RTX 5090 ridiculous price!

[Intervention]

This is the retail price in Norway for the RTX 5090 and 5080. This is in Norwegian kroner. So basically, almost $2900, and $1800. These are not placeholder prices. This is the actual release price, going by previous releases on this site, such as when the 4090 and 4080 were released. We get the shaft

 

[Macro Device]

These are likely to be placeholders and subject to change when these GPUs are officially released. Be patient and wait another couple weeks.

 

[N/A]

Not that outlandish, $999 msrp turns into $1186 with Gigabyte premium model plus reseller tax, 1483 with 25% VAT included.

Windforce SFF is the one closest to MSRP but hardest to find.

 

[Chrispy_]

This is the retail price in Norway for the RTX 5090 and 5080. This is in Norwegian kroner. So basically, almost $2900, and $1800. These are not placeholder prices. This is the actual release price, going by previous releases on this site, such as when the 4090 and 4080 were released. We get the shaft

I'm not sure why anyone is surprised.

The 4090 has been selling for 40-50% more than its MSRP for ages.
So the $1999 MSRP of the 5090 was expected to be $2800-3000 all along.

Supply and demand is how the market works, and those rules have been ironclad since long before any of us were born.

 

[evernessince]

I'm not sure why anyone is surprised.

The 4090 has been selling for 40-50% more than its MSRP for ages.
So the $1999 MSRP of the 5090 was expected to be $2800-3000 all along.

Supply and demand is how the market works, and those rules have been ironclad since long before any of us were born.

The 4090 has an MSRP of $1,600 and it's inflated street price is $2,000.

That's 25% above MSRP, not 40-50%.

 

[Macro Device]

street price is $2,000.

Not everywhere. In Russia, for example, the cheapest BNIB 4090 goes for 2620 USD (VAT included).

 

[inquisitor1]

>ridiculous price!


hahahaha lauging my asz off. this is the 3rd gen like this and it still hasnt sunk in? youre so surprised of the prices? what did you think 5090 would sell for $1000 ? hahaha

when covid was in full force and 30 series were out, was that not enough to sink in what will happen in the future? naive people

 

[Dahita]

Not that outlandish, $999 msrp turns into $1186 with Gigabyte premium model plus reseller tax, 1483 with 25% VAT included.

Windforce SFF is the one closest to MSRP but hardest to find.

Really? Wait... no, really?!

 

[N/A]

Really? Wait... no, really?!

You mean that's listed without VAT. the laws must be different there.

 

[Dahita]

You mean that's listed without VAT. the laws must be different there.

$999 MSRP doubled because of 25% VAT and a custom fan design? Is this real life?

 

[evernessince]

Not everywhere. In Russia, for example, the cheapest BNIB 4090 goes for 2620 USD (VAT included).
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I'm honestly surprised it's not more expensive is Russia. That's dead on with equivalent models in Europe: https://geizhals.eu/?fs=rtx+4090&hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=eu&hloc=pl&hloc=uk

A lot of that pricing increase is due to the production stop though.

 

[Sound_Card]

This is the retail price in Norway for the RTX 5090 and 5080. This is in Norwegian kroner. So basically, almost $2900, and $1800. These are not placeholder prices. This is the actual release price, going by previous releases on this site, such as when the 4090 and 4080 were released. We get the shaft

Still better than using FSR and you get real RT. So I don't know why you are complaining.

 

[evernessince]

Still better than using FSR and you get real RT. So I don't know why you are complaining.

You can use DLSS with any Nvidia card so I'm not sure how that would be a justification for the prices OP cited.

real RT? RT is going to look similar regardless of whether you are using AMD or Nvidia so long as the game settings are the same. Honestly if AMD did come up with a way to "fake" RT for higher performance that would be great as it would enable people with lower end cards to actually partake. That would be a card seller for sure.

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

The 4090 has an MSRP of $1,600 and it's inflated street price is $2,000.

That's 25% above MSRP, not 40-50%.

No, Nvidia pushed up the RTX 4090 MSRP to $1,999 a while ago.
This was because of "limited availability"

 

[evernessince]

No, Nvidia pushed up the RTX 4090 MSRP to $1,999 a while ago.
This was because of "limited availability"

Source? I believe you are conflating stopping production with any official price increase. There is no "limited availability", Nvidia said they were and have stopped production.

 

[mate123]

The cheapest 4090 is currently ~2500$ here with 27% vat, so I expect the 5090 to start north of 3000$ here...

 

[Chrispy_]

The 4090 has an MSRP of $1,600 and it's inflated street price is $2,000.

That's 25% above MSRP, not 40-50%.

Amazon price trackers seem to suggest $2300 is the cheapest you'll find one in stock in the US, and it's been that way since last summer at least.

Over here they're out of stock entirely. Refurbs for nearly £2000 ($2400) and no new stock since the last of the £2200 offerings dried up, and £2000-2200 has been the going rate for several months now.

 

[Zach_01]

Plenty of 4090 listings here at price range of 2300~4000€.
At some point you could find some variants from ~1900€ but most of them were never under 2100~2200€

I don’t expect to see 5090s below 2600-2700€ and I think I’m optimistic.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I feel like I got a bargain at 1700 for my 4090... not long after they shot up to 2000-2200 and have hovered around that since. This was back in Feb 2023 so basically two years ago...

 

[Dr. Dro]

Given the technology that goes in this card, I do not believe the prices are entirely unreasonable, however high they may be.

But here's the thing: you don't need a 5090 to have fun. You can perfectly buy a lower end model, or if you're open to accepting its flaws, AMD's competing product. You can also opt to snag an earlier generation card from someone upgrading, and there is absolutely no shame in that. If for some reason I'm unable to get a 5090... 5080 it will be, no use losing sleep over it.

29k DKK is about 24k BRL. It's the absolute worst case forecast I have for prices here in my country which has a similar tax load. I still think it will end up slightly below that, however.

 

[Klemc]

You can use DLSS with any Nvidia card so I'm not sure how that would be a justification for the prices OP cited.

real RT? RT is going to look similar regardless of whether you are using AMD or Nvidia so long as the game settings are the same. Honestly if AMD did come up with a way to "fake" RT for higher performance that would be great as it would enable people with lower end cards to actually partake. That would be a card seller for sure.

And use DLSS in any even unsupported game too, from now on (DLSS4) next driver :

In 571.86 videodriver new transformer model, which works only on RTX video cards. Also DLSS now can be used in all games where there is no official support DLSS. I think Nvidia programmers changed the video driver core itself to a new one, compatible only with RTX video cards.

 

[Dr. Dro]

And use DLSS in any even unsupported game too, from now on (DLSS4) next driver :

I wouldn't be surprised if the Release 570 driver dropped support for pre-RTX video cards, with the exception maybe of Volta (Titan V) and small Turing (GTX 16 series), the RTX 20 series GPUs are now 7 years old, and Pascal is 9 years old. The current driver branch supports as far as Maxwell 1, the 750 Ti is now 11 years old.

Regardless this isn't new, DLSS requires a GeForce RTX card to begin with. It doesn't work on earlier models, and this includes even DLSS 1.0 from way back.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Given the technology that goes in this card, I do not believe the prices are entirely unreasonable, however high they may be.

But here's the thing: you don't need a 5090 to have fun. You can perfectly buy a lower end model, or if you're open to accepting its flaws, AMD's competing product. You can also opt to snag an earlier generation card from someone upgrading, and there is absolutely no shame in that. If for some reason I'm unable to get a 5090... 5080 it will be, no use losing sleep over it.

The price is just a consequence of Nvidia trying to squeeze 4N for every last drop they can to get a marginal uplift over the 4090. That combined with 32GB equals their min asking price of $2000...

Price to performance likely will be the same or worse vs 2 years ago though and that still kinda sucks.

 

[Dr. Dro]

The price is just a consequence of Nvidia trying to squeeze 4N for every last drop they can to get a marginal uplift over the 4090. That combined with 32GB equals their min asking price of $2000...

Price to performance likely will be the same or worse vs 2 years ago though and that still kinda sucks.

It is at least contradictive to opt into purchasing a halo-tier product and want it to be focused on price to performance, though. It's kind of not the target audience.

 

[remekra]

Yes, but in the reviews 5080 will be 999$ and be praised for good value. The fact that only MSRP cards which are FE will be bought up by bots in 10 seconds doesn't matter.
That is the plan, since after mining.
They can say MSRP is whatever they like. It will not be 999$ in real world where you just go to a website and buy a GPU.