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Request for advice [Big Build]

Are you done being a jerk and picking fights? News flash, that very graph shows VERY clearly that the recommendation is NOT the same as a requirement. It also conveniently shows what I just said above. Tada...


The system builder that the OP is buying from. I don't see a problem. 1000w is just fine.
I didn't see the link to the system builder but they should offer a 1200W psu.

Europeans are a trip. A lot of European build threads on the sites I post on start like this:

1st post: I have a €2000 budget and I want a gaming build with monitor (example budget).
2nd post: What country are you located?
3rd post: I'm located in Europe.
4th post: What country in Europe?
5th post: I'm located in the EU.
6th post: The EU isn't a country nor is Europe. Now which country on this map do you reside in?

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I didn't see the link to the system builder but they should offer a 12000W psu.


Europeans are a trip. A lot of European build threads on the sites I post on start like this:

1st post: I have a €2000 budget and I want a gaming build with monitor (example budget).
2nd post: What country are you located?
3rd post: I'm located in Europe.
4th post: What country in Europe?
5th post: I'm located in the EU.
6th post: The EU isn't a country nor is Europe. Now which country on this map do you reside in?

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I think you mean 1200 not 12000 W lol, but yes.
 
12000W psu.
12,000W? Woah baby! That's a lot of watts! :laugh:

What you said above? That only Furmark would draw 600 W? That wrong statement?
There's you once again showing your inability to conjugate context. :rolleyes:
You seriously think a GPU that draws 650 W on its own should be paired with a 1000 W PSU in a build with a $5000 budget? Wow.

Blackwell, like previous architectures, is power limited, so where possible the GPU will bump up against its power limit. Hence the pros of AIB models with greater power limit adjustabilities.

Obviously at 600 W the 5090 can't be adjusted up, because 600+75 slot power means it's already maxed out for a single 12V-2x6.
That inability to understand real world scenario's? Yeah, you should see to that.

I'm not selling the system the OP is seeking input about, but the PSU of choice is an excellent model and will be fine for the system in question, even with a 9950X CPU.
 
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12,000W? Woah baby! That's a lot of watts! :laugh:


There's you once again showing your inability to conjugate context. :rolleyes:

That inability to understand real world scenario's? Yeah, you should see to that.

I'm not selling the system the OP is seeking input about, but the PSU of choice is an excellent model and will be fine for the system in question, even with a 9950X CPU.
When you play games on Steam do you also do so on a "minimum recommended" spec PC? Because that's what is stated to work right? Is that spec what you'd also recommend to someone with a $5000 budget? Like your 1000 W PSU recommendation which also ticks the "minimum" box as tested by TPU?

OP, get the 1200 W PSU or a better one and enjoy the system.

As a joke -

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When you play games on Steam do you also do so on a "minimum recommended" spec PC? Because that's what is stated to work right? Is that spec what you'd also recommend to someone with a $5000 budget? Like your 1000 W PSU recommendation which also ticks the "minimum" box as tested by TPU?

OP, get the 1200 W PSU or a better one and enjoy the system.

As a joke -

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Really?
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this card alone casually consumes 600w of power while gaming
while having momentary power spikes of up to almost 700w .
this is a $5 000+ system , what are we even discussing here ?!

good 1 200w gold unit would be my minimum recommendation for such a system .
as pointed out this is not the component to save those $50-100 at .
power supply operates best at 50-60% of its rated capacity under load .
there are plenty of good 1200W units for $200-250 out there (even $300 should be no problem considering the gpu alone costs 3,5-4K)
this logic of maxing out on video card and than trying to justify saving 50 bucks on power supply for the sake of 200-300w difference always cracks me up ...

for example Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1350 W 80+ Gold is perfectly adequate and it doesn´t cost the fortune .
and there are other good examples like CORE REACTOR II 1200W , MONTECH TITAN GOLD 1200W
and other decent units all priced well below $300
 
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If the OP hasn't run away in terror at the battle of egos in here, I'd be amazed; New member asks a question and you two turn the thread into a fight, again.

Is an RMe1000 enough? Possibly. Probably.
Is it what I'd personally use for a 5090 on a €5000 budget? Hell no, but that's just my opinion.
 
If the OP hasn't run away in terror at the battle of egos in here, I'd be amazed; New member asks a question and you two turn the thread into a fight, again.

Is an RMe1000 enough? Possibly. Probably.
Is it what I'd personally use for a 5090 on a €5000 budget? Hell no, but that's just my opinion.
A little conflict when presenting facts is normal, not something to be afraid of.
 
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A little conflict when presenting facts is normal, not something to be afraid of.
"But, I am not afraid" - Luke to Yoda

"Grumble, hummmmm......you will be, you....WILL....be !" - Yoda to Luke
 
Hello guys

Thank you again for all your advices…

Yeah I live in France atm.

I wanted to let you know that I ordered the PC yesterday.

Here's the build :

CASE : be quiet! Light Base 900 FX
CPU : AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
AIO : Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro 360
MB : MSI Pro X870-P WIFI
RAM : 64Go DDR5 RAM 6000 MHz Kingston FURY Beast
GPU : RTX 5090 MSI Gaming Trio OC
SSD : WD Black SN850X 2000 GB
PSU : SQ-Power - SQ-GOLD Silent - 1200W Fully Modulable- 80 PLUS Gold

It cost us $5040 / 4460 (Inclu’ Delivery)


I'm worried because the PSU indicates ATX 3.0
I’ve been doing some research, and damnit I can’t find any review about this fookin PSU…
Form factor : ATX12V Ver.3.0 / System bus connector 20+4 Pin
On top of that, its price is only 101 € (it’s on promotion on the website) but still, it looks strange, no ?

Should I quickly contact them to change it ? Should I only buy ATX 3.1 PSU's or is 3.0 adequate for RTX 5090 GPU ? Idk i think I made a mistake, haha… :peace:
 
yes its bad !



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Get a decent well know brand:- Seasonic,Coolermaster,be-quiet,etc 10+ year warranty at least.
 
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The real problem is that there isn't that much PSUs choice on the website...

Among the PSUs offering more than 1000W, I only have these choices :

- Inter-Tech Sama-FTX Forza - 1200W 80 PLUS Platinum : 122,92 € (but I'm wary about this one...)

Everything else is be quiet!

- be quiet! Dark Power 13 - 1000W 80 PLUS Titanium *PROMOTION* : 219,73 €
OR
- be quiet! Dark Power Pro 13 - 1600W 80 PLUS Titanium : 412,34 €

Should I take be quiet! Dark Power 13 ? :eek:
 
You don´t care now but shortly before the warranty expires you´ll question the choice sticking the most expensive gaming-gpu on this planet/universe behind a sub-par psu.

Clean and constant power delivery is the best way to prolong a GPUs life.

So looking at the spec of the 1000w bequiet one:

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are the 1200w ones really better?



Out of curiosity:
how much would 2x16Gb ram cost compared to 2x32?

If it is a gaming-only rig there is not much gained using 64Gb instead of 32Gb.
But that upgrade, bought at a SI, must be horrendously expensive, no?

I suggest saving money picking only 32Gb ram.



Want to safe more money?

Buy the cheapest ram they let you choose. 8Gb if possible.
Go out and buy ram on the free market.

Only ram that is a) AND b):

a) on the motherboard manufacturers QVL list
b) the ram manufacturers approved motherboard list
 
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The real problem is that there isn't that much PSUs choice on the website...

Among the PSUs offering more than 1000W, I only have these choices :

- Inter-Tech Sama-FTX Forza - 1200W 80 PLUS Platinum : 122,92 € (but I'm wary about this one...)

Everything else is be quiet!

- be quiet! Dark Power 13 - 1000W 80 PLUS Titanium *PROMOTION* : 219,73 €
OR
- be quiet! Dark Power Pro 13 - 1600W 80 PLUS Titanium : 412,34 €

Should I take be quiet! Dark Power 13 ? :eek:

Feedback from an RTX 5090 owner:

1. A 1000 W power supply is to be considered the bare minimum and will be running at full capacity with the Ryzen 7 9800X3D. I am not comfortable recommending one should you opt for the 9950X3D or high-end Intel processor (13th or 14th Gen i7/i9 or Ultra 9). Do yourself a favor and buy the larger unit if you can afford it. That 1600 W Dark Power is one of the strongest and most efficient PSUs in the market, if you can afford it, buy it. It will run the 5090 and your future GPUs with ease.

2. It is not necessary to resort to synthetics to run an RTX 5090 against its power limit. It can and will chug that much power. Even games that don't max it out and run comfortably on it will run the card into the 450 W range. It is very, very power hungry. Reminds me of AMD Grenada GPUs (R9 390X). At least it has the performance to match, it's... incredibly fast. The >2x RX 9070 performance figures aren't a lie, nor are the 1.9x 9070 XT/5070 Ti figures.

3. ATX version is irrelevant. I'm running mine on an ATX 2.3 power supply, using a tailored cable that uses three of the six power output connectors PSU-side and turns that into one 12VHPWR cable on the other side. To compliment point 1, while my power supply is in the adequate range, I don't think it has ever worked this hard in its life. I would like to reinforce my advice to buy the 1600 W model, if at all possible.

4. The 9950X3D is better. If you are only gaming, the 9800X3D will do. Keep in mind that the Ryzen 9 will require manual setting of processor affinity in some cases, due to the processor's topology. This won't be a problem with the 9800X3D or with an Intel processor (Intel chips have hardware feedback and even though they are hybrid, will operate correctly without manual input).

5. Avoid the 7900X3D and 9900X3D CPUs. They are effectively 6+6 core processors are suffer greatly from the issue raised in point 4 - weird topology and not enough cores to fit the tasks (most games and productivity apps need 8 cores to run perfectly, and these can only provide 6 without a performance penalty).

6. Consider shopping around for a higher-end X670E board over the B850. It's a better, more flexible chipset, and you may find some boards at a lower price. All you'll need is a BIOS update, can be done without a supported CPU on motherboards with USB Flashback functionality.
 
The real problem is that there isn't that much PSUs choice on the website...

Among the PSUs offering more than 1000W, I only have these choices :

- Inter-Tech Sama-FTX Forza - 1200W 80 PLUS Platinum : 122,92 € (but I'm wary about this one...)

Everything else is be quiet!

- be quiet! Dark Power 13 - 1000W 80 PLUS Titanium *PROMOTION* : 219,73 €
OR
- be quiet! Dark Power Pro 13 - 1600W 80 PLUS Titanium : 412,34 €

Should I take be quiet! Dark Power 13 ? :eek:
The Dark Power Pro 13 1600W Titanium is about the only decent option there, but it's an expensive PSU, more than you need to spend, but also the only thing you've mentioned so far that is truly suited to the build.

As @Dr. Dro Dro Says, 1000W is really close to the limit. I've not built 5090 workstations yet but I used 1200W PSUs with 3090/5950X builds a few years ago because I watched many different YouTube testers trip out their 1000W PSUs with such a configuration. I suspect a newer 1000W GPU with detuned OCP for transient spikes be okay - but like many of us are saying already, it might work with 1000W, but it's not a good idea as a long-term solution and I'm not comfortable recommending it.

The Inter-Tech Sama is a straight up scam, you are right to be wary. A half-decent 1200W 80 PLUS Gold is typically about €200 and if you want it to be 80 PLUS Platinum then €250 is the starting price. You don't need platinum, you need 1200+ Watts. Nothing truly made to 80 PLUS Platinum standards ever comes with less than 5 years of warranty, usually 7 or 10 years.

Your system is going to draw about 800-900W, with occasional transient spikes well over 1000W. If you buy a 1200W PSU it will be enough for these components and no more. Personally, I like to build in some spare capacity for future upgrades, so a 1500W PSU is about what I would look at if I had your budget for a build. If you're trying to save money, don't do it on the PSU, it's one of the most important components.

IMO, the best way to do that is to shop around for a your 5090. There are vast differences in what people are charging for a 5090, easily +/-€500 because they're scalped to the moon and back and every 5090 I've seen on sale is at least ~€1000 more than it's supposed to be. If your budget is so tight you're trying to save €250 Euros on a PSU, then the 5090 is the wrong graphics card for you. Spend €2500 on a PC with a 5080, and hold that remaining €2500 in a savings account for a 6080 or 6080Super. The 5080 is going to play every game on the market to an incredible standard right now. By the time it starts to struggle, you have €2500 of spare funding to throw at something faster - probably faster than a 5090 by then, too!
 
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You ordered the PC already. I'd swap out the power supply later. There are good supplies out there that won't cost as much as the be quiet 1600W. That's a great PSU, but it is expensive.

Edit: some options:
Straight Power 12 1200W (I have this one, might be biased but price/perf/features is great)
Super Flower Leadex VII XG 1300W (great reviews)
 
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Out of curiosity:
how much would 2x16Gb ram cost compared to 2x32?

If it is a gaming-only rig there is not much gained using 64Gb instead of 32Gb.
But that upgrade, bought at a SI, must be horrendously expensive, no?

I suggest saving money picking only 32Gb ram.
100% this ^^

There is no need for 48/64gb for gaming ATM. 32gb is more than enough!

My advice is take 32gb and use the money on better cooling, better PSU, better MoBo. Adding RAM in the future is the easiest thing to do, therefore the least of your worry RN.

On the other side, you'll cheap on a PSU only once and you'll never do it again for the reset of your life. Trust me, I did it.
 
Out of curiosity:
how much would 2x16Gb ram cost compared to 2x32?

If it is a gaming-only rig there is not much gained using 64Gb instead of 32Gb.
But that upgrade, bought at a SI, must be horrendously expensive, no?

I suggest saving money picking only 32Gb ram.



Want to safe more money?

Buy the cheapest ram they let you choose. 8Gb if possible.
Go out and buy ram on the free market.

Only ram that is a) AND b):

a) on the motherboard manufacturers QVL list
b) the ram manufacturers approved motherboard list

I originally built this PC with 2x 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB (152 €). Then after following a few tips here & elsewhere I decided to switch to 2x 32GB Kingston FURY Beast RGB (222 €).
Who knows, maybe in the future I’ll go back to music, or maybe one of us will do video editing... This upgrade is not so expensive.

You're right, I should have built this PC with the cheapest RAM, then buying a better one on the free market.

Feedback from an RTX 5090 owner:

1. A 1000 W power supply is to be considered the bare minimum and will be running at full capacity with the Ryzen 7 9800X3D. I am not comfortable recommending one should you opt for the 9950X3D or high-end Intel processor (13th or 14th Gen i7/i9 or Ultra 9). Do yourself a favor and buy the larger unit if you can afford it. That 1600 W Dark Power is one of the strongest and most efficient PSUs in the market, if you can afford it, buy it. It will run the 5090 and your future GPUs with ease.

2. It is not necessary to resort to synthetics to run an RTX 5090 against its power limit. It can and will chug that much power. Even games that don't max it out and run comfortably on it will run the card into the 450 W range. It is very, very power hungry. Reminds me of AMD Grenada GPUs (R9 390X). At least it has the performance to match, it's... incredibly fast. The >2x RX 9070 performance figures aren't a lie, nor are the 1.9x 9070 XT/5070 Ti figures.

3. ATX version is irrelevant. I'm running mine on an ATX 2.3 power supply, using a tailored cable that uses three of the six power output connectors PSU-side and turns that into one 12VHPWR cable on the other side. To compliment point 1, while my power supply is in the adequate range, I don't think it has ever worked this hard in its life. I would like to reinforce my advice to buy the 1600 W model, if at all possible.

4. The 9950X3D is better. If you are only gaming, the 9800X3D will do. Keep in mind that the Ryzen 9 will require manual setting of processor affinity in some cases, due to the processor's topology. This won't be a problem with the 9800X3D or with an Intel processor (Intel chips have hardware feedback and even though they are hybrid, will operate correctly without manual input).

5. Avoid the 7900X3D and 9900X3D CPUs. They are effectively 6+6 core processors are suffer greatly from the issue raised in point 4 - weird topology and not enough cores to fit the tasks (most games and productivity apps need 8 cores to run perfectly, and these can only provide 6 without a performance penalty).

6. Consider shopping around for a higher-end X670E board over the B850. It's a better, more flexible chipset, and you may find some boards at a lower price. All you'll need is a BIOS update, can be done without a supported CPU on motherboards with USB Flashback functionality.

Ok, I contacted the site to get the 1600 W. We'll see..
Regarding the CPU, I think the 9800X3D will be more than enough for me.
I had heard a lot about what you mentioned in your 6th point. I'll keep that in mind, many thanks.

The Dark Power Pro 13 1600W Titanium is about the only decent option there, but it's an expensive PSU, more than you need to spend, but also the only thing you've mentioned so far that is truly suited to the build.

As @Dr. Dro Dro Says, 1000W is really close to the limit. I've not built 5090 workstations yet but I used 1200W PSUs with 3090/5950X builds a few years ago because I watched many different YouTube testers trip out their 1000W PSUs with such a configuration. I suspect a newer 1000W GPU with detuned OCP for transient spikes be okay - but like many of us are saying already, it might work with 1000W, but it's not a good idea as a long-term solution and I'm not comfortable recommending it.

The Inter-Tech Sama is a straight up scam, you are right to be wary. A half-decent 1200W 80 PLUS Gold is typically about €200 and if you want it to be 80 PLUS Platinum then €250 is the starting price. You don't need platinum, you need 1200+ Watts. Nothing truly made to 80 PLUS Platinum standards ever comes with less than 5 years of warranty, usually 7 or 10 years.

Your system is going to draw about 800-900W, with occasional transient spikes well over 1000W. If you buy a 1200W PSU it will be enough for these components and no more. Personally, I like to build in some spare capacity for future upgrades, so a 1500W PSU is about what I would look at if I had your budget for a build. If you're trying to save money, don't do it on the PSU, it's one of the most important components.

IMO, the best way to do that is to shop around for a your 5090. There are vast differences in what people are charging for a 5090, easily +/-€500 because they're scalped to the moon and back and every 5090 I've seen on sale is at least ~€1000 more than it's supposed to be. If your budget is so tight you're trying to save €250 Euros on a PSU, then the 5090 is the wrong graphics card for you. Spend €2500 on a PC with a 5080, and hold that remaining €2500 in a savings account for a 6080 or 6080Super. The 5080 is going to play every game on the market to an incredible standard right now. By the time it starts to struggle, you have €2500 of spare funding to throw at something faster - probably faster than a 5090 by then, too!

I underestimated the importance of power supply in this build.
I was taken in by the price of the promotion, without doing much research... It's stupid.

You ordered the PC already. I'd swap out the power supply later. There are good supplies out there that won't cost as much as the be quiet 1600W. That's a great PSU, but it is expensive.

Edit: some options:
Straight Power 12 1200W (I have this one, might be biased but price/perf/features is great)
Super Flower Leadex VII XG 1300W (great reviews)

Yes, that's what I will do if my change request cannot be accepted by the website.
I take note of your suggestions, thank you !
 
I would also recommend getting Platinum or Titanium rating PSU for that build.
 
Hello guys

Thank you again for all your advices…

Yeah I live in France atm.

I wanted to let you know that I ordered the PC yesterday.

Here's the build :

CASE : be quiet! Light Base 900 FX
CPU : AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D
AIO : Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro 360
MB : MSI Pro X870-P WIFI
RAM : 64Go DDR5 RAM 6000 MHz Kingston FURY Beast
GPU : RTX 5090 MSI Gaming Trio OC
SSD : WD Black SN850X 2000 GB
PSU : SQ-Power - SQ-GOLD Silent - 1200W Fully Modulable- 80 PLUS Gold

It cost us $5040 / 4460 (Inclu’ Delivery)


I'm worried because the PSU indicates ATX 3.0
I’ve been doing some research, and damnit I can’t find any review about this fookin PSU…
Form factor : ATX12V Ver.3.0 / System bus connector 20+4 Pin
On top of that, its price is only 101 € (it’s on promotion on the website) but still, it looks strange, no ?

Should I quickly contact them to change it ? Should I only buy ATX 3.1 PSU's or is 3.0 adequate for RTX 5090 GPU ? Idk i think I made a mistake, haha… :peace:
I think you have a winner! Enjoy! You're going to be pushing the pixels like a boss. Rock on! :rockout:
 
You ordered the PC already. I'd swap out the power supply later. There are good supplies out there that won't cost as much as the be quiet 1600W. That's a great PSU, but it is expensive.

Edit: some options:
Straight Power 12 1200W (I have this one, might be biased but price/perf/features is great)
Super Flower Leadex VII XG 1300W (great reviews)
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Total: €204.68
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