4070 SUPER vs. 4070 Ti

[GrimReaper85]

Hi,

I just won an eBay auction for 4070 SUPER for €530. Only 5 months old.
I lost the auction for 4070 Ti, it went for €640. Both ASUS TUF Gaming OC, so one of the best models out there.

Basically, now I want to know if 4070 Ti is even that much better. It would be best if someone owned both.
Yes, I can check myself on Techpowerup and see that 4070 Ti is 8% faster. But it consumes 260W compared to 206W in RT which is 26% more.
So better comparison would be both at PL 220W or similar undervolt. I would guess only +3-4%?

I most probably did a better purchase, just want to make sure.
It is also probably the best purchase out there right now as a new 5060 Ti 16GB is a lot slower and it is €450 for cheapest and louder Palit Infinity 3 and €600 for ASUS TUF.
And new RTX 5070 ASUS TUF is €750, again way worse value.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

Might get lucky and have a 245w bios where most 4070 Super cards are 220w.

The TI models have about 500 more cores. That is the actual difference between Super and TI where the extra cores just use more power, and thus a faster GPU.

 

[arbiter]

Might get lucky and have a 245w bios where most 4070 Super cards are 220w.

The TI models have about 500 more cores. That is the actual difference between Super and TI where the extra cores just use more power, and thus a faster GPU.

it will least have 240 watt since stock wattage is 220. Looking at reviews performance between 2 is around around 6% maybe 10% at most since that ti might be OC'ed a little. 4070ti was pretty much just higher core count 4070. Had same memory bandwidth bit path. You saved 110 eur geting 4070 super when % gains to 4070 ti non-super is single digit %.

ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super TUF OC Review

The ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super TUF stands out with one of the strongest coolers in today's tests. Its dual BIOS feature, particularly the quiet mode BIOS, contributes to an exceptionally quiet operation, making it a standout option for those in search of a whisper-quiet gaming experience.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[ShrimpBrime]

it will least have 240 watt since stock wattage is 220. Looking at reviews performance between 2 is around around 6% maybe 10% at most since that ti might be OC'ed a little. 4070ti was pretty much just higher core count 4070. Had same memory bandwidth bit path. You saved 110 eur geting 4070 super when % gains to 4070 ti non-super is single digit %.

ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super TUF OC Review

The ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super TUF stands out with one of the strongest coolers in today's tests. Its dual BIOS feature, particularly the quiet mode BIOS, contributes to an exceptionally quiet operation, making it a standout option for those in search of a whisper-quiet gaming experience.

www.techpowerup.com

253w is the peak card power. GPU only, 220w.

1 Asus model does have a 245w GPU power, but I'd have to look up the exact model.

I might had been mistaken.

1 Palit Jetstream OC has 245w bios and a Gigabyte card too.

Palit RTX 4070 Super VBIOS

12 GB GDDR6X, 1980 MHz GPU, 1313 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

 

[freeagent]

My 4070Ti has a 305w bios.. can do it, and about 400w board power under the right conditions.

260w sounded a bit low..

Value is in the eye of the beholder, I wouldn't look at anything under a 5070Ti, probably not over either because not only am I broke, but I am a bit poor too lol.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

My 4070Ti has a 305w bios.. can do it, and about 400w board power under the right conditions.

260w sounded a bit low..

Value is in the eye of the beholder, I wouldn't look at anything under a 5070Ti, probably not over either because not only am I broke, but I am a bit poor too lol.

Looking at your rig specs, either you got free hardware or have more money than you say haha!!

 

[freeagent]

Looking at your rig specs, either you got free hardware or have more money than you say haha!!

Lol thank god for payment plans lol

They do not show up for me anymore on Amazon.. funny because I was always early to pay, never late

Maybe they do not offer anymore, and just use Affirm now

 

[Fuzzi0n]

I built a rig for a friend with a 4070 Super and compared it to my Ti, seemed to be around 10% at 1440p, depends on the game etc. The Super you got seems a really good buy, personally I'd just crank the power limit and see how far I can get a stable OC and leave it, cooler is really good on the TUF. Ti is only worth it if it's close on price, back when I got mine it was £600 vs £550ish for a Super with a good cooler so I'd say you made the right decision.

 

[GrimReaper85]

Actually there were 3 higher bidders at €540-550 and my winning bid would have to be around €560. But you know how it is on eBay, it's not unusual there are bid retractions and you get a second chance offer.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

I built a rig for a friend with a 4070 Super and compared it to my Ti, seemed to be around 10% at 1440p, depends on the game etc. The Super you got seems a really good buy, personally I'd just crank the power limit and see how far I can get a stable OC and leave it, cooler is really good on the TUF. Ti is only worth it if it's close on price, back when I got mine it was £600 vs £550ish for a Super with a good cooler so I'd say you made the right decision.

Power limit is locked on these cards. the only way to increase power is by cross-flashing, which is something I had considered on my Super Duper Ventus 3x because the cooler is way over-kill for only 220w GPU restrictions. The nice thing is the 4070 Super is very efficient. Not so nice, only 12GB V-Ram. Most of them, I've seen a pretty decent average clock rate of 2850mhz and in some cases boosting at 3Ghz. A little V-F curve and they do pretty well.

Actually there were 3 higher bidders at €540-550 and my winning bid would have to be around €560. But you know how it is on eBay, it's not unusual there are bid retractions and you get a second chance offer.

Oh you didn't win the auction, got sniped. bummer. Such a power efficient card too. Probably one of the best NV products (of the past now) in my opinion. Clobbers the 4060 cards for sure. Have benched both the 4060 and the TI. complete dog for the money. Same for that 5060 ti. Keep looking for a 4070 Super or TI. It's good performance to dollar and excellent performance to the wattage.

 

[Fuzzi0n]

Power limit is locked on these cards. the only way to increase power is by cross-flashing, which is something I had considered on my Super Duper Ventus 3x because the cooler is way over-kill for only 220w GPU restrictions. The nice thing is the 4070 Super is very efficient. Not so nice, only 12GB V-Ram. Most of them, I've seen a pretty decent average clock rate of 2850mhz and in some cases boosting at 3Ghz. A little V-F curve and they do pretty well.

I mean you can turn it up a bit, TUF is like 250ish I think? Friends card was a Zotac Twin Edge which I think went to 240 W and was running a little over 2900 Mhz, but like you say they're impressively efficient.

Hopefully OP can get that second chance or something similar, only thing priced reasonably well over here is the £500 5070 that OCUK have had for a week or two, not sure how much that would be in € or if you could even get it shipped there.

 

[Outback Bronze]

Only 8% in it and the Ti was going to cost you 20%+ More. Keep the 4070 Super!

 

[arbiter]

Actually there were 3 higher bidders at €540-550 and my winning bid would have to be around €560. But you know how it is on eBay, it's not unusual there are bid retractions and you get a second chance offer.

IMO you got the better deal with the 4070super saved 110$ you can put that as starting bank for when you decide to get something faster or even something else you want to upgrade

 

[ShrimpBrime]

I mean you can turn it up a bit, TUF is like 250ish I think? Friends card was a Zotac Twin Edge which I think went to 240 W and was running a little over 2900 Mhz, but like you say they're impressively efficient.

Hopefully OP can get that second chance or something similar, only thing priced reasonably well over here is the £500 5070 that OCUK have had for a week or two, not sure how much that would be in € or if you could even get it shipped there.

Really a touch Under the Volt and get the Vmem clocks up, helps the performance quite a bit. I've found no real reasons to manually adjust the clocks. Only for benchmarking will I try and OC manually (Just the core I'm talking about, default mem) and it's not an impressive difference because it'll always power throttle first.

500 to you might be 550 to me. This is not a lot of money. I paid 686$ with taxes when it was new new. shortly after release new. I can probably sell it roughly the same price used today. I'd take 600 at the least. It runs so cool, I can't find a way other than block the fans with a pencil before the card gets hot. Gotta get the triple fan cooler and it'll be a very whisper quiet experience.

 

[GrimReaper85]

Oh you didn't win the auction, got sniped. bummer. Such a power efficient card too. Probably one of the best NV products (of the past now) in my opinion. Clobbers the 4060 cards for sure. Have benched both the 4060 and the TI. complete dog for the money. Same for that 5060 ti. Keep looking for a 4070 Super or TI. It's good performance to dollar and excellent performance to the wattage.

No, you don't understand, I got a second chance offer, no one of these 3 paid. Card is already on the way to me.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

No, you don't understand, I got a second chance offer, no one of these 3 paid. Card is already on the way to me.

OH!! my mistake! I hope you like the card. I tried the TUF brand with my motherboard, and I really like it. Very solid quality. Have used DryIce on it, that's kind of a thing I do. and it still works like new

 

[freeagent]

I paid 686$ with taxes when it was new new.

I paid 640 and tax for mine when it was new new

 

[iameatingjam]

Nah, its not that much better, its a bit better, but the 4070 super was more better than the original 4070 than expected (or at least, than I expected) and was the best deal last gen. I wouldn't feel bad about the purchase. Sure, you could have got it a bit cheaper before but we gotta deal with the prices we have now.... and with that being considered, you didn't do that bad.

 

[CheteriagalenTriagalnik]

You can find Gigabyte Windforce 5070s in Europe for ~600 eur brand new. A 4070Ti is not worth more than that. As far as your question is concerned, the difference between these two GPUs is not major. The far more major difference is with the 4070 Ti Super, since that also comes with extra VRAM.

All in all, you didn't get screwed. Enjoy your GPU.