Used quadro worth it?

[PLAfiller]

Greetings all,

been contemplating getting a used Quadro RTX 4000. Currently using FreeCAD+ Deskproto+Cura with eventual switch to Alibre Design for the CAD part. Most videos and discussions focus heavily on a brand new quadro that is 2x-3x...etc times the price of a GeForce card. Hands down that is a different scenario.

The reality is a used RTX4000 ranges now €200-€300 at the moment, which is the price of a used RTX3070 in my region. My resolution is 2560x1080 + two more 1080p screens and I am doing simple stuff. It feels like it doesn't really matter that much. Which one should I get used: RTX3070 or the RTX4000?

Before you ask, I think FreeCAD is CPU bound and not GPU bound, I cannot say if it utilizes OpenGL/CL or DirectX. Before you ask again, yeah idea is to get some paid work done, not just faffing around, so stability is kind of important. I know a used quadro doesn't have active support, but the card was once went for this thing, so it has had stuff sorted out at one point or another.

Anyhow, appreciated any words of wisdom.

 

[Vya Domus]

Don't see any point in buying it, the 3070 will be significantly faster in anything. I don't know how one could evaluate stability, there's probably no difference whatsoever.

I suspect the only reason to buy a quadro at this performance level is for the supposedly better support but since this isn't the case it's completely pointless.

 

[Ruru]

I'd get a Quadro only if I'd use some professional software which would benefit from it.

 

[Assimilator]

FreeCAD doesn't support any sort of GPU acceleration so the answer is a resounding no.

 

[bonehead123]

FreeCAD doesn't support any sort of GPU acceleration so the answer is a resounding no.

^^THIS^^

Without the GPU acceleration capability, it won't matter much which card you have or get....

Been there, done that.... my company gets the top tier GPU's from each generation (A6000's most recently), since we use most of the Autodesk apps, Maya, Solidworks, BlueBeam etc, all of which benefit from the acceleration....

 

[AleXXX666]

Greetings all,

been contemplating getting a used Quadro RTX 4000. Currently using FreeCAD+ Deskproto+Cura with eventual switch to Alibre Design for the CAD part. Most videos and discussions focus heavily on a brand new quadro that is 2x-3x...etc times the price of a GeForce card. Hands down that is a different scenario.

The reality is a used RTX4000 ranges now €200-€300 at the moment, which is the price of a used RTX3070 in my region. My resolution is 2560x1080 + two more 1080p screens and I am doing simple stuff. It feels like it doesn't really matter that much. Which one should I get used: RTX3070 or the RTX4000?

Before you ask, I think FreeCAD is CPU bound and not GPU bound, I cannot say if it utilizes OpenGL/CL or DirectX. Before you ask again, yeah idea is to get some paid work done, not just faffing around, so stability is kind of important. I know a used quadro doesn't have active support, but the card was once went for this thing, so it has had stuff sorted out at one point or another.

Anyhow, appreciated any words of wisdom.

I have old Quadro K4000, it's "gaming" possibilities is "slightly better than GT1030", but it's bulletproof HP OEM with a blower that doesn't gave a sh about being run hot full of dust. Most of RTX card would die from that torture, lmfao. If you are into CAD too, I'd reco getting Quadro over plain geforce.

 

[dgianstefani]

I have built with a PNY Quadro RTX 4000 before, good card.

But no need if your work is not GPU accelerated.

 

[PLAfiller]

I think I am just gonna wait and see how things pan out. My MSI RX5700XT Gaming X seems plenty as is. Got it used may be a year back for €140. Been a fantastic card at 1080p. What I will do is, upgrade the CPU a bit first as it tends to go 100% with high poly models. May be an i7-10700 or i9-10900, whatever comes around the corner and then we will see about the GPU.

 

[Arco]

I think I am just gonna wait and see how things pan out. My MSI RX5700XT Gaming X seems plenty as is. Got it used may be a year back for €140. Been a fantastic card at 1080p. What I will do is, upgrade the CPU a bit first as it tends to go 100% with high poly models. May be an i7-10700 or i9-10900, whatever comes around the corner and then we will see about the GPU.

You might want to get some cheap used 12th gen mobo+cpu+ram combo?

 

[PLAfiller]

You might want to get some cheap used 12th gen mobo+cpu+ram combo?

Don't want to steer the thread too off topic, as people will be looking for a discussion on whether used quadros are worth it, but I had to make that choice last year when I ditched my Kaby lake system. There weren't any affordable for me options, so I got a new MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus board and an I5-10400 and re-used everything else from my PC. When I sold off the Kaby lake mobo+CPU, the jump from 7th to 10th gen Intel cost me something like a hundred euros for a 3 generation leap. I completely understand you, but machine works fine, so I will hold onto it for the time being.

.....once we know more about the GTA 6 system requirements....

RLY? that's the driving force for the upgrade Then my pick up would be Homeworld 3 if it releases next Monday at all.

Anyhow, to sum up I'd say if money is not urgent and you get a really good deal on a quadro I would give it a go, just to see what is like. Otherwise for a home contractor, unless you have:
- 10 bit display
- used programs are ICV certified and accelerated by the Quadro
- actually making money out of it
- running a PLEX accelerated server on a low-end quadro

then you don't need a used quadro.

 

[bonehead123]

I'm still using my RTX 2070 Super, now with a i7 12700K though, probably an Arrow Lake platform upgrade this year and upgrading the GPU once we know more about the GTA 6 system requirements....

For now I can still play all my games @ 1440p.

Yea, OK, go ahead, just derail the thread by ignoring the OP's original focus (CAD/production work) and interjecting some irrelevant gammr factoids....I'm guessin you just couldn't help yourself huh ?

 

[QuietBob]

FreeCAD requires an OpenGL 3.3 compatible GPU for optimal performance. OpenGL 4.0 if you want to use RT.
DeskProto only requires OpenGL 2.1.
An OpenGL 4.1 compatible card is recommended for Cura.
Alibre Design needs DX11 support, with 6 GB VRAM for 4K resolution.

Your current 5700XT is more than enough for the software you're using. No point in replacing it with a Quadro RTX4000, which actually has lower performance.

 

[Arco]

Don't want to steer the thread too off topic, as people will be looking for a discussion on whether used quadros are worth it, but I had to make that choice last year when I ditched my Kaby lake system. There weren't any affordable for me options, so I got a new MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus board and an I5-10400 and re-used everything else from my PC. When I sold off the Kaby lake mobo+CPU, the jump from 7th to 10th gen Intel cost me something like a hundred euros for a 3 generation leap. I completely understand you, but machine works fine, so I will hold onto it for the time being.

Just some upgrade options for your CPU.

I agree with that a Quadro will not be worth it if the work is only CPU-Accelerated.

 

[lexluthermiester]

been contemplating getting a used Quadro RTX 4000. Currently using FreeCAD+ Deskproto+Cura with eventual switch to Alibre Design for the CAD part. Most videos and discussions focus heavily on a brand new quadro that is 2x-3x...etc times the price of a GeForce card. Hands down that is a different scenario.

If your software doesn't specifically require the Quadro(and thus the drivers that have specific functionality), go with a regular consumer level card.