Windows 11 General Discussion

windwhirl · Oct 3, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
It seems microsoft is deliberately discriminating against FireFox.

Works for me, though I am on Nightly's version (basically alpha version Firefox)

Space Lynx · Oct 3, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
Ah, a store app. I don't use the microsoft store.

I looked into this. It seems microsoft is deliberately discriminating against FireFox. Sadly there's no evidence of this yet, but the situational info seem to lean very much in that direction. Not sure what else to tell you. I would recommend Iron( https://www.srware.net/iron/ ) which is a security and privacy focus compiled version of Chromium.

Have you tried ThunderBird( https://www.thunderbird.net/ )?

it's not an issue at all, as I said before I am content just using a different browser for outlook, in this case Vivaldi. it works fine on Vivaldi. still using firefox for everything else

lexluthermiester · Oct 3, 2024

Space Lynx said:
it's not an issue at all, as I said before I am content just using a different browser for outlook, in this case Vivaldi. it works fine on Vivaldi. still using firefox for everything else

Fair enough.

johnspack · Oct 4, 2024

R-T-B said:
Depends on the distro. Most source based distros still let you target hardware all the way back to the original 386, but they aren't near as user friendly. Outside that, some legacy distros probably build their images without POPCNT, but amongst binary distros it is pretty rare.

That's actually an authorized retailer. Got a link? I may take that offer. Hopefully its not some bizarre marketplace situation.

Check this then and see if it's valid: https://www.cdw.com/product/windows-11-iot-enterprise-ltsc-2024-license-1-license/8025005

Launcestonian · Oct 4, 2024

uco73 said:
No 24H2 update on my PC.

+1 but on 3 machines here as well.

Lost_Troll · Oct 4, 2024

Now I know why I do not see the 24H2 update........

Microsoft admits Windows 11 24H2 could play havoc with some online games – and it’s blocked the update for affected PCs

Klemc · Oct 4, 2024

"Lossless Scaling" broken, last time it was NV driver, this time it's MS feature update

Ahhzz · Oct 4, 2024

Ahh. I see Wordpad is being removed so they can charge you for Word instead....

GerKNG · Oct 4, 2024

24H2 is a nightmare.
even more crap bloatware to force remove with third party software, bitlocker is enabled by default with an offline account and then blackmails you into logging in to your M$ account imediately because you will not have access to the bitlocker decryption keys through your account.
my PC feels a lot slower (clean installation 20 minutes ago), the "new" task manager looks bad and bland together with badly rearranged settings like the power settings.
the new 24H2 installer is extremely bad... a blue screen with a white box in the middle where you have to pick your drive to install the OS to. for some reason all drives have another pseudo partition in the list that just says "free space" with a few kilobytes making a 4 drive PC with just one partition each + the USB stick with the installer a 10 item long list with very small text.

Installing 24H2 is literally a blue screen with "Windows installation is running" and a percentage below it cramped in the top left corner. the rest of the screen is completely empty.

i was cautiously optimistic but 24H2 is just way more Microsoft Bullshit all over again.
i genuinely hate it and want to go back to 23H2.

and you can not even customize/remove anything in here anymore! :banghead:

Edit:
My other PC just BSOD bootloop with 24H2...

Klemc · Oct 4, 2024

GerKNG said:
24H2 is a nightmare.
even more crap bloatware to force remove with third party software, bitlocker is enabled by default with an offline account and then blackmails you into logging in to your M$ account imediately because you will not have access to the bitlocker decryption keys through your account.
my PC feels a lot slower (clean installation 20 minutes ago), the "new" task manager looks bad and bland together with badly rearranged settings like the power settings.
the new 24H2 installer is extremely bad... a blue screen with a white box in the middle where you have to pick your drive to install the OS to. for some reason all drives have another pseudo partition in the list that just says "free space" with a few kilobytes making a 4 drive PC with just one partition each + the USB stick with the installer a 10 item long list with very small text.

Installing 24H2 is literally a blue screen with "Windows installation is running" and a percentage below it cramped in the top left corner. the rest of the screen is completely empty.

i was cautiously optimistic but 24H2 is just way more Microsoft Bullshit all over again.
i genuinely hate it and want to go back to 23H2.

and you can not even customize/remove anything in here anymore!
View attachment 365899

Used ADK and removed all listed in my previous answer (appx/feature/packages), no problermo here when Rufus used to skip TPM, but yes, in VM VirtualBox it had Bitlocker big bad boy and i had to mess a lot to disable it btw (a shared hhd)

Anyway, i think the worst of all is WinDefender, ansd iremoved it (LOG), looks like it fixed me not able to use remove safely external disks (was broken even usinf USB safely remove third party tool, that never failed on me):

GitHub - SimonMacer/AnWave: AnWave Personal Development Project - Manage and customize AMD Radeon drivers and more

AnWave Personal Development Project - Manage and customize AMD Radeon drivers and more - SimonMacer/AnWave

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Microsoft Officially drops AC3 (Dolby Digital) Support from W11 24H2

I been having issues with my Plex Media Player lately where audio in EAC3 codec wasn't giving out any sound and it looks like Microsoft has Officially dropped the support from 24H2. A note on AC-3 (“Dolby Digital”) AC-3 is an audio codec that supports multi-channel (“surround sound”) audio...

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How bad, in log this lines, so is it an AV or a gamebar hidden in AV, sure it's strange and i hate the both as much :

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lexluthermiester · Oct 4, 2024

Ahhzz said:
Ahh. I see Wordpad is being removed so they can charge you for Word instead....

Yeah that sucks. WinAeroTweaker can bring it back. Notepad too.

Winaero Tweaker 1.63 is available

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There's also Libre Office.

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theFOoL · Oct 6, 2024

Going to try

Going to use a WIN11ET and transfer some 23H2 to 24H2 just need help what Files

Happening maybe

Onasi · Oct 6, 2024

Again, if your goal is to boot up 24H2 on a CPU lacking POPCNT - not happening.

lexluthermiester · Oct 6, 2024

Onasi said:
Again, if your goal is to boot up 24H2 on a CPU lacking POPCNT - not happening.

No harm in trying. And if he succeeds(even if only partly) it would become something very interesting.

theFOoL · Oct 6, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
No harm in trying. And if he succeeds(even if only partly) it would become something very interesting.

I'm sorry but it Failed. Till M$ rethinks

Onasi · Oct 6, 2024

@theFOoL
It’s not a matter of rethinking. They would have to recompile and somewhat reengineer the entire kernel again. That’s uh… not happening.

@lexluthermiester
Sure, I am not stopping anyone from banging their head against a wall. Just that it’s been known for a while how the new kernel works, that the limitation is not artificial this time and that anyone with a passing understanding of software knows that certain things are just not possible.

lexluthermiester · Oct 6, 2024

Onasi said:
@theFOoL
It’s not a matter of rethinking. They would have to recompile and somewhat reengineer the entire kernel again. That’s uh… not happening.

@lexluthermiester
Sure, I am not stopping anyone from banging their head against a wall. Just that it’s been known for a while how the new kernel works, that the limitation is not artificial this time and that anyone with a passing understanding of software knows that certain things are just not possible.
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I've seen jankier things happen. There's got to be a way to make it work.

theFOoL · Oct 6, 2024

well until Rufus updates again...

Onasi · Oct 6, 2024

@lexluthermiester
Not without access to the source code, no. I am sure I don’t have to explain why this isn’t an option.
I mean, here’s a thread with pretty much all the info one might need information:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/1e6q46g

And, as someone pointed out in comments, with the latest kernel it isn’t just POPCNT. It’s the entire SSE 4.2 instruction set. So… yeah.

R-T-B · Oct 6, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
I've seen jankier things happen. There's has got to be a way to make it work.

You could write a POPCNT (and now I guess SSE4.2) instruction emulator. But short of that, no. And it'd perform like ass anyways.

lexluthermiester · Oct 6, 2024

R-T-B said:
You could write a POPCNT (and now I guess SSE4.2) instruction emulator. But short of that, no.

That's what I was thinking.

R-T-B said:
And it'd perform like ass anyways.

Not necessarily. Add in code to make it run on a second GPU and Bob's your uncle... That gives me an idea. Need to send an email...

R-T-B · Oct 6, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
Not necessarily. Add in code to make it run on a second GPU and Bob's your uncle...

The latency on that would be awful and emulation never really performs excellent.

Plus no way you'll get those facilities at kernel time.

Onasi · Oct 6, 2024

@R-T-B
The emulator will have to somehow engage out of firmware since the boot uses the new instructions (or at least checks for them) too. If something like this would be done “janky” wouldn’t even start to describe it, not to mention it would be a security risk.
It’s easier and saner just to upgrade to a reasonably modern CPU is all I’m saying.

R-T-B · Oct 6, 2024

Onasi said:
@R-T-B
The emulator will have to somehow engage out of firmware since the boot uses the new instructions (or at least checks for them) too. If something like this would be done “janky” wouldn’t even start to describe it, not to mention it would be a security risk.
It’s easier and saner just to upgrade to a reasonably modern CPU is all I’m saying.

Yeah the best way I could see to do it is as an EFI or BIOS level driver (probably injected by a bootloader as a service) providing the additional cpu instructions while actually emulating them. This would probably never jive with secure boot either, but who cares?

If it was just POPCNT it might be doable, but all of SSE4.2? I would not hold my breath.

Also if we are really talking BIOS era coding of the core 2 stuff... hello undocumented nightmare town.

lexluthermiester · Oct 6, 2024

Onasi said:
@R-T-B
The emulator will have to somehow engage out of firmware since the boot uses the new instructions (or at least checks for them) too. If something like this would be done “janky” wouldn’t even start to describe it, not to mention it would be a security risk.
It’s easier and saner just to upgrade to a reasonably modern CPU is all I’m saying.

No one is suggesting something like this be run as a daily driver. This is just tinkering for the fun of it. @theFOoL is just playing around for giggles. He has newer hardware to run on and has Win10LTSC as a backup.

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