Nvidia's GPU market share hits 90% in Q4 2024 (gets closer to full monopoly)

[AusWolf]

Happy you got one but ever at msrp everything is pretty meh to me. We got the worst Nvidia generation I can remember against a we've almost caught up but not quite generation from AMD...

I'd say the 9070 XT and the B580 would be pretty good for MSRP. Not for a penny more, though.

Do you think literally nobody got a 50 series at MSRP? I personally know several, let alone what I've seen online. Anyone who snagged at launch or buys the FE direct from Nvidia gets MSRP.

For sure there are far less of them (cards being sold at MSRP), and I'd probably agree more 9070 series could be had at MSRP at launch, but the truth doesn't need to be stretched here.

I'm not stretching the truth. Based on reports I've read, there were far more 9070 cards at launch than 50-series Nvidia ones.
They were still gone in a few minutes and caused blackouts across all UK retailers' websites, though.

Hope you like the 9070XT! how is it so far?

I haven't made up my mind, yet. I need Mesa 25 drivers to run it properly, but only Nobara Linux has it so far, and only in a 25.0.1.something beta version. The Bazzite team is a bit slow with this one.

Based on my limited interaction with Nobara, it's not a bad card, but there's definitely room for improvement with the driver. On Linux, it performs kind of like a non-XT on Windows, which I'm hoping will change.

It's only that its VRAM runs a bit warmer than I'm used to, but then, the GPU is a lot cooler than that of my 6750 XT, so pros and cons, I suppose.

 

[JustBenching]

Even if it compared more favorably to the 5070ti, the 5070ti isn't even a good product from generational improvement so basically losing to a meh product at everything but being slightly cheaper #awesome.

Now I'll wait for UDNA and hopefully it can actually beat a meh product at something other than being slightly cheaper.

Man I've been saying this way before the reviews. We got 2 nvidia gens back to back that are mediocre and amd can't even beat that and it just has to be cheaper instead. It's pathetic. Thank god 4090 was decent else I'd probably end up with no gpu and no pc whatsoever, situation is dire.

When I claimed that the 9070xt should be 2x 6800xt I was getting personal attacks for being a weirdo, lol...

 

[AusWolf]

What more do I need to support my claim other than the reviews themselves? The 5070ti is slightly faster in raster, a lot faster in RT, with much lower power draw and let's say a slightly better upscaler and the same vram. The 9070xt has no competitive advantage, that's why it's cheaper. Being cheaper is great but that's not really a competition, the 9070xt will always be cheaper (or contrary, nvidia will always have the 5070ti at a higher price) because it's the worse product.

Yes, the better RT makes the 5070 Ti the better product. But $150 better? Doubtful.

It's not a good card for SFF pcs with limited airflow.

Like the 5070 Ti is?

EG1. When PT comes into play the 9070xt just rolls over and literally dies.

Yes, find some edge case that very few care about to prove why a cheaper product is cheaper. Good job!

 

[JustBenching]

Yes, the better RT makes the 5070 Ti the better product. But $150 better? Doubtful.


Like the 5070 Ti is?


Yes, find some edge case that very few care about to prove why a cheaper product is cheaper. Good job!

Again the price is irrelevant for the simple reason that's it's a much easier fix. Having the worse product isn't fixable.

Drawing 80w less while having twice the performance in PT is an edge case. K man whatever.

 

[AusWolf]

Again the price is irrelevant for the simple reason that's it's a much easier fix. Having the worse product isn't fixable.

Then fix the price, please.

Drawing 80w less while having twice the performance in PT is an edge case. K man whatever.

PT is an edge case.

And I don't know where you get that 80 W from. The 5070 Ti has the same TDP as a base model 9070 XT.

 

[wolf]

Well, at least I got my 9070 XT for MSRP. I guess that makes things marginally better than what any 50-series owner can say.

I'm not stretching the truth.

I mean, I'm literally quoting you here, unless my interpretation of your statement is wrong, but it seems like you're saying anyone with a 50 series didn't get MSRP, which is factually incorrect.

Interesting with the issues however, you must be used to rolling with the Linux "punches" I guess, probs worth it in the long run though knowing the drivers and support will come up good.

 

[JustBenching]

Then fix the price, please.


PT is an edge case.

And I don't know where you get that 80 W from. The 5070 Ti has the same TDP as a base model 9070 XT.

From the reviews? Both the mercury and the nitro are +80w over the 5070ti, +70w over the oced 5070ti models.

What do you mean "fix the price", the price is fine, the 5070ti should be more expensive than the 9070xt because it's a better product.

 

[AusWolf]

From the reviews? Both the mercury and the nitro are +80w over the 5070ti, +70w over the oced 5070ti models.

Both are overclocked models with an increased TDP. The base model 9070 XT has a 4 W higher TDP than the 5070 Ti.

What do you mean "fix the price", the price is fine, the 5070ti should be more expensive than the 9070xt because it's a better product.

Not $150 more expensive. I'd settle with $50.

 

[JustBenching]

Both are overclocked models with an increased TDP. The base model 9070 XT has a 4 W higher TDP than the 5070 Ti.


Not $150 more expensive. I'd settle with $50.

Which are those models? Has TPU reviewed them? I only see 2 cards and they are both at 360 watts.

I'm sure a lot of people would pay the 150 extra just for the power draw alone, not even touching rt /PT performance. I don't mind a card drawing a lot, my 4090 is already at 320w (locked) but not for the level of performance of the XT. Even the 5070ti is a power hog already but the XT, omfg.

 

[AusWolf]

Which are those models? Has TPU reviewed them? I only see 2 cards and they are both at 360 watts.

For example the Powercolor Reaper right here in my PC. Or the Sapphire Pulse. TPU isn't the only site doing GPU reviews, you know.

I'm sure a lot of people would pay the 150 extra just got the power draw alone, not even touching rt /PT performance.

Those people must have caused the blackouts across all major UK retailers during the 9070 launch, definitely.

 

[JustBenching]

For example the Powercolor Reaper right here in my PC. Or the Sapphire Pulse. TPU isn't the only site doing GPU reviews, you know.


Those people must have caused the blackouts across all major UK retailers during the 9070 launch, definitely.

Come on I didnt just check TPU. Hub tested the pure and that's still 80w over the 5070ti.

 

[AusWolf]

Come on I didnt just check TPU. Hub tested the pure and that's still 80w over the 5070ti.

That's also an overclocked model.

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

The 7900xtx according to TPUs latest review is slower than the 4080. Even in raster. While drawing less power. Case closed, let's move on.

https://tpucdn.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-9070-tuf-oc/images/relative-performance-3840-2160.png

That is overall performance, there are no "raster only" graphs with no raytracing in these reviews. You know, you have to understand what you read..

https://www.guru3d.com/data/publish/224/ea376ef3c05a28fd968e667bf95a161a3e8510/picture34.webp

Guru 3D has quite different numbers, maybe that's raster only, as the 9070 beats the 5070ti

Both are overclocked models with an increased TDP. The base model 9070 XT has a 4 W higher TDP than the 5070 Ti.


Not $150 more expensive. I'd settle with $50.

Find me a 5070ti for 900 euros in italy, as i am getting the 9070xt for 750 while the first 5070ti here is 1300.

 

[AusWolf]

Find me a 5070ti for 900 euros in italy, as i am getting the 9070xt for 750 while the first 5070ti here is 1300.

Exactly my point. Even the 9070 XT is highly questionable for 750, but 1300 for a x70 tier card is just ridiculous.

 

[wolf]

Come on I didnt just check TPU. Hub tested the pure and that's still 80w over the 5070ti.

80w is a fair bit more, even for an oc that gives a few % performance than a base. The fact so many are 3x8 PIN kinda speaks to it a bit.

 

[AusWolf]

80w is a fair bit more, even for an oc that gives a few % performance than a base. The fact so many are 3x8 PIN kinda speaks to it a bit.

5070 Ti reference TDP = 300 W.
9070 XT reference TDP = 304 W.

Don't compare a 3x8-pin card to the Nvidia FE if you want to keep it fair.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Nvidia's GPU market share drops to 82% (gets further from full monopoly)​

There's the new headline for a thread. Not that it matters, it'll devolve into a versus debate regardless.

 

[Krit]

Find me a 5070ti for 900 euros in italy, as i am getting the 9070xt for 750 while the first 5070ti here is 1300.

Where i live usually difference is 150-200€ which is about right because RTX 5070 Ti is a better product.

RTX 5070 Ti - 1039€
RX 9070 XT - 878€
RX 7900 XTX - 877€

Average FPS is better on old high end RX 7900 XTX while overpriced new midrange gpus are slightly behind right now companies are making a big money from that (daylight robbery)

 

[wolf]

Don't compare a 3x8-pin card to the Nvidia FE if you want to keep it fair.

I wasn't comparing to FE, but even so the 9070XT looks to be typically using more power for less performance, I'll agree the margin is closer though in the one review I found of a 2x8Pin card. Looks like something circa 15-25% efficiency difference, unless it's the rarer title where the XT wins then it's almost even. An interesting comparison to me would be the 9070XT vs 5080 measing for only efficiency as they represent fully enabled 256-bit memory GPU's from each, I eagerly await TPU testing the (oddly specific) 304w base model to get a sense of the architecture when it's more power constrained and efficient.

 

[AusWolf]

I wasn't comparing to FE, but even so the 9070XT looks to be typically using more power for less performance, I'll agree the margin is closer though in the one review I found of a 2x8Pin card. Looks like something circa 15-25% efficiency difference, unless it's the rarer title where the XT wins then it's almost even. An interesting comparison to me would be the 9070XT vs 5080 measing for only efficiency as they represent fully enabled 256-bit memory GPU's from each, I eagerly await TPU testing the (oddly specific) 304w base model to get a sense of the architecture when it's more power constrained and efficient.

I expect the 304 W base models to close the gap with the 5070 Ti. AMD isn't as far behind in efficiency as one might guess from the TPU reviews. We have to keep in mind that those tests were done on insanely factory overclocked cards with increased TDPs. Overclocking has never been about efficiency, not to mention, knowing AMD, I assume that the 304 W base models are already at the top of Navi 48's efficiency curve.

 

[Rover4444]

5070 Ti is definitely the better value at $150 more than the 9070 XT. Imagine being on RDNA 3 and learning you can't run FSR 4 while every card since Turing can do DLSS 4. Maybe it won't finewine like AMD does, but it'll be able to run ANYTHING you can think of and you can count on support a decade from now. AMD can't even support ROCm day one and keep it up for more than five years for most of their cards.

 

[Krit]

5070 Ti is definitely the better value at $150 more than the 9070 XT.

For +150$ yes it's better for +200$ i would choose RX 9070 XT

 

[Rover4444]

For +150$ yes it's better for +200$ i would choose RX 9070 XT

I agree, it should've been $50 cheaper to dominate the market. $500 would have been day one for me, don't care if ROCm isn't supported yet.

 

[AusWolf]

5070 Ti is definitely the better value at $150 more than the 9070 XT. Imagine being on RDNA 3 and learning you can't run FSR 4 while every card since Turing can do DLSS 4. Maybe it won't finewine like AMD does, but it'll be able to run ANYTHING you can think of and you can count on support a decade from now. AMD can't even support ROCm day one and keep it up for more than five years for most of their cards.

I don't know where you've been during the last few Nvidia generations when you needed a new card every time you wanted to use a new DLSS version. Then much later, they just magically unlocked it for older cards, oopsie.

No, $150 more isn't worth it.

 

[Rungar]

9070xt comes pretty close to the 5070ti in testing and is much cheaper and more available. They did a great job with this i think.
now that they have a very popular card with actual dedicated hardware im thinking fs4 will be getting even more improvements even in the short term to keep up momentum.
i would of sold the 9070 for $500 though.

lets face it.. Nvidia cant even be bothered to make the cards to sell.. i can easily see fsr overtaking dlss at some point.