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RX 9000 series GPU Owners Club

It's come to my attention that NVIDIA released a better driver which is the one TPU used. Here's the 1% difference you mentioned. 9000 cards are still punching way above their weight.:toast:
So that's why Nvidia users are so hung up on those unmissable driver updates! I get it now. :)
 
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Why bother with all this junk software, when the AMD driver has everything included? :confused:
I'd say it's good to have choices? One could say that adrenalin is junk too. It's heavy, it's slow to load, it have many unwanted feature, user interface ain't user friendly, it's full of telemetry, and it keep resetting your settings when driver crashes.

I respect the fact that you love Adrenalin, but why say that everything else is junk? :confused:
 
I don't like to fixate with one brand, although I usually tend to the underdog because the more competition, the more benefits for the consumer. In that regard, I came form Nvidia (1060, 3060ti, 3080) and my experience is that... they GPUs just work. Simple drivers, very few options off the shelf... You have what you have. From a basic user perspective (I'm not, but when I'm outside work it doesn't hurt not thinking :laugh:) that's a sensible choice. Even more if the GPUs are "better" (or at least that'sthe common preception).

Crossed to the team red because the 9070xt is good enough and the price is not obscene (not "good", not "not too bad". Just not obscene). And because of that, I think AMD deserves an oportunity.
What I found was... complicated. Adrenalin ofers a whole can of worms for a power user. How can you not try to squeeze your GPU till the last drop of performance when you have all the controls just in front of you??
Also, you're not overclocking (dangerous!): you're UNDERVOLTING (safe!). Some parameters are rock solid under heavy load, but crash in older games!! (Subnautica, Vaporum, I'm looking at you :mad:)

Profiling your 9070 is a game on its own...

Is it better to have options?
Well... if EVERYTING worked fine, sure! And as far as I have experienced with Adrenalin, it works fine if you don't touch the Tuning tab.

So my evaluation is quite positive. On even grounds I'd say the AMD offer is a bit over Nvidia for gaming, although Nvidia has the upper hand in terms of optimization and compatibility. And that makes me a happy consumer waiting for the next generation. I really really hope an open war between AMD and Nvidia for the GPU space, just like the war between AMD and Intel in the desktop CPU area brought us some nice toys.
 
I'd say it's good to have choices? One could say that adrenalin is junk too. It's heavy, it's slow to load, it have many unwanted feature, user interface ain't user friendly, it's full of telemetry, and it keep resetting your settings when driver crashes.
Telemetry can be disabled. The rest is up to your preference. I don't mind Adrenalin's UI at all. I actually find it a lot more convenient than MSI Afterburner's circular thing, for example.

I respect the fact that you love Adrenalin, but why say that everything else is junk? :confused:
That's my opinion. I don't like bloating my OS with extra software that does things that are included in the driver. Less is more.
Besides, the more software you have installed controlling the same hardware-related thing, the more chance there is that they'll conflict each other.

I don't like to fixate with one brand, although I usually tend to the underdog because the more competition, the more benefits for the consumer. In that regard, I came form Nvidia (1060, 3060ti, 3080) and my experience is that... they GPUs just work. Simple drivers, very few options off the shelf... You have what you have. From a basic user perspective (I'm not, but when I'm outside work it doesn't hurt not thinking :laugh:) that's a sensible choice. Even more if the GPUs are "better" (or at least that'sthe common preception).
1. By simple, you mean outdated? You're absolutely right.
2. If you like simplicity, just tick "minimal install" during the Adrenalin installation.

Nvidia has the upper hand in terms of optimization and compatibility.
Have you had a look at the sheer number of hotfixes Nvidia has been pushing out since the 50-series launch? Even the RX 7000 launch was a smooth ride compared to that.

Not to deter anyone from buying Nvidia, but one has to acknowledge how botched the 50-series is. There is no upper hand anymore unless you want 5090-level performance.
 
Well... if EVERYTING worked fine, sure! And as far as I have experienced with Adrenalin, it works fine if you don't touch the Tuning tab.
If... I've had even problems with stock adrenaline, it was resetting stock settings xD
But in cachyos I've got corectrl.
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It has everything I need, and in linux 9070xt is more stable for me than in windows 11 -.-
And today I've changed case from some Chinese not as bad, but not enough to Lian Li Lancool 207, and even without fans spinning on gpu the fans from bottom are still controlling vram great, with fans from gpu 50C and only with fans from case 56C :) on browsing internet, so for now it's not 60 like it was without fans outside of the case hanging:)
But some games just don't work that great in Arch distro, cause PoE2 is working only with 75fps, and only on vulkan, dx12 is crashing game not even getting to menu, and on windows I've had 80-100 fps from similar settings.
 
1. By simple, you mean outdated? You're absolutely right.
Outdated... The bloat around the Nvidia driver is just bloat. In Adrenalin you have at least an OC/UV tool. Bloated, but functional. But I have to say I love the option to have Tuning profiles for games.
But for the driver itself, I'd say Nvidia still has the edge. AMD is gaining ground very veeeery fast, but at the current state I think DLSS4 is still better than FSR4 for a slight margin.
2. If you like simplicity, just tick "minimal install" during the Adrenalin installation.
I don't dislike it. But if you don't ask for it, if you don't go to the performance tab, if you're a basic user (and let's be realistic: that's the majority of the consumer base), you gain nothing with all the options. And things like not warning consumers that if you don't change the refresh rate in windows you'll have a 60Hz monitor in big, ENORMOUS neon glowing letters because retarded users like me will have an aneurysm asking themselves why the F*** vsync is capped at 60fps, is not on AMD benefit.
Just work implies EVERYTHING just work. In that regard, I'd say Nvidia for the older generations (Ampere and Ada, for example) is like Apple, while AMD is like Linux: Everything works... if you configure it right.
Have you had a look at the sheer number of hotfixes Nvidia has been pushing out since the 50-series launch? Even the RX 7000 launch was a smooth ride compared to that.

Not to deter anyone from buying Nvidia, but one has to acknowledge how botched the 50-series is. There is no upper hand anymore unless you want 5090-level performance.
Of course, Nvidia is currently swimming on problems. What I said doesn't apply to the Blackwell generation. Their situation now reminds me to Intel and the 14900 clusterfuck, and maybe for the same reasons: you have an anchitecture that works, and you streeeeeech it to the limit.
 
I don't like bloating my OS with extra software that does things that are included in the driver. Less is more.
That's exactly the point. Adrenalin is just that, an extra software that bloat your OS. Adrenaline ain't the driver, it's a control center, it's not required to play your games. I decided not to install adrenalin and go with something way lighter like MCT that does exactly what I need and nothing more.

Besides, the more software you have installed controlling the same hardware-related thing, the more chance there is that they'll conflict each other.
Adrenalin and MCT can't conflict because they both use the same backend to do their things. When you change a setting using MCT, adrenalin automatically update to show the values you punched in MCT. And I don't install Adrenain in the first place, so how could there be in conflict? :D

Anyway, the goal ain't to convince you that my way is better, I was compeled to argue when I reeded "these are junk" as I'm software developer myself and I think no software are junk unless it's made to do bad things on purpose. I suggest we move on.

If... I've had even problems with stock adrenaline, it was resetting stock settings xD
But in cachyos I've got corectrl.
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It has everything I need, and in linux 9070xt is more stable for me than in windows 11 -.-
And today I've changed case from some Chinese not as bad, but not enough to Lian Li Lancool 207, and even without fans spinning on gpu the fans from bottom are still controlling vram great, with fans from gpu 50C and only with fans from case 56C :) on browsing internet, so for now it's not 60 like it was without fans outside of the case hanging:)
But some games just don't work that great in Arch distro, cause PoE2 is working only with 75fps, and only on vulkan, dx12 is crashing game not even getting to menu, and on windows I've had 80-100 fps from similar settings.
I miss CoreCtrl so much! It is soo good! My 6750XT overclocked way better on linux than it did on Windows! When I cameback on Windows I punched my CoreCtrl settings into Adrenalin and I had a very bad surprise! :D
 
I miss CoreCtrl so much! It is soo good! My 6750XT overclocked way better on linux than it did on Windows! When I cameback on Windows I punched my CoreCtrl settings into Adrenalin and I had a very bad surprise! :D

I'm testing -80, -90, -100 mV, and -100 don't even start Path of Exile 2, -90 is working well but when there is to much on screen it shatters and locks screen, and -80 for now works flawlessly. But we will see ^^
on windows even -30 was sometimes problematic -.-
 
That's exactly the point. Adrenalin is just that, an extra software that bloat your OS. Adrenaline ain't the driver, it's a control center, it's not required to play your games. I decided not to install adrenalin and go with something way lighter like MCT that does exactly what I need and nothing more.
Adrenalin lets you configure everything GPU-related, all the extras AMD has, like anti-lag and stuff. Since that's the case, I might as well use it for everything else, too. If you don't need that, fair enough.

Adrenalin and MCT can't conflict because they both use the same backend to do their things. When you change a setting using MCT, adrenalin automatically update to show the values you punched in MCT. And I don't install Adrenain in the first place, so how could there be in conflict? :D
Fair enough. :)
 
It's come to my attention that NVIDIA released a better driver which is the one TPU used. Here's the 1% difference you mentioned. 9000 cards are still punching way above their weight.:toast:
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Does it support FSR 4? Interesting if Id are one of these partners to be announced at Computex, Remedy also. Ray reconstruction would also be a nice surprise.

I've notived very faint flicker too while VRR is on. For example, if I browse a web page with animations on it, there is some light "glitch". I think it's because Windows is very bad to determine what should and shouldn't be variable. I have an fps counter on my TV and I can see the fps dips. It goes from anywhere between 50 and 144 rapidly and constantly.

To fix this, I manually add the application in Adrenalin like if it's a game and I turn off FreeSync. I do it for my browser and also for Adrenalin itself because I can see flicker in it when I scroll.
Does this happen if you have you refresh rate set to the default in Windows rather than the monitor max refresh rate?
 
Does it support FSR 4? Interesting if Id are one of these partners to be announced at Computex, Remedy also. Ray reconstruction would also be a nice surprise.
FSR 4 is currently unsupported in Vulkan games unfortunately. If they partnered, AMD would at least need to have that support ready. Though Doom plans to work with NVIDIA already to include to path tracing.

Remedy would be nice but I'm honestly more excited about Crimson Desert and their partnership with Pearl Abyss. The fact they're already making that game with RDNA 4 in mind should bring promising performance.
 
FSR 4 is currently unsupported in Vulkan games unfortunately. If they partnered, AMD would at least need to have that support ready. Though Doom plans to work with NVIDIA already to include to path tracing.

Remedy would be nice but I'm honestly more excited about Crimson Desert and their partnership with Pearl Abyss. The fact they're already making that game with RDNA 4 in mind should bring promising performance.
Presumably it will (should) happen at some point if they've already mentioned path tracing in the same breath as RDNA 4. Might also make for a nice performance uptick in something like Star Citizen.

Yea, certainly be interesting to see RDNA 4 spread its wings!
 
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I have new card :) again...
... the fan died on the open box RTX5070ti and it was buy back or up to a month of turn around, and there was this discounted RX9070 available enabling significant savings!

RX9070 Powercolor Hellhound, Samsung memory, undervolts to -100 (maybe 125), vram is happy at 2750 (probably more) AND most importantly the card is almost silent.
It is by far the most silent card I have ever owned with a fan on it.
 
Hey include me in the list for 9070 as well :)

Purchase DateUserBrandModelVRAM BrandStorePriceVATCountry
07/Apr/2025TsunamiWorksSapphireNitro+HynixEGS.lk€789IncludedSri Lanka
 
OI!

Alphacool!

Were are my Waterblocks???

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I hear ya. I've been waiting almost two weeks for Amazon to ship my Powercolor Hellhound 9070xt. During that time I thought no sweat, I'll find and order a block and be gtg when the card gets here. You know like every new release in human friggin history. Blocks come out right afterwards. Then I find that the only ones making a block are Alphacool? With a single block...you gotta be kiddin me. Not to mention, the Taichi 9070xt is impossible to find for less than 1k!

I hate thinking I'm going to be running my loop all jacked up CPU only for who knows how long. Not even Byski or Barrow have any blocks. This is just wrong.
 
I hear ya. I've been waiting almost two weeks for Amazon to ship my Powercolor Hellhound 9070xt. During that time I thought no sweat, I'll find and order a block and be gtg when the card gets here. You know like every new release in human friggin history. Blocks come out right afterwards. Then I find that the only ones making a block are Alphacool? With a single block...you gotta be kiddin me. Not to mention, the Taichi 9070xt is impossible to find for less than 1k!

I hate thinking I'm going to be running my loop all jacked up CPU only for who knows how long. Not even Byski or Barrow have any blocks. This is just wrong.

Weird the only card I can see a WB for is the Asrock Taichi card: https://shop.alphacool.com/en/shop/...phacool-core-rx-9070-xt-taichi-with-backplate
 
like anti-lag and stuff.
For the sake of accuracy only. Yes, it's ugly, but it's also just 4MB.

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Does this happen if you have you refresh rate set to the default in Windows rather than the monitor max refresh rate?
I wanted to make a quick check, but I now notice that the problem has vanished. Could driver 25.5.1 have fixed this issue?
 
@Psychoholic, @LittleBro and @TsunamiWorks you've been added to the list, welcome aboard!!! :toast:

Great to see more cards joining the club! I hope you're all enjoying them and that everything's running within spec.

Just a quick note for future members, to keep things easy on both ends, please tag me with my nickname and include your specs when you'd like to be added. That way it's easier for me to spot new entries and make sure nobody gets missed. I'll update the first port as well with this info. Thanks for your cooperation!

@H82LUZ73 do you want to add more details? If not, I'll add you with just the card details but the rest on Unknown, you tell me, up to you! :)
 
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Weird the only card I can see a WB for is the Asrock Taichi card: https://shop.alphacool.com/en/shop/...phacool-core-rx-9070-xt-taichi-with-backplate
Yeah, it's a drag right now. I just heard that Alphacool has plans for a ton of 9070xt blocks but they are so backed up they don't know when they will be releasing them. So I guess there's hope...kinda.

EK slipping away into the ether left a huge hole as far as competition for early releases goes. Nobody is in any kind of hurry to beat the other guys to market now.

I despise their business practices but I miss the way they lit a fire under the other companies to try to keep up with them.
 
@SirKeldon I'm in the UK, bought my RX 9070 Pulse for £577.98 on the 26th of April from overclockers.co.uk. Got Hynix VRAM on mine.

I have modded my card a bit, adding a header for hooking up to an EVC2SE as well as bridging the current sense amplifiers such that I have no power limit. I've seen 3350MHz core in benchmarks, and I feel that I could probably push 3400MHz with a bit more tuning. VRAM's at 2760MHz before ECC kicks in and I start losing score.
 
As expected I notice little to no difference in performance over my 7900xtx but, this nitro+ card is quieter, uses less power, and looks much cleaner.
Not a huge fan of the 12Vhpwr cable but it looks nice.. totally hidden.
 
@SirKeldon

Purchase DateUserBrandModelVRAM BrandStorePriceVATCountry
10/Apr/2025ThomasKSapphirePulseHynixTerabyteShopUS$ 629IncludedBrazil
 

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