5060 Ti 8GB DOA

[Rover4444]

Lmfao what is this thread? "8 GB is ok, actually 4GB is okay, hell even 2GB is okay, just turn down the settings!"

We are so cooked.

 

[Sunny and 75]

Lmfao

XD!

7.5 months to go, for the:

12GB 5060 SUPER

 

[Chrispy_]

Swinging back around to the topic, if 2GB and 4GB is enough to play the vast majority of PC game titles currently available, then how is it the 8GB on a card that massively out performs my two older cards is suddenly not enough. How is an 8GB card "DOA" given the overwhelming evidence that it will play 99.5%(ish) of all games available exceptionally well?

People are not thinking objectively when expressing the opinions supporting this idea. They're not seeing the big picture, focusing instead on a handful of examples and are forgetting the market sector these cards are aimed at.

You answered you own question with that post; old games run on old cards - If you're not playing new games you don't need to buy a new graphics card.

The person not thinking objectively here is you - graphics cards at the $400-500 price point are not short-term investments for most people, yet 8GB VRAM is a short-term amount of VRAM. The GTX 980 had 4GB VRAM when games were typically using 1-1.5GB of VRAM at max settings, so its 4GB held up as a good investment for years to come. The 5060Ti 8GB is like releasing a 1GB card in 2014 would have been - barely enough for the games of its day and is not a good investment in the future.

There was a place for 1GB graphics card in the 980's 2014 launch day, but that place was the sub-$100 market.

 

[Sunny and 75]

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[Vayra86]

Exactly. People are focusing too much on the narrative of the idea and not enough on the practical facts of reality.

This is true, and if that's your point, well, okay. Welcome to PC gaming?

But it has nothing to do with the fact an 8GB card in this day and age shouldn't be on your shopping list, unless its <250,- and frankly even that is stretching it.

We're just moving goalposts here. Yes, you can tweak games and get them to run on ancient hardware. Nothing new. Question is, do you want to.

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Yeah I was kinda surprised this is still going. I'm trying to find the door people keep kicking in, but I can't find it
Nothing has changed since page 1. Or last year. Or 2023. 8GB is on the way out and any purchase of a card with it, is not gonna be having any resale value going forward. 2023-2025 hasn't changed that perspective - all we have now is that we're actually IN the moment where those 2023 cards would be up for sale, but they're worth jack shit now and actually long in the tooth for recent games - what I said two years ago, is now reality. Back then it wasn't true. Now we're living it and people are in full cognitive dissonance mode. 'Muh, 4GB is also okay' what the actual fuck hahaha how is this even a talking point in this topic.

 

[ARF]

Lmfao what is this thread? "8 GB is ok, actually 4GB is okay, hell even 2GB is okay, just turn down the settings!"

You will need not only to "turn down settings", you will need to return to Windows XP and Windows 7 in order to run DirectX 9 and DirectX 10.1 games.

We are so cooked.

 

[tugrul_LordOfDrinks]

We dont need vram. Just stream data from ram.

 

[wheresmycar]

We dont need vram. Just stream data from ram.

Why RAM when you can stream it to floppy disks in RAID for scratch drives. We're on to something. Even better, like mobo dimm slots for RAM, drop floppy disk slots on the GPU and bobs your uncle.

These GPU manufacturers are gonna copy this idea... quickly patent it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Right the issue is it's 2 titles NOW

Sure there will be more. And that is the way it's always been for the budget sector of PC's. This is not a new thing, it's not ever going to go away and is not even irritating. It's the way it is. Bemoaning it will never change it.

Nvidia's been doing this since the G80 with a 320MB and 8800GT 256MB (vs the 640/512MB versions), 1060 3GB etc -- the bottom sku in these ram starved gpus always age like milk on a hot day. This one is no different.

Everyone does this and again, it's not new and started way before the GF8000 cards. They started it with the GF2 with the MX cards and so on.. ATI did it, 3DFX did it, Intel did it and still does it, AMD did it and still does it. Are we sensing a theme? It not a bad thing either. These companies are spreading out the product portfolio to reach market sectors of all budget levels. Current economic nonsense aside, it's a thing, it's going anywhere and no amount of complaining is going to change it.

So in the end yes the 5060ti 8GB is DOA/DIW. Really no more necessity to beat this dead horse.

This dead horse keeps getting beaten because some people don't what to leave it alone. The people sharing your opinion don't know how to let it go & simply vote with their wallet and those that are on the other side of the equal sign are not going to let the complaining go unanswered because the budget sector, as well as the rules a factual information decency, deserves defending. So when you lot choose a different course of action and let it go, we will to.

So we're going to keep going in circles like this until you lot get it through your heads that 8GB cards are still a very valid and good choice(even if it's not for you) and a good option for the market, or the mods close the thread..

The 12GB 5060 SUPER (128-bit 3GB memory modules) is coming our way at CES 2026

I'll believe that when I see it. It would be a great option though.

Lmfao what is this thread? "8 GB is ok, actually 4GB is okay, hell even 2GB is okay, just turn down the settings!"

We are so cooked.

You can't present a meritful argument against it because it is factually correct with in the context of it's scope, so you mock. Pedantics.

If you're not playing new games you don't need to buy a new graphics card.

No, but you do if you want to play your older game AND some newer games at better quality and framerates.

Welcome to PC gaming?

Right? I mean seriously, it's like people are asleep at the wheel..

Question is, do you want to.

If I were in a situation where my choice was something I could afford or nothing, I choose what I could afford. The fact is that the 5060ti 8GB is STILL an upgrade from previous gen cards. No one can dispute that, the numbers prove it. So yeah, if that's what I could afford and the option to save more for a later purchase wasn't on the cards, hell yes I would. I can confidently say that because in my younger years this is where I was in life and that is the choice I had made for the parts on offer at the time.

 

[phanbuey]

Sure there will be more. And that is the way it's always been for the budget sector of PC's. This is not a new thing, it's not ever going to go away and is not even irritating. It's the way it is. Bemoaning it will never change it.
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Everyone does this and again, it's not new and started way before the GF8000 cards. They started it with the GF2 with the MX cards and so on.. ATI did it, 3DFX did it, Intel did it and still does it, AMD did it and still does it. Are we sensing a theme? It not a bad thing either. These companies are spreading out the product portfolio to reach market sectors of all budget levels. Current economic nonsense aside, it's a thing, it's going anywhere and no amount of complaining is going to change it.
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So we're going to keep going in circles like this until you lot get it through your heads that 8GB cards are still a very valid and good choice(even if it's not for you) and a good option for the market, or the mods close these

Of course it is going to change it - it’s why they’re not releasing 4gb, 6gb cards in this class. All the tech reviewers and enthusiasts “bemoaning” this card and calling it DOA will hurt its sales among general consumers.

There’s no doubt hw unboxed coverage, other reviewers is softening demand for the 8gb variant- this will lower current prices and also discourage future such releases.

Simple market mechanics. It’s great and necessary for consumers to reject an inferior product. Which - according to TPU poll 70%+ of educated consumers think this is.

After the 8800gt 256mb the 9600gt came out at 512mb…. And after the 1060 3gb there was no 2060 3GB -why? Because after everyone bemoaned them and they sold like crap, Nvidia moved on. This is a product to test the demand vs a 16gb and it’s going to tell Nvidia exactly what it needs to know- we don’t want 8Gb cards anymore.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Of course it is going to change it - it’s why they’re not releasing 4gb, 6gb cards in this class. All the tech reviewers and enthusiasts “bemoaning” this card and calling it DOA will hurt its sales among general consumers.

I'm not saying that 8GB cards won't change I meant the dynamic described will not change.

Because after everyone bemoaned them and they sold like crap, Nvidia moved on.

You got part of that right. NVidia moved on. It had nothing to do with people complaining. They did the engineering and computational work and research and determined that 6GB was a reasonable amount for their budget card offering.

 

[Bomby569]

This is true, and if that's your point, well, okay. Welcome to PC gaming?

But it has nothing to do with the fact an 8GB card in this day and age shouldn't be on your shopping list, unless its <250,- and frankly even that is stretching it.

We're just moving goalposts here. Yes, you can tweak games and get them to run on ancient hardware. Nothing new. Question is, do you want to.

a 5090 costing 3000, is a thing that exists, it's stretching it by a mile, you can do it, but would you want to?

if the 5060 8gb should be <250 to make any sense, shouldn't you use the same argument for all cards, why does it end on the 5060?

a 5060 8gb has a stupid price but i would argue that the 5090 has an ever more absurd price for what it is. Stupid elitism makes people here only look to the absurdity on one of the ends. The 5060 8gb probably won't even play 1080p in 4 years, and a 5090 won't play 4k in 4 years, and they will pay another 4000 for the 6090 or whatever.

 

[phanbuey]

You got part of that right. NVidia moved on. It had nothing to do with people complaining. They did the engineering and computational work and research and determined that 6GB was a reasonable amount for their budget card offering.

If you think biz dev guys staring at a sales graph and deciding against a SKU is “engineering and computational work” then yes, they did that.

Online complaining and word of mouth is insanely important for product sales - it’s why companies spend the amount of money they do on marketing. Especially when 70% of your target market is complaining/ not buying and you have an negative NPS.

^ more general 8Gb sentiment

 

[eidairaman1]

Sure there will be more. And that is the way it's always been for the budget sector of PC's. This is not a new thing, it's not ever going to go away and is not even irritating. It's the way it is. Bemoaning it will never change it.

Everyone does this and again, it's not new and started way before the GF8000 cards. They started it with the GF2 with the MX cards and so on.. ATI did it, 3DFX did it, Intel did it and still does it, AMD did it and still does it. Are we sensing a theme? It not a bad thing either. These companies are spreading out the product portfolio to reach market sectors of all budget levels. Current economic nonsense aside, it's a thing, it's going anywhere and no amount of complaining is going to change it.


This dead horse keeps getting beaten because some people don't what to leave it alone. The people sharing your opinion don't know how to let it go & simply vote with their wallet and those that are on the other side of the equal sign are not going to let the complaining go unanswered because the budget sector, as well as the rules a factual information decency, deserves defending. So when you lot choose a different course of action and let it go, we will to.

So we're going to keep going in circles like this until you lot get it through your heads that 8GB cards are still a very valid and good choice(even if it's not for you) and a good option for the market, or the mods close the thread..


I'll believe that when I see it. It would be a great option though.


You can't present a meritful argument against it because it is factually correct with in the context of it's scope, so you mock. Pedantics.


No, but you do if you want to play your older game AND some newer games at better quality and framerates.


Right? I mean seriously, it's like people are asleep at the wheel..

If I were in a situation where my choice was something I could afford or nothing, I choose what I could afford. The fact is that the 5060ti 8GB is STILL an upgrade from previous gen cards. No one can dispute that, the numbers prove it. So yeah, if that's what I could afford and the option to save more for a later purchase wasn't on the cards, hell yes I would. I can confidently say that because in my younger years this is where I was in life and that is the choice I had made for the parts on offer at the time.

Not at the price point it is currently, so in the end the 5060ti 8gb is DOA/DIW.

 

[Vayra86]

a 5090 costing 3000, is a thing that exists, it's stretching it by a mile, you can do it, but would you want to?

if the 5060 8gb should be <250 to make any sense, shouldn't you use the same argument for all cards, why does it end on the 5060?

a 5060 8gb has a stupid price but i would argue that the 5090 has an ever more absurd price for what it is. Stupid elitism makes people here only look to the absurdity on one of the ends. The 5060 8gb probably won't even play 1080p in 4 years, and a 5090 won't play 4k in 4 years, and they will pay another 4000 for the 6090 or whatever.

What are you saying? That all cards are expensive? No shit sherlock.

We're in the area of the nuance here where we identify the bottom level new release cards that are underspecced for even current day content as bad purchases. Somehow, it seems the key points keep flying over your head and then the rest of the world is stupid to you? The key points are, and please, pay attention this time:

- resale value
- money spent on GPUs over X time of gaming enjoyment
- expectations going in

And on all three key points, buying an x60 or x60ti in this day and age with 8GB is a loss scenario. You're better off buying something slightly more expensive. Why the fuck is 5090 even a talking point in your comment when we're talking for 15 pages about the midrange GPU offerings??? Maybe you need a dictionary and check the word 'context' for a moment. I'll stress it again... this is about the midrange offering and its progress gen-to-gen. This is the mainstream segment, that used to define something at or above console level graphics. Look at it now. Its falling short, and its not pretty. Textures and LOD levels simply not loading or loading far too late is similar to what used to be 'pop-in' way back. Consoles don't have that, and its not like they are faster or anything. That all on its own, even without seeing a single benchmark should be enough. End of discussion. We need something better.

The fact I have to spell this out... what the fuck yo. And relating to your comment... EVEN the 5090 is a better buy at 3K because you can actually sell it when you're bored with it. It'll hold meaningful value 6-7 years from now just fine.

So yeah... comparing x90 to the shithole that is x60 segment and then making the jump to absurdity on both ends?! The only thing people who say 8GB is an abomination in 2025 really want to tell you, is that we should not be accepting this as consumers and if we do, we're just setting ourselves up for yet another gen of arguably even worse products getting released in our very own preferred purchase price segment. That's not elitism, that's common goddamn sense.

And the people defending it because 'this is what we can buy now' .... you're fucking idiots and simply don't get what power you hold as consumer base. Its about time you start using it and stop debating these nonsensical things with the people who do understand how the world is supposed to work. This idiotic idea that your voice is irrelevant because there's a lot of voices not following you is as short sighted as you can get. History is chock full of examples that have shown that the moment people stand up collectively against something they don't like, change happens. Stop being the factor that stops that change from happening with bullshit arguments. Of course Nvidia will try hard to convince you this is all they got for you at this price. Business 101. Doesn't mean its true.

Not at the price point it is currently, so in the end the 5060ti 8gb is DOA/DIW.

Its not even a point of discussion. The topic title was perfect.

If I were in a situation where my choice was something I could afford or nothing, I choose what I could afford. The fact is that the 5060ti 8GB is STILL an upgrade from previous gen cards. No one can dispute that, the numbers prove it. So yeah, if that's what I could afford and the option to save more for a later purchase wasn't on the cards, hell yes I would. I can confidently say that because in my younger years this is where I was in life and that is the choice I had made for the parts on offer at the time.

Absolutely true, and, even so, even in your younger years, if you would have done the math, you'd have known this was a loss scenario. I've been there too, and I've had my share of poor choices over the years, and it was exclusively in the midrange 'on the edge of can/can't do' territory. In that segment, it really does matter what choice you make, and if you have limited budget, that'll hit home twice as hard.

If you like gaming, you'll keep doing it, and you'll keep upgrading, and current x60 is just pulling more money out of your wallet over your gaming years. And on top of that, you're compromising everywhere while actually using said, overpriced, product. Go figure. Its like a double loss.

The bottom line here is really that the current x60's are not in a good place with 8GB, and are a bad purchase EVEN relative to same gen cards somewhat higher up in the stack. The 5060ti 16GB, even at its somewhat higher price point, for example, is already in a better place, giving you a far more consistent experience. Its not only about how high you can pull the graphics slider. Its about just simply having enough hardware resources on tap to run any content you throw at it. Settings come after that - after all, some games you'll really prefer to play at 60+ FPS, others might easily make do with 40. It starts feeling annoying when you are ready to compromise to 40 but you still can't run decent settings because you haven't got the VRAM.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Lmfao what is this thread? "8 GB is ok, actually 4GB is okay, hell even 2GB is okay, just turn down the settings!"

We are so cooked.

The last time I played around with a 2 GB card (a GeForce GTX 690) a few years ago, they were already suffering somewhat. That wasn't to say there were no games you could play, Final Fantasy XV actually worked at low settings quite well, though it relied badly on SLI and since SLI is dead, that card was pretty much dead alongside it. I think if you're playing on a 2-4 GB card, you will have to manage your expectations. With the memory requirements rising as games finally leave the PS4/XB1 generation behind and start to be developed with the PS5/XSX in mind, it's safe to say that if you are buying a midrange product with 8 GB of memory, you should temper your expectations accordingly.

That the 5060/Ti are "expensive", that "midrange products should be able to do full ultra at 1080p full stop", these are just feelings. People are entitled to having these feelings, even if they don't correspond to facts. If that bothers you as a customer, vote with your wallet and refuse to buy. That's the only way you will see change.

IMO: AMD has an opportunity here. Make the 8 GB 9060 XT available for $199 MSRP. I wanna see the deadly backlash against that! Just to prove, it's a marketing and pricing issue first.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Not at the price point it is currently

EVERYTHING is expensive. Your context doesn't apply and has no merit.

so in the end the 5060ti 8gb is DOA/DIW.

No it isn't.

the rest of the world is stupid to you?

Sounds good to me..

- resale value

Nope. Very few people think about reselling when they make a PC part purchase. Most buyers are NOT like us enthusiasts/elites.

- money spent on GPUs over X time of gaming enjoyment

Nope, few people think about that. Again, most buyers are NOT like us enthusiasts/elites.

expectations going in

Ok, you nailed that one.

you'd have known this was a loss scenario

No I wouldn't have. I would have viewed it exactly as it is and as I have.

If you like gaming, you'll keep doing it, and you'll keep upgrading, and current x60 is just pulling more money out of your wallet over your gaming years. And on top of that, you're compromising everywhere while actually using said, overpriced, product. Go figure. Its like a double loss.

The only thing going on in that statement is double-talk. What you just described is everything with PC's ever. Are you joking with that?

 

[eidairaman1]

EVERYTHING is expensive. Your context doesn't apply and has no merit.

No it isn't.


Sounds good to me..

Nope. Very few people think about reselling when they make a PC part purchase. Most buyers are NOT like us enthusiasts/elites.

Nope, few people think about that. Again, most buyers are NOT like us enthusiasts/elites.

Ok, you nailed that one.


No I wouldn't have. I would have viewed it exactly as it is and as I have.

The only thing going on in that statement is double-talk. What you just described is everything with PC's ever. Are you joking with that?

Actually it does apply, the card is overpriced and underperforming.

 

[Rigg]

Actually it does apply, the card is overpriced and underperforming.

Yup. Based on the ComputerBase review, the 8 GB card is under performing the 16 GB in multiple titles. The 16 GB delivers 60 FPS or more in in every game.

Spoiler

 

[lexluthermiester]

Actually it does apply, the card is overpriced and underperforming.View attachment 399193

I'm not angry, just standing my ground. Was that an attempt to gaslight? Come on, pull the other one..

In other news, the following gentleman has tested the 3050 6GB(effectively an enhanced 2060).

Seems to be doing the job well, even at 1440p.. Imagine that..

 

[Bomby569]

What are you saying? That all cards are expensive? No shit sherlock.

We're in the area of the nuance here where we identify the bottom level new release cards that are underspecced for even current day content as bad purchases. Somehow, it seems the key points keep flying over your head and then the rest of the world is stupid to you? The key points are, and please, pay attention this time:

- resale value
- money spent on GPUs over X time of gaming enjoyment
- expectations going in

And on all three key points, buying an x60 or x60ti in this day and age with 8GB is a loss scenario. You're better off buying something slightly more expensive. Why the fuck is 5090 even a talking point in your comment when we're talking for 15 pages about the midrange GPU offerings??? Maybe you need a dictionary and check the word 'context' for a moment. I'll stress it again... this is about the midrange offering and its progress gen-to-gen. This is the mainstream segment, that used to define something at or above console level graphics. Look at it now. Its falling short, and its not pretty. Textures and LOD levels simply not loading or loading far too late is similar to what used to be 'pop-in' way back. Consoles don't have that, and its not like they are faster or anything. That all on its own, even without seeing a single benchmark should be enough. End of discussion. We need something better.

The fact I have to spell this out... what the fuck yo. And relating to your comment... EVEN the 5090 is a better buy at 3K because you can actually sell it when you're bored with it. It'll hold meaningful value 6-7 years from now just fine.

So yeah... comparing x90 to the shithole that is x60 segment and then making the jump to absurdity on both ends?! The only thing people who say 8GB is an abomination in 2025 really want to tell you, is that we should not be accepting this as consumers and if we do, we're just setting ourselves up for yet another gen of arguably even worse products getting released in our very own preferred purchase price segment. That's not elitism, that's common goddamn sense.

And the people defending it because 'this is what we can buy now' .... you're fucking idiots and simply don't get what power you hold as consumer base. Its about time you start using it and stop debating these nonsensical things with the people who do understand how the world is supposed to work. This idiotic idea that your voice is irrelevant because there's a lot of voices not following you is as short sighted as you can get. History is chock full of examples that have shown that the moment people stand up collectively against something they don't like, change happens. Stop being the factor that stops that change from happening with bullshit arguments. Of course Nvidia will try hard to convince you this is all they got for you at this price. Business 101. Doesn't mean its true.


Its not even a point of discussion. The topic title was perfect.


Absolutely true, and, even so, even in your younger years, if you would have done the math, you'd have known this was a loss scenario. I've been there too, and I've had my share of poor choices over the years, and it was exclusively in the midrange 'on the edge of can/can't do' territory. In that segment, it really does matter what choice you make, and if you have limited budget, that'll hit home twice as hard.

If you like gaming, you'll keep doing it, and you'll keep upgrading, and current x60 is just pulling more money out of your wallet over your gaming years. And on top of that, you're compromising everywhere while actually using said, overpriced, product. Go figure. Its like a double loss.

The bottom line here is really that the current x60's are not in a good place with 8GB, and are a bad purchase EVEN relative to same gen cards somewhat higher up in the stack. The 5060ti 16GB, even at its somewhat higher price point, for example, is already in a better place, giving you a far more consistent experience. Its not only about how high you can pull the graphics slider. Its about just simply having enough hardware resources on tap to run any content you throw at it. Settings come after that - after all, some games you'll really prefer to play at 60+ FPS, others might easily make do with 40. It starts feeling annoying when you are ready to compromise to 40 but you still can't run decent settings because you haven't got the VRAM.

But it has nothing to do with the fact an 8GB card in this day and age shouldn't be on your shopping list, unless its <250,- and frankly even that is stretching it.

you made an argument about price being the decisive factor. But apparently you forgot all about it on your reply rant. Maybe old age, i heard people tend to forget things.

 

[phanbuey]

Seems to be doing the job well, even at 1440p.. Imagine that..

Uhm... well?

Im not sure ~45FPS in a 12 year old game is "well".

 

[Dr. Dro]

View attachment 399236
Uhm... well?

Im not sure ~45FPS in a 12 year old game is "well".

Hold up, man. Something here isn't adding up. The VRAM load here is clearly 5 out of 6 GB, with the game itself using a tad over 4?

 

[freeagent]

Hey.. if you guys don't like it, you can always buy from a competitor, or something from last gen that has the digits that you require

 

[lexluthermiester]

View attachment 399236
Uhm... well?

Im not sure ~45FPS in a 12 year old game is "well".

12Year old game? He's running the enhanced version with RT and upgraded GFX, so no. It's recent. Also, you're screenshot cherry picking. Very classy. As the video continued from that point, after he restarted the game, all was well. However, let's not side-step the point. This is a VERY popular game running on a GPU that is a big step back from the one we're discussing and it's running a ray-traced game VERY well on 6GB of VRAM. Hmm..