LGA 1851 Thermal contact frames, yes or no?

[nablaforlife]

Hello everybody,

need your help. Are those thermal contact frames, for eg. the one from Thermaltake, recommended for the LGA 1851 to protect the CPU from bending and decreasing temperature like it was on the LGA 1700?

Thank you!

 

[ir_cow]

It's not needed apparently from der8auer reporting, but it can slightly improve things. However the 1700 one will not fit. Must wait for 1851 ones to be made.

1700 socket it made a big difference for me.

 

[BoggledBeagle]

The CPUs in LGA 1851 socket still bend:

How to check flatness of CPUs and coolers - INK and OPTICAL INTERFERENCE methods

I think lapping truly flat surface is hard, because when you have truly flat surface the friction of the object with the emery paper is very high. So you need to move the object with very careful and precise force overcoming and fighting with high friction. Most of the time you end up applying...

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The frame will prevent the bending, CPUs will be bulged slightly instead and will optimally cool under FLAT coolers.

 

[Deleted member 242843]

At 20 dollars, it's pretty cheap insurance.

 

[nablaforlife]

Thank you all.

So basically it will not make any damage, instead it will help in the LGA1851 as well.

 

[ir_cow]

The CPUs in LGA 1851 socket still bend:

How to check flatness of CPUs and coolers - INK and OPTICAL INTERFERENCE methods

I think lapping truly flat surface is hard, because when you have truly flat surface the friction of the object with the emery paper is very high. So you need to move the object with very careful and precise force overcoming and fighting with high friction. Most of the time you end up applying...

www.techpowerup.com

The frame will prevent the bending, CPUs will be bulged slightly instead and will optimally cool under FLAT coolers.

15:04 Start time. derb8er measures the bend. It still exists yes, but very minor with the new socket frame (though some MB have the old socket frame....). I have no problems pull 300+ from my 285K and still within the thermal limit. Couldn't do that with the 13900K. Waiting for the $8 Thermalright frames to come out and see if it improves memory again.

 

[nablaforlife]

Can you please post the result then?

I should receive the 245K in few days, it's not about the cost of the Thermalright frame of course, but I'm worried about damaging something, so if it's not worthy I wouldn't take the risk myself.

 

[Deleted member 242843]

Can you please post the result then?

I should receive the 245K in few days, it's not about the cost of the Thermalright frame of course, but I'm worried about damaging something, so if it's not worthy I wouldn't take the risk myself.

What risk? What are you going to damage? At best, it will help your cooling and improve lifespan of cpu. At worst, it won't hurt anything and you spent 20 bucks on it.

 

[nablaforlife]

What risk? What are you going to damage? At best, it will help your cooling and improve lifespan of cpu. At worst, it won't hurt anything and you spent 20 bucks on it.

The risk of myself damaging the motherboard in some way when messing up with the CPU socket pins...!

I know that it seems an easy thing to do and I should cover the socket with the CPU itself, even using the GameNexus tutorial to how to strengthen the screws, but I find it risky anyway.

Anyway, I'm ordering it.

 

[BoggledBeagle]

What???

First you sit the CPU in the socket so that it protects pins, then you remove stock IML and mount the frame, the frame sits on the board and you do not need to do anything special with tightening the screws.

Before you start you put something under the backplate so that it does not fall off when you remove the stock ILM. You can also stick in on the MB with some tape.

 

[nablaforlife]

In the end I installed it but didn't notice any major improvements in temperatures.

 

[BoggledBeagle]

Strong bending of the CPUs with stock ILM has been demontrated and measured by reviewers, users and cooler manufacturers.

Arctic even uses a frame as a standard way of mounting the CPU with their third generation of liquid coolers.

 

[Dr. Dro]

What was needed to claim. Another "cheap" BS, just for idiots to spend money. Have made some 1700 builts, currently at one of mine is 14600K, no problemA, no drama...

It is a quality of life improvement regardless, and it's quite affordable. While not strictly necessary I wouldn't exactly bestow the quality of idiot upon the guy who chooses to grab one. I might end up getting another when I rebuild my machine with the 5090.

 

[nablaforlife]

Strong bending of the CPUs with stock ILM has been demontrated and measured by reviewers, users and cooler manufacturers.

Arctic even uses a frame as a standard way of mounting the CPU with their third generation of liquid coolers.

Yes, and even with the new ILM, the RL-ILM, the bending seems present in the LGA1851, that's why I choosed to install it.

 

[ir_cow]

I put one on after writing that reply to see. For me it didn't do anything. But I'm using a 2-slot motherboard and already could reach 9600 MT/s. CPU was in the 70s and still is.