Delta2 TEC.

I got you and that make sense.
Question - I am curious. Does Intel in the software keep you from using all cores maxed out? Once you slap on this EK Block? Now you cant take advantage of using all the cores at the same time. Now I Am not runing a render farm or etc, but I am curious does this Intel software place limitations on what you can and not do.

 

[NHBMMA]

I got you and that make sense.
Question - I am curious. Does Intel in the software keep you from using all cores maxed out? Once you slap on this EK Block? Now you cant take advantage of using all the cores at the same time. Now I Am not runing a render farm or etc, but I am curious does this Intel software place limitations on what you can and not do.

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You can run all core as Frame Chaser showed in his video using Intel's Extreme over clocking utility. If you notice he was tweaking all performance cores inside windows using Intel's Extreme over clocking utility.

 

[HBSound]

You can run all core as Frame Chaser showed in his video using Intel's Extreme over clocking utility. If you notice he was tweaking all performance cores inside windows using Intel's Extreme over clocking utility.

Thank you. I will check out the video.

 

[NHBMMA]

This is pretty cool tech. Next time I upgrade my block I will look into this. Price is pretty high, but it's also niche and very neat the way they have the gear insulated to prevent condensation while ensuring the end user doesn't have to worry about putting dielectric grease all over the board, lol.

Bingo! None of the risk and mess. The initial reviews bashing the 210 watt limit is ridiculous, your not going to hit 210 watts using this for single thread gaming because your cpu temps are sub ambient.

Lets be honest the complaints early on was people wanting to use this running bench mark software, PRIME 95 etc. NOBODY runs benchmark software all day every day!

So ask your self why they are most likely running these kinds of benchmarks? Most of these guys are going to be gamers. They are doing it trying to find stability to ultimately overclock their system and over clock their system with traditional water block or other cooling methods never getting close to the lower temps or wattage the Delta2 TEC provides.

Frame Chaser showed heavy gaming load with Call of Duty didn't hit 200 watts and the limit is 210 watts. If you need to run an application like updating game shaders etc temporarily
that pushes higher wattage than 210 watts just use Intel Tuning utility to dial down the frequency to the all core performance cores and go run/install your shaders then crank it back up.

Done.

 

[HBSound]

He trashes it at first......then he gets it to work (watch at minute 17 and beyond) blowing away any other over clocking method, water block solution and without frying your CPU having to increase voltages like all these other methods require. A 210 watt limit is irreverent for gamers using this for single thread usages, frankly all the bashing when this came out is uninformed internet post. Who cares if 210 watts is the limit (if your a gamer gaming) when your CPU temps are sub ambient!

And I bet if your going direct die you also plan on increasing CPU voltage? You don't need to using the Delta2 TEC and you don't have to delid your cpu which you can easily ruin your cpu as well fry it pumping more voltage to it for increased CPU frequency.

He even points out direct die uses way more voltage and in effect is killing your cpu, Delta2 TEC is the better option.

Thank you for sharing the video. I took some time to watch it. However, I noticed that the person in the video skipped over a lot of information while setting up the Delta cooler. Furthermore, he mentioned that he had previously used a direct-die Intel processor on the motherboard and packed out the setup, which made it difficult to understand if he had attached the Delta cooler to a direct-die kit as well. According to EK and others, this practice is not recommended, and due to the cooler, it is pointless.

From the video, I am not sure if the person wants to hate the Delta cooler or enjoys it based on his past experience with a similar kind of suit. Personally, I think he never set it up in a way that would produce good results. He just kept trying different things until something seemed to work.

He did mention that he overclocked his RAM and CPU before installing this unit and said that it should be done before installation, but he never explained why. As far as I understand, the Delta product is meant to overclock the CPU.

Even though I like what this product has to offer, the video does not provide a definitive answer on what the product does and how it works. I am not sure if he used the actual Intel software shown on the left side of the screen, but it would have been nice to see how it looks and works. From my point of view, it seemed as if he kept doing everything he could to keep it from working right until the very end when he got some halfway-decent results.

Thank you again for sharing the video. Based on that video, I would have to do my very own homework on the Delta cooler - just to figure it out.

Thank you

 

[JoeTheDestroyer]

Maximum power draw (unregulated mode): 210W

Understand, the number above is just the TEC element. That is, it is in addition to the heat from your cpu, you pay for that extra power and your cooling loop has to dissipate it.

Same old problem as always with Peltier/TEC: horrifyingly energy inefficient.

 

[HBSound]

As I dug deeper into researching this product, I found out that the controller can only run a maximum of four fans from a single fan output. However, the case I have comes with six fans. According to EK, I can attach four fans to the controller, but I would have to find another way to operate the remaining two fans. I am thinking of connecting those two fans to the motherboard, but the question is, how do I sync them with the fans attached to the controller?

To address this issue, I reached out to Intel to see how the fan curve is set up in their software. My aim is to duplicate it in another software/Bios. Can I see the fan curve in the software so that I can replicate it?