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Team Group GC Pro 2 TB

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The Team Group GC Pro 2 TB is a competitively priced 2 TB solid-state-drive that sells for $200. In our testing it delivered decent performance, but power consumption was very high. This results in a lot of heat output that is very hard to cool, even with a dedicated heatsink.

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Honestly this thing is a mess, they should've really optimized power consumption some more.
Under load you can chalk up as simply "the characteristics of whatever has been put on the SSD", but the asinine idle power consumption hints at a rush to market.
It kind of looks like the drive is idling at 60-70°C...
Let's hope a FW update can address this, otherwise this is an "avoid unless stupidly cheap".
 
Is the first Gen5 Innogrit contoller you've tested? IIRC the gen4 Innogrit drives were pretty good all-rounders.

This IG5666 seems hot and hungry like the Phison E26, which is on my avoid list for being too hot and power-hungry, unsurprisingly :D
 
They only have IG5666 with Gen 5, this is my third drive with it, previously I tested GE Pro and Legend 970, which is basically all drives that exist on the market: https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/?f=ctl~ctlmfgr_InnoGrit~intrf_PCIe+5.0+x4
Ah yes, I forgot about TPU's SSD Specs database. I know you don't add duplicate NAND/controller combinations in the comparison tests to keep the results (and presumably testing) manageable.

@GabrielLP14, how easy would it be to link to @W1zzard's SSD review for models in the database like TPU's GPU database does? It's only a suggestion but I think it would be useful if it's a low-effort addition. I for one would definitely appreciate it!
 
The Innogrit IG5666 is produced using a 12 nm process
I think the problem is that they are using an old process technology.
 
I think the problem is that they are using an old process technology.
The other Gen5 drives aren't faring much better. I have yet to see one that draws less than an average Gen4 drive.
This one is topping ALL ZE CHARTS.
 
The other Gen5 drives aren't faring much better. I have yet to see one that draws less than an average Gen4 drive.
This one is topping ALL ZE CHARTS.
If you move twice the data, what relative power increase do you expect?
 
It's nice for a change to see a m2 nvme with dedicated DRAM again.
 
Power consumption is rubbish. The SLC cache is reasonable relative to others overall, but disappointing we do have more of a 2:1 ratio on SLC cache at this point. At least from a contextual standpoint it's of little consequence because no one under normal circumstances is writing 1TB's of data at a time in typical usage. From that perspective the SLC cache is already more robust than really required for normal use. The random I/O results were at least a positive note. It's not worth the premium though overall. This would be a cool drive to re-test in a Gen 4 M.2 slot and just seeing slotting it in a Gen 4 slot actually does overall to performance, power draw, and temperature. It's clearly throttling and draws a hefty bit of power so seeing how to behaves and functions in a Gen 4 slot would be neat. You can treat it a bit like looking at a GPU's PCIE scaling for M.2 storage.
 
@GabrielLP14, how easy would it be to link to @W1zzard's SSD review for models in the database like TPU's GPU database does? It's only a suggestion but I think it would be useful if it's a low-effort addition. I for one would definitely appreciate it!
It's there:
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(the example is Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB with Pascal controller and V7 NAND; two other variants of the same model exists but they don't have links to a TPU review)

New SSD reviews don't just automatically have the link added, but Gabriel keeps the database pretty well updated.

@W1zzard , could you somehow indicate (in the specifications list or in the text) what you actually found in the manufacturer's specification versus what you discovered after removing the label? In the case of the GC Pro, TLC flash isn't specified by Team Group, so there's a considerable chance it will be switched to QLC one day (when faster QLC flash becomes available).

A funny note: they don't even mention 3D like everybody else... perhaps they can sneak in some planar NAND without us knowing?
 
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what you actually found in the manufacturer's specification versus what you discovered after removing the label
I don't think anyone specifies things properly these days, so no point.
 
I don't think anyone specifies things properly these days, so no point.
More and more PC hardware is coming with increasingly vague and useless specs. I guess the more useless the official specifications are, the less chance anyone has of successfully landing a lawsuit for false advertising or bait-and-switch.
 
The SLC cache is reasonable relative to others overall, but disappointing we do have more of a 2:1 ratio on SLC cache at this point.
What do you mean? Would you prefer the SLC cache to be larger (which is impossible) or smaller?

Also look at both the SLC size and sustained speed. This SSD is near the top in both. No other SSD is (save for the KC3000). There's some trade-off between these two quantities, to no surprise. A larger cache means that more data must be moved from SLC to TLC (when everything is pushed to the limit in benchmarking).

I don't think anyone specifies things properly these days, so no point.
Not always true! The Kingston Fury G5 is a good example, with TLC flash, endurance and SM2508 controller in the specs.
 
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Ah yes, I forgot about TPU's SSD Specs database. I know you don't add duplicate NAND/controller combinations in the comparison tests to keep the results (and presumably testing) manageable.

@GabrielLP14, how easy would it be to link to @W1zzard's SSD review for models in the database like TPU's GPU database does? It's only a suggestion but I think it would be useful if it's a low-effort addition. I for one would definitely appreciate it!
super easy most i have attached already, will fix the reast :D
 
What do you mean? Would you prefer the SLC cache to be larger (which is impossible) or smaller?

Also look at both the SLC size and sustained speed. This SSD is near the top in both. No other SSD is (save for the KC3000). There's some trade-off between these two quantities, to no surprise. A larger cache means that more data must be moved from SLC to TLC (when everything is pushed to the limit in benchmarking).


Not always true! The Kingston Fury G5 is a good example, with TLC flash, endurance and SM2508 controller in the specs.
Was kind of a nitpick about the cache it probably doesn't matter much in reality and apparently impossible at least currently. I was talking about the cache to storage ratio being more like 1:2 or I had meant 1:2 not 2:1 which a notable difference. Basically it would be nice if drives would start to more like cache half the storage space available it would at least then be a bit more predictable on where drop off occurs and not so early.

The sequential was reasonable, but there were handful of better drives at sequential as well. The bigger issue was the power draw and temps weren't very appealing coupled with the price premium for a Gen 5 drive in right now makes it kind of unfavorable on value for dollar.
 
If you move twice the data, what relative power increase do you expect?
Let's compare Teamgroup's latest Gen5 GC Pro power hog to the Kingston KC3000:
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Where is twice? They have virtually identical performance. It is so close that you won't be able to tell the difference.

Now let's look at sustained writes:
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That's 13%, not twice.

It's pathetic if we consider the advantages Teamgroup has had.
First of all, the Kingston drive is 4 years older.
Then Teamgroup has faster DRAM (DDR4-3200 vs DDR4-2666) and more modern NAND featuring only 4 chips @ 232 layers whereas Kingston still needed 8 chips because it only has 176 layers. Shouldn't modern NAND draw less? Especially if you halve the number of chips required to reach 2TB?

The Innogrit IG5666 controller is still made in 12nm TSMC. Why? Kingston's old Phison E18 already boasted 12nm. But that was 4 years ago.

Then there are areas where the GC Pro power hog loses against the old Gen4 drive:
TBW: Teamgroup only offers 1200 TBW vs Kingston's 1600 TBW.
Usable Space: Teamgroup only gives you 1863GB whereas Kingston gives you 1907GB.

If you combine all the possible advances that have been made during the last four years like fast low-power DRAM, high-density low-power 3D-NAND with way more layers and better manufacturing nodes for the controller - why do Gen5 drives suck that hard?
 
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@GabrielLP14

Looking at the company's web pages, I think I've decoded the confusion they created: the company name is Team Group Inc., and the brand names for their products are TEAMGROUP, T-FORCE and T-CREATE. You may need to change "Teamgroup" in your database to at least be in sync with W1zz, who consistently uses "Team Group" in his reviews.
 
Power usage out of control regardless of temps. But of course factoring in temps, its a joke of an SSD.
 
12W for a single storage device is out of control yes, especially for a product aimed at consumers.
 
12W for a single storage device is out of control yes, especially for a product aimed at consumers.
Compared 10W and 8W? I mean it's not great, but active cooling is a thing and the price is generally less than comparable performing drives. If the motherboard you have already has a cooler for it, then it's not a bad deal.. Like mine. It's got a heatplate and active cooling. My existing drive is an enterprise drive that gets fairly warm as well. 12W is not going to be a challenge.

$380 for 4TB with DRAM? That's worthy of a moments consideration.
 
Compared to 1-2 watts, which is where nand needs to be, no moving parts. Gen4 is higher but not at these levels. The reported idle has no excuse, it doesnt need to run at those power levels at idle.
 
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