Recommended PhysX card for 5xxx series? [Is vRAM relevant?]

[steamrick]

I remember that in the starting times of PhysX in 2010 if you wanted to offload, you needed a decently beefy second card or you'd get better performance just using your regular card.

As such, this suggestion:

6600GT would be fine

would not be fine because the 6600GT would bottleneck.

I believe I recall that for the GTX 260 you'd have wanted a 9800GT to offload PhysX in Mafia 2 because a 9600GT was slow enough you'd get better performance just using the GTX 260 solo.

 

[3x0]

would not be fine because the 6600GT would bottleneck.

6600GT wouldn't work because it doesn't support PhysX. GeForce 8000 and up only

 

[Dr. Dro]

By your reasoning shouldn't a 3050 work as well?

I mean yes I specifically mentioned the 3050 as the better option. 6 GB is small today but back in 2013 it took the almighty Titan to get you that much, and PhysX generally predates even that

 

[Frick]

As of early and mid 2010s, sure, CPUs sucked at dealing with PhysX but the today's million core monsters? I thought you might as well consider the CPU penalty negligible on 12900K onwards. Am I wrong?

RTX 50-Series GPUs have dropped support for 32-bit PhysX; many older PC games are impacted (Mirror's Edge, Borderlands, etc) PC

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1irs8xk/rtx_50_series_silently_removed_32bit_physx_support/ A user on Reddit tested Borderlands 2 with a 9800X3D and RTX 5090 and they said this...

www.resetera.com

 

[Dr. Dro]

would not be fine because the 6600GT would bottleneck.

CUDA was introduced alongside unified shaders and the G80 GPU, the runtime required it as the baseline hardware. So it didn't work on anything older than the 8800 series.

 

[freeagent]

6600GT wouldn't work because it doesn't support PhysX. GeForce 8000 and up only

It was just a joke, I didn't think anyone would take it seriously.

Can you even find a 6600GT? That GPU is probably older than some members.

 

[3x0]

Can you even find a 6600GT? That GPU is probably older than some members.

"Psst, hey kid, want some PhysX?" *opens his coat*

Spoiler

 

[Viruzz]

Supported with current drivers =\= support with future drivers. Nvidia began deprecating 32 bit CUDA several major versions ago. It's probably safe to say that all modern CUDA-based software has switched to 64bits by now. It will eventually be removed entirely, in which case 4000 users who require it (and those would be a very small minority) can simply stick to older drivers.

I suppose Nvidia can be "nice" enough to keep the bits in until Ada gpus receive the legacy status. But it's probably unwise to bet on megacorps being "nice".

A product sold with a feature-set right?
So say 4090 sold with 32bit Physx support, thats official support out of the box, so how they can disable a feature later? They can be sued for that
Sure after X amount of years when they stop driver support, but not while its driver supported

 

[Zazigalka]

You people are out of your minds. I wouldn't buy a 5000 series until it can run 2013 games better than 2013 cards. nvidia will probably end support for maxwell/pascal in a year or two, and screw you for the second time.

 

[Viruzz]

Someone posted the Linus video I was thinking about, but basically they conlcuded that pairing a new card with a very old card supporting Physx aint' that great. I mean it's best if the "Physx" card is a closer generation to the main card that is used. (at least that's what I remembered). If you have a 5xxx card, let's say something like RTX A2000? They are fairly cheap after mining, no power connector, extremely efficient. 4050/3050 something of the sort IMO.

How much is cheap?, im not from USA, the cheapest one i see on ebay with INT shipping 237$+73$ [plus guaranteed custom fee]

A 3050 will be cheaper on aliexpress [or similar price minus tax]
I found single slot 1050Ti 4Gb will be 138$, the issue is for how long it will be supported

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003466316800.html

 

[Toss]

I recommend 9070 XT LUL

 

[Caring1]

"if they update"

The point is you can't install two versions at the same time, so you have to update if you have any 5xxx series card.

snip

I didn't think drivers were necessary for the second GPU as long as it was recognized by the system and only selected for PhysX.
It's not like it will be directly connected to the Monitor for output.

 

[Viruzz]

Guys, any idea if DXVK can solve this? What happens when you play PhysX games with DXVK? Do they get disabled or they translated

 

[Dr. Dro]

I recommend 9070 XT LUL

Ah yes, complains Nvidia specific feature is being discontinued after 15 years, the solution is to buy from the vendor that never supported said feature to begin with.

Brilliant.

You people are out of your minds. I wouldn't buy a 5000 series until it can run 2013 games better than 2013 cards. nvidia will probably end support for maxwell/pascal in a year or two, and screw you for the second time.

I can't help but ask. Where exactly was this outrage when AMD discontinued Fury X 6 years on the clock from release date? Or the fact they've thrown Radeon VII into a legacy branch less than 3 years after its release? Maxwell is 11 years old, btw. Where was all the anger when they removed Mantle from the driver?

A product sold with a feature-set right?
So say 4090 sold with 32bit Physx support, thats official support out of the box, so how they can disable a feature later? They can be sued for that
Sure after X amount of years when they stop driver support, but not while its driver supported

32-bit CUDA was not removed from Ada or earlier, it just wasn't implemented in Blackwell.

And I have a funny feeling someone is going to find a way to reactivate support somehow, you know, once people have the cards they've bought.

 

[freeagent]

Why are you guys so hard up for PhysX?

Because it isn't lit up in GPUZ?

 

[Dr. Dro]

Guys, any idea if DXVK can solve this? What happens when you play PhysX games with DXVK? Do they get disabled or they translated

No. It still relies on CUDA and therefore if CUDA is absent then so is PhysX.

 

[mxthunder]

Why is this not front page news? Im so damn pissed. Between this and the missing ROPS, long term nvidia fan boy giving a big F-U to nvidia here.

 

[Shihab]

A product sold with a feature-set right?
So say 4090 sold with 32bit Physx support, thats official support out of the box, so how they can disable a feature later? They can be sued for that
Sure after X amount of years when they stop driver support, but not while its driver supported

I don't recall these cards explicitly marketed with "32bit" CUDA support. They were sold as CUDA supporting hardware, irrespective of what register size they target. And they will remain as such for the foreseeable future.

 

[stahlhart]

Why are you guys so hard up for PhysX?

Because it isn't lit up in GPUZ?

Moderators get to troll here. Nice work when you can get it, apparently.

 

[Zazigalka]

I can't help but ask. Where exactly was this outrage when AMD discontinued Fury X 6 years on the clock from release date? Or the fact they've thrown Radeon VII into a legacy branch less than 3 years after its release? Maxwell is 11 years old, btw. Where was all the anger when they removed Mantle from the driver?

I never cared about Fury X. It was a fancily packaged turd compared to my 980Ti and anyone who bought one was just plain stupid. The fact that support for late GCN cards like 390/Fury ended waaay too soon doesn't mean nvidia should get a pass with physx support on cards that cost $1000 for the cheapest one.

 

[freeagent]

Moderators get to troll here. Nice work when you can get it, apparently.

It was a genuine question. Some people have a day job that does not let them be in contact with the outside world.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

So you want to play decade old games with old coding meant for specific hardware.

You don't build a modern rig to game retro.

Just build a rig with a couple of GTX 980 ti's in SLI and enjoy some old DX9/10 gaming with NV physx. It'll install and work.

You all didn't want physx when it was new and cool, it cost more money and time. "Games don't need it, looks fine without it".

Who here has an actual PPU physx card and was serious about it ever? Oh me? That's it? Lol.

Old timer say quit your crying, it's too late now.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Why does it feel like we just went back in time by about 15 years with this PhysX shit? I remember having a 9800GT with my GTX260s for PhysX when i had a Core i7 920. Never thought we would ever go back to that.

 

[freeagent]

How long have AMD user been banished from the physx realm?

A decade? Close to two decades?

I don't hear them complaining

 

[Macro Device]

I don't hear them complaining

We're physxally incapable of that, yeah. Inherently lackluster upscaling and RT performance do hurt quite more.