G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB DDR5-6000 32 GB CL26

[Sol_Badguy]

@ir_cow

Get well soon!

About the RAM kit tables no problem, whatever is getting less complaints and is easier to manage.

Ultra 200 (1851 socket) benefits the most from Ring Cache and D2D increase. You push those up and suddenly 8800 MT/s is leaving everyone else in the dust. Sadly in a stock setup, faster memory isn't the savior for this socket like the previous one.

Good to know, thank you! A lot of internet comments make it seem like you just plug in the ultra-fast CUDIMM kit and BAM! you turn the nag CPU into Pegasus.

 

[ir_cow]

Good to know, thank you! A lot of internet comments make it seem like you just plug in the ultra-fast CUDIMM kit and BAM! you turn the nag CPU into Pegasus.

I wish! Check this out if you have a moment. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-vengeance-rgb-cudimm-ddr5-8800-48gb-cl42/11.html

 

[Sol_Badguy]

I wish! Check this out if you have a moment. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-vengeance-rgb-cudimm-ddr5-8800-48gb-cl42/11.html

Thanks!
After reading that and going back to this: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/cudimm-memory-ddr5-explained-performance-benchmark/4.html
Was the 6400 JEDEC kit tested with the same increases for Ring Cache and Die-2-Die Ratio as the 9600 kit?
If yes would the results be different for the 6400 JEDEC kit with stock settings? How much different?
Meaning those increases only have an effect when the kit has ultra-fast speeds otherwise they have (almost) no effect, or is the effect gradual and basically scales with frequency?
If yes do you need to increase them from the start up to the ceiling that the CPU supports and then the effect is proportional to the speed of the kit or you can increase them only moderately if the kit has more moderate speeds (between 7000 and 8000)?
I hope I was clear enough with what I said.

 

[Hyderz]

@ir_cow i was just going through the 4k game benchmarks and some of the titles like counter strike and baldur's gate 1% lows are labelled 1920x1080

 

[ir_cow]

@ir_cow i was just going through the 4k game benchmarks and some of the titles like counter strike and baldur's gate 1% lows are labelled 1920x1080

Fixed. I had the wrong chart in it's place similar to the Intel one previously. 4K 1% is correct now.

 

[geo2160]

Hey, I actually managed to snag one of these kits, had no idea they would get discontinued so fast. Had little to no time to fine tune them.

I've attached my first attempt at reducing some of the subtimings, I'm pretty sure it would also work at 1.4V too. If anyone wants a stock zentimings screenshot or has any questions, post them.

I'm also cooling them with another piece of top tier discontinued tech: the Jonsbo NF-1

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Hey, I actually managed to snag one of these kits, had no idea they would get discontinued so fast. Had little to no time to fine tune them.

I've attached my first attempt at reducing some of the subtimings, I'm pretty sure it would also work at 1.4V too. If anyone wants a stock zentimings screenshot or has any questions, post them.

I'm also cooling them with another piece of top tier discontinued tech: the Jonsbo NF-1

That might be the most elegant looking RAM fan I have ever seen.

 

[Braegnok]

The 1.40v kit is high bin a-die.

 

[mahanddeem]

ZenTimings screenshot?

Hey, I actually managed to snag one of these kits, had no idea they would get discontinued so fast. Had little to no time to fine tune them.

I've attached my first attempt at reducing some of the subtimings, I'm pretty sure it would also work at 1.4V too. If anyone wants a stock zentimings screenshot or has any questions, post them.

I'm also cooling them with another piece of top tier discontinued tech: the Jonsbo NF-1

Is this ZenTimings completely stock expo profile? I want it please

 

[AsRock]

@ir_cow What happens to lifetime warranty when a G.Skill product reaches EOL?
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End of Life so end of warranty?

This goes for other brands too. If your DDR3 that just went bad, it is unlikely to get the same bin back. Lifetime warranty for most computer components are this way.

Thing is they are not all that clear, would have to go thought the BS and getting in touch with them and if they sway away from what they said in the email that they will hold up to it, sketchy at best.

 

[geo2160]

ZenTimings screenshot?


Is this ZenTimings completely stock expo profile? I want it please

It's not. I mentioned that it was my first attempt at tweaking the sub timings. If you want a stock expo screenshot, I can make one when I get home today.

 

[mahanddeem]

It's not. I mentioned that it was my first attempt at tweaking the sub timings. If you want a stock expo screenshot, I can make one when I get home today.

Yes please if you have the time. Completely EXPO stock ZenTimings for the kit. You'll help a lot the RAM overcooking community. Even chatgpt will take notice and stop giving false advices lol.

 

[ir_cow]

@mahanddeem if you aren't aware, anything not included in the SPD data is created by the motherboard. This is why you can have two memory kits, different motherboards with slightly different results. Some motherboard vendors even have aggressive sub timings enabled by default.

MSI seems to follow a more relaxed approach, ASROCK was super aggressive with its X670 series (don't know for X870).

In any case I'm not sure why people are obsessed with stock zentimings. Only is helpful in motherboard reviews that use the same kit or a manual OC

 

[mahanddeem]

@mahanddeem if you aren't aware, anything not included in the SPD data is created by the motherboard. This is why you can have two memory kits, different motherboards with slightly different results. Some motherboard vendors even have aggressive sub timings enabled by default.

MSI seems to follow a more relaxed approach, ASROCK was super aggressive with its X670 series (don't know for X870).

In any case I'm not sure why people are obsessed with stock zentimings. Only is helpful in motherboard reviews that use the same kit or a manual OC

Aware. But just in case nothing falls off the cracks when needing the SPD values, as well as to diagnose at times why some boards accept to run kits while some can't. I noticed there's not enough understanding of the importance of role of impedences trained for same kits in different boards, which can explain why some can and some can't