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Upgrading cooler fans, worth it?

BlaezaLite

BlaezaLite

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System Name AMDWeapon
Processor Ryzen 7 7800X3D -20 CO
Motherboard X670E MSI Tomahawk WiFi
Cooling Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 ARGB with Silverstone Air Blazer 2200rpm fans
Memory G-Skill Trident Z Neo RGB 6000 CL30 32GB@EXPO
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Case Montech 903 MAX AIR
Audio Device(s) SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro Wireless + Wicked Cushions Gel earpads
Power Supply MSI MPG AGF 850 watt gold
Mouse SteelSeries AeroX 5 l Forza Pad Gamesir T7 l Power A OPS V3 for FPS (paddles)
Keyboard SteelSeries Apex 9 TKL with Steelseries B&W pudding caps
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Software Windows 11 Pro 24H2
Benchmark Scores Enough for me
How large is the price difference between 2x TL-K12 and a Phantom Spirit 120 that comes with two fans.
Or would you still want to replace the fans.
 
nomdeplume said:
How large is the price difference between 2x TL-K12 and a Phantom Spirit 120 that comes with two fans.
Or would you still want to replace the fans.
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I'm not bothered by fan noise as I always wear a headset, so faster fans are easier than remounting a cooler, lol. Next to no difference between the two coolers so I figure faster fans might make the difference up.
 
1400 rpm? My shoe would have better case flow XD (kidding!)

I think it would be worth it. Any other fan/s.... :)
 
ShrimpBrime said:
1400 rpm? My shoe would have better case flow XD (kidding!)

I think it would be worth it. Any other fan/s.... :)
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Case Fans are 1400 too, but 4 140's.
Please make suggestions but not delta's. Must have RGB too.
 
I mean… are you actually reaching temperatures that are concerning? If not - what’s the point? The 7800X3D is just the way it is - you wanted it to not reach throttling, but otherwise just leave it alone to do its own thing. Between aggressive boosting, thick IHS and the 3D cache it won’t ever really run as “cool” as you’d think considering power consumption.
 
Onasi said:
I mean… are you actually reaching temperatures that are concerning? If not - what’s the point? The 7800X3D is just the way it is - you wanted it to not reach throttling, but otherwise just leave it alone to do its own thing. Between aggressive boosting, thick IHS and the 3D cache it won’t ever really run as “cool” as you’d think considering power consumption.
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Trying to keep the x3d at maybe 80??? It does hit 89.8 in cinebench with CO-17.
FreedomEclipse said:
Arctic P12 Max (3300rpm) PWM £8.58
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Thats fast but no rgb, damn.
 
Blaeza said:
Case Fans are 1400 too, but 4 140's.
Please make suggestions but not delta's. Must have RGB too.
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I have no suggestions for direct make and models at this time.

But static pressure appeals to me. I keep components cool and care less for the noise to accomplish that. And it seems you know me haha. Love muh Deltas.

Fan tuning. Just get something powerful and tune em. Even Delta fans don't have to be loud either.
 
Blaeza said:
Trying to keep the x3d at maybe 80??? It does hit 89.8 in cinebench with CO-17.
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Cinebench isn’t a realistic load for the most part, unless you’re rendering projects in that or Blender often. And I have heavy doubts that you’d be able to keep it under/at 80 on air in all core workloads like that anyway. 90 degrees isn’t unheard of. Faster fans will help… somewhat. Hell, just re-applying TIM or changing it for a better one might. But I wouldn’t say it’s mandatory - if you’re not seeing any close to TJmax temps in your regular use, actual one, not stress tests - you’re fine. The TA120 is such a cheap and cheerful cooler that swapping fans is kinda a bad value proposition, especially for overpriced RGB ones. Frankly, all the best performing ones won’t have said RGB anyway. You could splurge on a pair of T30s, that WOULD be better, but that would be more than the cooler itself costs. And have no RGB. So, you know, kinda a waste.
 
ShrimpBrime said:
I have no suggestions for direct make and models at this time.

But static pressure appeals to me. I keep components cool and care less for the noise to accomplish that. And it seems you know me haha. Love muh Deltas.

Fan tuning. Just get something powerful and tune em. Even Delta fans don't have to be loud either.
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I only know of delta's via Linus, but they are crazy fast.

I always ask you lot questions due to the sheer combined knowledge you have, where as I get confused in my bios... :D

Onasi said:
Cinebench isn’t a realistic load for the most part, unless you’re rendering projects in that or Blender often. And I have heavy doubts that you’d be able to keep it under/at 80 on air in all core workloads like that anyway. 90 degrees isn’t unheard of. Faster fans will help… somewhat. Hell, just re-applying TIM or changing it for a better one might. But I wouldn’t say it’s mandatory - if you’re not seeing any close to TJmax temps in your regular use, actual one, not stress tests - you’re fine. The TA120 is such a cheap and cheerful cooler that swapping fans is kinda a bad value proposition, especially for overpriced RGB ones. Frankly, all the best performing ones won’t have said RGB anyway. You could splurge on a pair of T30s, that WOULD be better, but that would be more than the cooler itself costs. And have no RGB. So, you know, kinda a waste.
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Hmm, I think I may have a slight addiction to upgrades... My TIM is Aeronaut, so pretty good. I must have my pretty lights now, my Mum would have very much approved.

What do people think of my initial choice in my first post? Decent?
 
@Blaeza Your result would be at best few degrees with large increase of noise you don't care only to some point. 7800X3D's power draw is low, it's heat transfer isn't best, 1400 rpm is already high and likely close to dissipation capabilities of this heatsink. Whatever is here against you ;) I totally wouldn't bother with swapping the fans. If you already tried increasing the case fans speed, try lowering placement of cooler's fans as much as possible. 7900 GRE is powerhungry enough to cook things above and with such cards having possibly much of the cooler fan blowing below heatsink may bring noticeable difference. Sadly PE doesn't leave much space to lower it's fans, so don't expect much, but it's already here and for free ;)

What I talk is something you won't help much with case airflow, so having cooler blowing below heatsink is a must when choosing a cooler in general - man may only benefit or hurt if lacking it.
 
Blaeza said:
For £18, I'm going to get these and see what happens. At the worst, I've got two fans to put at the bottom of my case. Win/Win. :D
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I like some of the features. And the honesty of the company. With oil cooled bearings, they have a 40,000 hour MTBF. Push a max of 93 cfm with reasonable dB. They are programmable RGB or aRGB, is what they call is. Addressable. So that's a good feature to have. I was initially looking for this feature first actually.
 
ShrimpBrime said:
I like some of the features. And the honesty of the company. With oil cooled bearings, they have a 40,000 hour MTBF. Push a max of 93 cfm with reasonable dB. They are programmable RGB or aRGB, is what they call is. Addressable. So that's a good feature to have. I was initially looking for this feature first actually.
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Well you found me a bargain and the first aftermarket cpu cooler I had was Arctic. Thank you! :clap:
 
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