14900k or 14700k | Aircooling | Noctua U14S | Adobe Premiere Pro?

[twicksisted]

Can the Noctua U14S cool the 14900K or 14700K while working 4K HQ footage in Adobe Premiere Pro?

I work with multiple streams of 4K60 footage in Adobe Premiere Pro for my YouTube channel.

My current CPU is 5 gens old (Intel 9700k, NV 4070, SATA SSD's) and while I have some extra cash I would like to upgrade.

I have an old Noctua U14s I would like to reuse from when i built this system in 2020...

According to Noctuas websites CPU compatibility list, it will cool the 14900 / 14700 well

But I've read posts online about how the 14th gen runs so hot that an air cooler cant dissipate 300+watts

What do you guys think?


Can the Noctua U14S cool the 14900K or 14700K while working 4K HQ footage in Adobe Premiere Pro?

 

[P4-630]

Noctua says so:

NH-U14S | Cooler Compatibility | Noctua Compatibility Centre

ncc.noctua.at

 

[Onasi]

It can cool it sufficiently to avoid throttling if we are talking base Intel spec, sure. But it will run fairly hot. Whether or not that is acceptable to you is personal decision.
I mean, we have test by W1zz with this exact cooler, so..,

 

[Dr. Dro]

It'll be fine, don't worry about >100 temps, W1zz's tests are to be considered what-if scenarios because he disabled both the power limits and the thermal protection in one go to get those results (performance no matter what, even at the cost of danger to the hardware). I run my 13900KS with a very slight undervolt (-0.050 offset on all domains) and my NH-D15S (with the additional fan at 1800 RPM) doesn't get overwhelmed until the CPU is consistently drawing >320 W.

 

[twicksisted]

OK thanks for your advice... another thing to mention is that I live on a farm in Central Portugal where the summer temperatures exceed 40c (105F) for a few months each year.
I recently installed air-conditioning and will be using it on the hottest days during the summer... but my room when editing in summer is pretty hot.

Googling this CPU and aircooling gave me a lot of mixed results,and i thought id ask the question here because googles results were pretty insane

 

[Bobaganoosh]

Just make sure that with either one of those CPUs, you plug in a reasonable PL1/PL2 limit in the BIOS as most BIOS's will default to 4095W or something practically unlimited and it will peg your CPU to thermal throttling. If you set something more reasonable (like 253W-280W range for those two CPUs), it will down-clock if it gets too hot, but you won't be blowing it up or running right against the wall with it. There are intel recommendations out there at this point you can google, but I don't have the link and I have to go (sorry!). looking at the charts above, this is basically the difference between the "stock" testing and the "power limits removed".

 

[Outback Bronze]

But I've read posts online about how the 14th gen runs so hot that an air cooler cant dissipate 300+watts

You might run into some CPU thermal throttling especially in the summertime if you allow 300W+ in your mobo bios with this type of HSF.

like 253W-280W

This is the ticket right here. Test a few PL limits that suits your needs. Say anywhere from between 150w - 275w and you should find some joy with temps and no thermal throttling that you should be happy with.

These PL limits can always be changed depending on climate too, so you might be keen on setting a higher PL limit in winter and a lower one for the summer. Have fun

 

[P4-630]

My current CPU is 5 gens old (Intel 9700k, NV 4070, SATA SSD's) and while I have some extra cash I would like to upgrade.

Since you need a complete platform upgrade, you could also wait till October this year, around then next gen intel Arrow Lake CPU's come out.

 

[ir_cow]

Yes. Just put a power limit on the CPU, like 285W or so.

 

[Why_Me]

Can the Noctua U14S cool the 14900K or 14700K while working 4K HQ footage in Adobe Premiere Pro?

I work with multiple streams of 4K60 footage in Adobe Premiere Pro for my YouTube channel.

My current CPU is 5 gens old (Intel 9700k, NV 4070, SATA SSD's) and while I have some extra cash I would like to upgrade.

I have an old Noctua U14s I would like to reuse from when i built this system in 2020...

According to Noctuas websites CPU compatibility list, it will cool the 14900 / 14700 well

But I've read posts online about how the 14th gen runs so hot that an air cooler cant dissipate 300+watts

What do you guys think?


Can the Noctua U14S cool the 14900K or 14700K while working 4K HQ footage in Adobe Premiere Pro?

Another option is the i7 14700 (locked cpu).

https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/7rXV3C/intel-core-i7-14700-21-ghz-20-core-processor-bx8071514700

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-33m-cache-up-to-5-40-ghz/specifications.html
Maximum Turbo Power: 219W

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[freeagent]

Another option is the i7 14700 (locked cpu).

Coming from a guy who is running a locked chip right now.. (58X3D)

Eww

But 220w..

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Coming from a guy who is running a locked chip right now.. (58X3D)

Eww

But 220w..

locked cpus are for suckas..... Like us lmao.

 

[Why_Me]

Coming from a guy who is running a locked chip right now.. (58X3D)

Eww

But 220w..

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[oxrufiioxo]

I mean if it was me I would just get the 14900K it is not like you can't upgrade you cooler later I would never buy a worse CPU just for cooling purposes a tweaked down 14900K will still be faster than a 14700K.

That being said both are awesome CPU and I am sure you'd be happy with either with the i9 you just get more cache and 4 more ecores otherwise in gaming it's only a slight hit with the i7, If you do get the i9 there will be 0 chance of fomo and there won't really be a better cpu ever on the platform.

Your ambient is high but that is a problem that can be fixed with AC and I doubt thermally the i9 is that much worse in the same environment as the i7 unless hammering it with 100% loads constantly.

 

[JustBenching]

Can the Noctua U14S cool the 14900K or 14700K while working 4K HQ footage in Adobe Premiere Pro?

I work with multiple streams of 4K60 footage in Adobe Premiere Pro for my YouTube channel.

My current CPU is 5 gens old (Intel 9700k, NV 4070, SATA SSD's) and while I have some extra cash I would like to upgrade.

I have an old Noctua U14s I would like to reuse from when i built this system in 2020...

According to Noctuas websites CPU compatibility list, it will cool the 14900 / 14700 well

But I've read posts online about how the 14th gen runs so hot that an air cooler cant dissipate 300+watts

What do you guys think?


Can the Noctua U14S cool the 14900K or 14700K while working 4K HQ footage in Adobe Premiere Pro?

The 14900k stock out of the box yes, it runs hot. It doesn't matter if you have a single tower air cooler or a 420 AIO, it will still throttle - because the stock settings are basically allowing it to draw as much power as possible until it hits 100c. That of course only applies to heavy multithreaded workloads - your workloads aren't like that.

Still I'd recommend spending a few minutes in the bios to fix the issue. The easier way to stop the CPU from hitting 100c is to just lower the temperature limit, I have mine at 85c. Meaning the CPU will try to run as fast as possible until it hits 85c. You can also try locking the power limit but if you just do the above it's not really needed

 

[twicksisted]

Thanks for all the replies guys! I think 14900k is the way forward... Im sure ill e ack again soon to ask how to limit this chip in whatever bios of whatever motherboard i buy later

Years ago i was trying to overclock... now it seems im going to underclock!

 

[AleXXX666]

Thanks for all the replies guys! I think 14900k is the way forward... Im sure ill e ack again soon to ask how to limit this chip in whatever bios of whatever motherboard i buy later

Years ago i was trying to overclock... now it seems im going to underclock!

get 14700 plain and chill out lol

 

[Aken Bosch]

Can the Noctua U14S cool the 14900K or 14700K while working 4K HQ footage in Adobe Premiere Pro?
Get a Ryzen 7950X if you're into productivity (not so sure how that crap software is scaling though, I didn't check that in years). Or even a 7900X, suit yourself.
P.S. Yes, in know that he was asking about the cooler. Well, he mentioned 2 CPU's, which means he/she didn't bought it yet.
My 2c.

 

[ir_cow]

AMD 7950X will sure be close in perf and less power draw for video work.

 

[AleXXX666]

I mean if it was me I would just get the 14900K it is not like you can't upgrade you cooler later I would never buy a worse CPU just for cooling purposes a tweaked down 14900K will still be faster than a 14700K.

That being said both are awesome CPU and I am sure you'd be happy with either with the i9 you just get more cache and 4 more ecores otherwise in gaming it's only a slight hit with the i7, If you do get the i9 there will be 0 chance of fomo and there won't really be a better cpu ever on the platform.

Your ambient is high but that is a problem that can be fixed with AC and I doubt thermally the i9 is that much worse in the same environment as the i7 unless hammering it with 100% loads constantly.

Intel i7-14700K vs i9-14900K [cpubenchmark.net] by PassMark Software

~12% margin in MC load for ~32,5% price difference.. it's a sure win win!

Also, if you are into Intel, why won't you look at F-lettered SKU, you don't really need that iGPU for more money, and if someone tell you sh** about "Intel video Quicksync" then just know that Nvidia CUDA will f**k it up.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Intel i7-14700K vs i9-14900K [cpubenchmark.net] by PassMark Software

~12% margin in MC load for ~32,5% price difference.. it's a sure win win!

Also, if you are into Intel, why won't you look at F-lettered SKU, you don't really need that iGPU for more money, and if someone tell you sh** about "Intel video Quicksync" then just know that Nvidia CUDA will f**k it up.

I don't really care about value if the 7950X3D was 12% faster than the 7800X3D in games I would have purchased it instead as well. I've never liked buying a chip with neutered cache from Intel they don't usually age well. I also would never buy an F sku cpu the igpu is valuable for trouble shooting I also somtimes retire then into gpu less systems for browsing/email etc.

I did state he'd likely be happy with either.

 

[AleXXX666]

I don't really care about value if the 7950X3D was 12% faster than the 7800X3D in games I would have purchased it instead as well. I've never liked buying a chip with neutered cache from Intel they don't usually age well. I also would never buy an F sku cpu the igpu is valuable for trouble shooting I also somtimes retire then into gpu less systems for browsing/email etc.

I did state he'd likely be happy with either.

i always was a fan of igpu for "backup" but recently I noticed I wouldn't really use one FOR YEARS so getting some "for future" stuff is like getting more powerful diesel-engine car "just maybe i'd tow something but i don't know when" LOL

 

[Harlow]

Programs such as Premiere Pro use powerful GPUs to shorten rendering times. When running Topaz Video AI on my 7950X with Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black and RTX 3060 (12GB), I often find the GPU is working flat out, whereas the 7950X CPU utilisation is only 70%. A lot depends on the algorithm used by Topaz, e.g. Image Stabilisation results in a different ratio of CPU to GPU usage, when compared to 1080p to 4K Upscaling.

If you intend keeping your existing GPU, use CPUID HWMonitor or similar and check the power dissipated in your 9700K and RTX4070. You may find your CPU is not pushed into thermal throttling at 100°C when running Premiere Pro. A faster CPU like the 13900K should reduce rendering times, but you might find a faster GPU would be equally beneficial.

On really long rendering runs (up to 36 hours), I don't worry too much about saving a few hours, which would happen if I upgraded my 3060. When building my system in Dec. 2022, I did a quick cost analysis and worked out a 3090 would probably finish 3 times faster (according to Puget Systems benchmarks), but cost 6 times the price of my 3060.

 

[jallenlabs]