Strange games on rtx 3070 ti and OCCT error too

[Milan0305]

So, OCCT (test version) showed a lot of error when I first did a power test. After 30 min I tried it again and there was no error. How is it possible or what problem is that?


Here is the full problem:



I had an issues with rocket league and some other apps (0xc0000005 error in event viewer), but the game not crash or freeze. All games feels like they're changing at every startup. I literally tried everything I found on the internet and I contacted Nvidia, Microsoft, Epic games to help me. They seems like they can't help more. So I decided to make some hardware tests. I use OCCT and once it found a lot of errors on a Power test. I ran it 4 times and just once I get this error. Every other stability test was good. I even installed an older gpu driver with ddu. I clean installed Windows more times. I tried 11 and 10 too. All drivers from motherboard website (ASUS B660M PLUS WIFI D4).Problem is still there. I wouldn't care if I didn't experience such problems. Don't freeze or stutters something is just not right. I really don't know what should I do anymore. Also, I hardly get any answers from Nvidia, Microsoft, or Epic anymore. Take this to mean that it's good if I get one answer a week. Should I RMA gpu? I bought this PC about 3 years ago.I don't usually mess with Windows after installation. I set my power settings to performance, set 240Hz, game bar off. In the nvidia panel, ultra low latency mode, but I've tried off-on as well, prefer maximum performance, high performance. On BIOS I disable fast boot, enable secure boot with custom (default) key management. But I've tried standard as well. There is no overclock, not even XMP, so the problem is that anything is overclocked. Displayport VESA certified. What's more, when I plug my computer in, the screen of my TV, which is playing a program and not connected to the PC, goes black for a few seconds. Now I'm trying my computer on a different outlet.



Thank you if reading that much to help me.

 

[Chrispy_]

No idea but my first test would be to install MSI afterburner and set new lower power limits for the GPU and see if it can pass the test using 15-20% less power.

It could be an issue with your PSU, or it could be an issue with the VRMs on the 3070Ti starting to fail, there's no easy way to rule out the PSU unless you have a different one to test with, so the best thing you can do is see if you can get the system to pass stability tests at lower power levels, to identify if that's even the real issue or not.

Then, *IF* the card is stable using less power, you can change your CPUs PL1/PL2 limit in the BIOS, set it to 45W or something very low termporarily - which will free up some headroom in the PSU. Then you can see if your GPU is stable again at stock power levels.

If your GPU is stable at stock power settings when your CPU is power-restricted, your PSU is suspect.
If your GPU is still giving errors even when your CPU isn't using much power, then the fault is likely the GPU itself.

Edit:
I'll assume you've tried the obvious stuff already (Clear CMOS and run the motherboard at safe defaults, re-seated the GPU in the PCIe slot, and done a safe-mode DDU removal of old graphics drivers before a clean install of the latest drivers?)

 

[Milan0305]

No idea but my first test would be to install MSI afterburner and set new lower power limits for the GPU and see if it can pass the test using 15-20% less power.

It could be an issue with your PSU, or it could be an issue with the VRMs on the 3070Ti starting to fail, there's no easy way to rule out the PSU unless you have a different one to test with, so the best thing you can do is see if you can get the system to pass stability tests at lower power levels, to identify if that's even the real issue or not.

Then, *IF* the card is stable using less power, you can change your CPUs PL1/PL2 limit in the BIOS, set it to 45W or something very low termporarily - which will free up some headroom in the PSU. Then you can see if your GPU is stable again at stock power levels.

If your GPU is stable at stock power settings when your CPU is power-restricted, your PSU is suspect.
If your GPU is still giving errors even when your CPU isn't using much power, then the fault is likely the GPU itself.

Edit:
I'll assume you've tried the obvious stuff already (Clear CMOS and run the motherboard at safe defaults, re-seated the GPU in the PCIe slot, and done a safe-mode DDU removal of old graphics drivers before a clean install of the latest drivers?)

Hello,

Thank you! I appriciate that you even answer for it since you said you don't know, because I don't know what to do. Should I RMA the GPU or PSU. The problem here is that I ran the test about 4 times for 30 min. And I just get once this error. So I really don't know if the issue was with OCCT (it was a test version, but I think it doesnt matter) or with my PC. I don't know how to test it even if I lower the GPU power. But I checked it and I can RMA the gpu. And I don't know how much warranty for the PSU. Because my PC is not 2 years old. But since I didn't build it they can build my PC with an old gpu or psu. Btw my gpu is Manli rtx 3070Ti it's more than 2 years old probably. And it's also possible that they used it. Do you know anything about this 0xc0000005 error code, or you just think about PSU or GPU from OCCT test? I read it's an acces violation error, but I haven't found that this could be caused by a hardware failure? I literally tried every software repair option, they told to me and I found on the Internet.

Yes. I tried these expect another slot on my motherboard, because GPU doesn't fit there. I don't want to get out my motherboard just to check that.

 

[DirtyDingusMcgee]

Do you need three threads for the same problem? Asking the same question without any new info doesn't help us help you.

It sure sounds like a power issue, especially with the whole "plugging in the psu makes the tv across the room blank out for a few seconds" thing.

The powersupply you have is not what i would call a great one.

If the games don't freeze or stutter, what about them is not right? Putting the aberant OCCT test and possible power issue aside, what exactly is the problem? 0xc0000005 could be a handful of things. Have you ran dism, sfc, and chkdsk to verify that windows is functioning properly. How about a memory test? Reseat gpu, memory and power connections? How are temps? Using Afterburner to adjust gpu power limits has been mentioned.

How often is rocket league crashing? I can't read that windows log at all.

Sounds like some load testing is in order. Run the system with various different loads, while monitoring the power with hwinfo or something that lets you see power usage. Look for significant spikes or droops in voltage, current, and usage (monitor temps too). A multi-meter can be used to verify accuracy of power readings.

If cannot find anything, you may need to have an electrician check the power at the wall.

I don't really have anything else to go on here.

 

[Milan0305]

Do you need three threads for the same problem? Asking the same question without any new info doesn't help us help you.

It sure sounds like a power issue, especially with the whole "plugging in the psu makes the tv across the room blank out for a few seconds" thing.

The powersupply you have is not what i would call a great one.

If the games don't freeze or stutter, what about them is not right? Putting the aberant OCCT test and possible power issue aside, what exactly is the problem? 0xc0000005 could be a handful of things. Have you ran dism, sfc, and chkdsk to verify that windows is functioning properly. How about a memory test? Reseat gpu, memory and power connections? How are temps? Using Afterburner to adjust gpu power limits has been mentioned.

How often is rocket league crashing? I can't read that windows log at all.

Sounds like some load testing is in order. Run the system with various different loads, while monitoring the power with hwinfo or something that lets you see power usage. Look for significant spikes or droops in voltage, current, and usage (monitor temps too). A multi-meter can be used to verify accuracy of power readings.

If cannot find anything, you may need to have an electrician check the power at the wall.

I don't really have anything else to go on here.

If nobody wants to help me then yes I have to create 3 threads. Because clearly you can see I don't really get answers just I just get the "test this" and "test that". When I wrote that I tested it, no response came. I wrote back to you and I didn't get any response. If you don't want to help, you don't have to, but then don't blame me because I made multiple threads, just to get an answer.

There is nothing wrong with the wiring in the house. As I wrote, I tried it in a completely different one and the same thing happened there. Besides, my brother's machine works perfectly. Besides, I don't know if the test was 100% correct because I downloaded the test version of OCCT.

I tried these. I tried a lot of things that I don't wanna write down, because probably it would be an hour.

It's not crash, that's why I don't understand. It just gives the error and the game changes, sometimes it becomes slower, sometimes it becomes faster. The physics, graphics, input lag are different.

 

[DirtyDingusMcgee]

If nobody wants to help me then yes I have to create 3 threads. Because clearly you can see I don't really get answers just I just get the "test this" and "test that". When I wrote that I tested it, no response came. I wrote back to you and I didn't get any response. If you don't want to help, you don't have to, but then don't blame me because I made multiple threads, just to get an answer.

There is nothing wrong with the wiring in the house. As I wrote, I tried it in a completely different one and the same thing happened there. Besides, my brother's machine works perfectly. Besides, I don't know if the test was 100% correct because I downloaded the test version of OCCT.

I tried these. I tried a lot of things that I don't wanna write down, because probably it would be an hour.

It's not crash, that's why I don't understand. It just gives the error and the game changes, sometimes it becomes slower, sometimes it becomes faster. The physics, graphics, input lag are different.

You obtain answers by testing things. You've not given anyone enough information to give you a proper answer.

It just gives the error and the game changes, sometimes it becomes slower, sometimes it becomes faster. The physics, graphics, input lag are different.

Don't freeze or stutters something is just not right

This is far too vague to give you an answer.

You've told us nothing of your software environment. You reinstalled windows? when? In what order have you performed your tests? Before or after windows was reinstalled? What all do you have installed?

You have a questionable power supply. Your specs show that you have 3200 mhz memory but are running it at 3600 (at least that is what it says), and yet you say there is nothing overclocked. We have no idea what you have fooled around with in the bios or in windows, and you won't say.

Diagnostics is a step-by-step logical process of elimination, and you give no info, yet demand an answer. There are a lot of experienced people here, but we are all just taking shots in the dark if you tell us nothing.

You have not provided any numbers relating to the problem, just that something "feels off" (Frame-rate was X before, and is now Y. Latency was X before and is now Y, or any kind of data). What feels off exactly? There is no information anywhere.

0xc0000005 errors ,in my experience, is ram or software related, but there are certainly other possibilities. We will never know, because you refuse to test anything, or tell us the results of any tests you have run besides 4 OCCT tests, one of which produced 106 million errors.

By all means, try to RMA your 3 year old computer. Good luck. You will need it.

You wouldn't be vague with a doctor or a mechanic. Don't be vague with a computer tech either.

 

[Milan0305]

You obtain answers by testing things. You've not given anyone enough information to give you a proper answer.



This is far too vague to give you an answer.

You've told us nothing of your software environment. You reinstalled windows? when? In what order have you performed your tests? Before or after windows was reinstalled? What all do you have installed?

You have a questionable power supply. Your specs show that you have 3200 mhz memory but are running it at 3600 (at least that is what it says), and yet you say there is nothing overclocked. We have no idea what you have fooled around with in the bios or in windows, and you won't say.

Diagnostics is a step-by-step logical process of elimination, and you give no info, yet demand an answer. There are a lot of experienced people here, but we are all just taking shots in the dark if you tell us nothing.

You have not provided any numbers relating to the problem, just that something "feels off" (Frame-rate was X before, and is now Y. Latency was X before and is now Y, or any kind of data). What feels off exactly? There is no information anywhere.

0xc0000005 errors ,in my experience, is ram or software related, but there are certainly other possibilities. We will never know, because you refuse to test anything, or tell us the results of any tests you have run besides 4 OCCT tests, one of which produced 106 million errors.

By all means, try to RMA your 3 year old computer. Good luck. You will need it.

You wouldn't be vague with a doctor or a mechanic. Don't be vague with a computer tech either.

Oh dear. You should probably read the text I wrote better. I think we're neglecting this. My profile also says that my RAM is 3600MHz, not 3200MHz. Reread the thread where I wrote this. Or this thread too. I wrote it clearly and understandably. I ran all the stability tests in OCCT and there were no errors. I've reinstalled Windows many times and I don't adjust anything in it, only performance and energy. I don't even know where you got the idea that I'm resetting the BIOS settings. Seriously, I also wrote it clearly and understandably that I turned off fast startup and turned on secure boot. I've reinstalled it many times, but if you really want to know, it was 1 week ago. Don't think I'm stupid enough to say that I reinstalled it when I bought it 3 years ago. That's right, I ran the diagnostics in order, which you're not willing to read or understand, but if you want to know that much (I ran several RAM tests, because the 0xc0000005 code mostly belongs to that). There's nothing wrong with it, as I already described. What should I test if you don't write anything? You just say that it's good and it's probably the PSU. What should I test for this? You don't need luck, if there really is a problem and nvidia also writes that or anyone else. Also, you know for sure that the store doesn't really have to sell a 3-year-old product . In fact, they can even use it in the store before that and they're not sure they'll tell you. I also wrote that I've already talked to Nvidia, Microsoft, Epic games. Do you think they didn't suggest all the basic solutions that I tried? Do you think they're completely stupid or what? Besides, I might have found the problem and it's nowhere near them. Also, how many times have I mentioned that I downloaded the test version of OCCT, not the stable version. It's possible that's why it gave me so many errors.What other data should be provided? I don't usually look at input lag, but it is clearly noticeable. I didn't even mention the frame rate in this thread. I also described my problem, that the physics input lag and the game speed change. This cannot be described better. If the game seems faster, the input lag is also lower and the controls are much more sensitive. If it is slower, then the opposite is true.

 

[_roman_]

Are you sure your settings are stable.

MY hardware is 12 hours epic games stable in windows 11 pro but instantly crashes with the gnu toolchain with the gnu userspace and the linux kernel. Windows stable means nothing.

I would take the advise serious and check with default settings.

I only crossread the texts - not every word per word.

Overclock = RMA denied anyway -> check with default settings as post #2

Reinstall will not solve an issue which is hardware based = overclock issue = hardware issue

There are no informations about hardware and software and firmware version (big hint in that sentence)

 

[Milan0305]

Are you sure your settings are stable.

MY hardware is 12 hours epic games stable in windows 11 pro but instantly crashes with the gnu toolchain with the gnu userspace and the linux kernel. Windows stable means nothing.

I would take the advise serious and check with default settings.

I only crossread the texts - not every word per word.

Overclock = RMA denied anyway -> check with default settings as post #2

Reinstall will not solve an issue which is hardware based = overclock issue = hardware issue

There are no informations about hardware and software and firmware version (big hint in that sentence)

I use the default settings all time. I don't use any overclock at all. Just XMP. But I tested it with and without XMP.

 

[DirtyDingusMcgee]

F4-3200C16D-32GVK is 3200mhz

maybe you should read the text you wrote better

are you wrong or is G.skill wrong?

 

[Milan0305]

F4-3200C16D-32GVK is 3200mhz

maybe you should read the text you wrote better

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are you wrong or is G.skill wrong?

Okay. So yeah that's my bad. I didn't do this now and I haven't updated it since, but I wrote it wrong even then. But I already bought another RAM sticks, what is on qvl list. G.skill trident Z. But my RAM is 3600MHz not the 3200MHz one. I will update it to newest one. I just don't understand if this error code is bad or not? Should I even deal with it if the game dont crash?