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Do you guys have backup discrete GPUs?

Do you have backup GPU

  • Yes, I purchased one as a backup.

    Votes: 19 9.3%
  • Yes, I have an old gpu as a backup, or from some other source

    Votes: 141 69.1%
  • No, I'll buy one when I need one

    Votes: 24 11.8%
  • No... haven't really thought about it

    Votes: 9 4.4%
  • No (other)

    Votes: 11 5.4%

  • Total voters
    204
My backup GPU is an EVGA RTX 2080 TI OC that I have had for some years now.
 
I've got other computers with GPUs if I need to test something. One computer isn't used much (plus it has iGPU on it so basic graphics for general use can still be done if I pull the dGPU) so borrowing it as a backup would suffice until a replacement is found.

Sometimes I'll have a spare GPU if I keep an older one and don't sell it. I did have a spare RTX 3080 for a while, but I did eventually sell it.
 
Like I said above, ebay is tough, and our (absolutely great) second hand store that buys all kinds of stuff, CeX, pays you peanuts. For example, they'd pay £160 for my 6750 XT. For that price, I'd rather keep it.
I once worked in a retail establishment that dealt in secondhand parts, and based on that experience and what CeX is listing 6750 XTs for right now (around £300), £160 is a fair deal. Our general rule for used product (and we did buy from off-the-street folks) was to sell for ~2x purchase cost, which tracks with what I've been able to glean since for other operations that deal in secondhand goods of various sorts. More if we could swing it, obvi, but that was usually reserved for bulk buys. We tried not to soak individuals.
 
I once worked in a retail establishment that dealt in secondhand parts, and based on that experience and what CeX is listing 6750 XTs for right now (around £300), £160 is a fair deal. Our general rule for used product (and we did buy from off-the-street folks) was to sell for ~2x purchase cost, which tracks with what I've been able to glean since for other operations that deal in secondhand goods of various sorts. More if we could swing it, obvi, but that was usually reserved for bulk buys. We tried not to soak individuals.
Yeah, it makes sense from a retail perspective, but to me, my 6750 XT isn't worth selling for £160. It has a much better place on my shelf, waiting for its chance to shine in a secondary rig or something.
 
I once worked in a retail establishment that dealt in secondhand parts, and based on that experience and what CeX is listing 6750 XTs for right now (around £300), £160 is a fair deal. Our general rule for used product (and we did buy from off-the-street folks) was to sell for ~2x purchase cost, which tracks with what I've been able to glean since for other operations that deal in secondhand goods of various sorts. More if we could swing it, obvi, but that was usually reserved for bulk buys. We tried not to soak individuals.

So...is this the logic of parts*3 that mechanics use?

Let me explain. The process as I understand it is:
1) Receipt into system and packaging
2) Review and reconditioning
3) Storage until shelf space becomes available
4) Stocking
5) Sales
6) Shrinkage

1, 4, and 5 are done by low paid and low skilled laborers. 3 is what we like to call overhead. 2 is where the bulk of your variable cost lies, and where a card can either be dusted and checked or just dusted depending upon final sales price. If shrinkage is somewhere near 20%, which is bit on the high side, and sales is 20% of the final cost, 100-20-20-50 is what you can spend between reconditioning and storage, or about 10% of the price. That seems about right given how little is assumed of labor, and it explains why they "trust" a bunch of teenagers at the geek squad to pull this crap off...because it's the only way to profitability.

That said...because it is feasible to have $160 for a thing you resell at $320 doesn't mean that it's a good deal for either you or the purchaser. If we cut the difference, and require a specific demonstrated benchmark, then you could buy second hand for $240 and both the seller and purchaser come out better than buying through a middleman. I...am looking at a 580 right now, and I watch these things go on newegg for about $100...but they are selling on ebay for $70ish. Unless the retailer's warranty is something you trust...it makes little sense to buy a used card from any of them.
As a hint on my personal stance, I view it like travel insurance. On a $500 trip it costs $70. It only activates if you cannot go due to some recordable illness of insane event...so it doesn't insure you against things like airline maintenance incompetency, weather, or even a death in the family precipitating changes (unless that dead person is one of the passengers. That's the kind of insurance most large names stand for, so why pay extra for literally nothing?
 
So...is this the logic of parts*3 that mechanics use?

Let me explain. The process as I understand it is:
1) Receipt into system and packaging
2) Review and reconditioning
3) Storage until shelf space becomes available
4) Stocking
5) Sales
6) Shrinkage

1, 4, and 5 are done by low paid and low skilled laborers. 3 is what we like to call overhead. 2 is where the bulk of your variable cost lies, and where a card can either be dusted and checked or just dusted depending upon final sales price. If shrinkage is somewhere near 20%, which is bit on the high side, and sales is 20% of the final cost, 100-20-20-50 is what you can spend between reconditioning and storage, or about 10% of the price. That seems about right given how little is assumed of labor, and it explains why they "trust" a bunch of teenagers at the geek squad to pull this crap off...because it's the only way to profitability.

That said...because it is feasible to have $160 for a thing you resell at $320 doesn't mean that it's a good deal for either you or the purchaser. If we cut the difference, and require a specific demonstrated benchmark, then you could buy second hand for $240 and both the seller and purchaser come out better than buying through a middleman. I...am looking at a 580 right now, and I watch these things go on newegg for about $100...but they are selling on ebay for $70ish. Unless the retailer's warranty is something you trust...it makes little sense to buy a used card from any of them.
As a hint on my personal stance, I view it like travel insurance. On a $500 trip it costs $70. It only activates if you cannot go due to some recordable illness of insane event...so it doesn't insure you against things like airline maintenance incompetency, weather, or even a death in the family precipitating changes (unless that dead person is one of the passengers. That's the kind of insurance most large names stand for, so why pay extra for literally nothing?

You can break it down all kinds of ways, and your analysis appears sound, but what it boils down to is that you're paying the shop to sell your card (in this in this instance) for you. Retail items sell for more than in private trades. Let's consider an item like the 6750 XT that retails for $300. The secondhand shop pays you $150. If you sold directly to a buyer, you'd get somewhere between $200 and $250, let's say. So yeah, both buying and selling parties are out as much as $100, but have also offloaded finding a buyer and avoided trawling boot/yard sales, dealing with FBM yahoos, and/or aggressive bargain hunters that are going to try to buy it for $150 anyway.

Is CeX or its equivalent a better deal for the original seller and ultimate buyer? In straight money terms, no. But as you pointed out, middlepersons cost money. Going through a secondhand shop requires both buyer and seller to give up some amount of monetary advantage for the convenience of a hassle-free purchase/sale. Whether that trade-off is worth it is a determination only the participants can make.
 
Yes, I use my integrated graphics in times where I lack a GPU. The integrated graphics of Arrow Lake I estimate to be about on par with the PS4 after some overclocking. I've been using the Arrow Lake graphics for gaming for this whole year so far, but will hopefully be upgrading to a dGPU soon.
 
Just for fun I reflowed two failed cards, which are now backups as I don't have integrated graphics.

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Also got a 4GB card secondhand from Goodwill

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First backup card is the 6700 XT of my 2nd PC, then I'd go for HD 7970 as I have a CIB Matrix 7970 in my closet. After that, I have some Kepler GeForces etc., though they're pretty meh since they can't run my 4K monitors with their native refresh rate.

as I don't have integrated graphics.
Me neither, but I just realized recently that my Crosshair VII Hero is one of the rare AM4 boards to not have video outputs! :D
 
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No I don't have a spare video card. At least not one that can replace the RX 7800 XT in case it breaks.
My 2nd best video card would be the GTX 1060 3GB. But in case the RX 7800 breaks, the GTX 1060 will not come in as a replacement. The video card would have to be sent in for RMA, and during that time I can't use the video card, except for the one in the 9800X3D
 
Yes, I use my integrated graphics in times where I lack a GPU. The integrated graphics of Arrow Lake I estimate to be about on par with the PS4 after some overclocking. I've been using the Arrow Lake graphics for gaming for this whole year so far, but will hopefully be upgrading to a dGPU soon.
What the hoot'n'nanny! integrated graphics same level as PS4? You're bonkers. Alder lake desktop igp is roughly RX 640 from what I've read, which is roughly 60% the performance of a HD 7850 - what the PS4 is commonly compared to. But anyways, if its working bro/sis hell yeah! I've had to do some budget GPU gaming myself, and its almost fun to see what you can squeeze out of it lol. There should be some damn decent $70-100 GPU's that would tide you over. Hell my GTX 1660 Super 6G is in that price range.

My backup GPU is a GTX 960 4GB.
 
I initially started off collecting Nvidia FE cards and realised I could use them as backups, I have a 3070, 2080 Ti, 1080 Ti, Titan X Maxwell and 770 FE, all doubling as both display piece and backup.
 
What the hoot'n'nanny! integrated graphics same level as PS4? You're bonkers. Alder lake desktop igp is roughly RX 640 from what I've read, which is roughly 60% the performance of a HD 7850 - what the PS4 is commonly compared to. But anyways, if its working bro/sis hell yeah! I've had to do some budget GPU gaming myself, and its almost fun to see what you can squeeze out of it lol. There should be some damn decent $70-100 GPU's that would tide you over. Hell my GTX 1660 Super 6G is in that price range.
Arrow Lake GPU is 2.4x faster than the Raptor Lake/Alder Lake iGP (according to TPU review) despite the fact that TPU used slow 6400 memory, and I've overclocked the iGP by another 25%. It's definitely beating the prior gen base consoles in many cases in my testing. I would say they trade blows, but the Arrow Lake iGP can beat PS4 by miles in some cases since the PS4 GPU is limited to only 1080p60 in the best case and PS4 is stuck with those weak Jaguar cores. I think the best case for Arrow Lake iGP I found so far was it hitting 1440p 60+ FPS in a game where PS4 was only doing 1080p30...
 
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Kinda, if needed I could borrow a GTX 970 from my X58 or RX 470 from my Z77 PC. Or just use the X58 PC while waiting for a new card. My main card is a GTX 1080 so finding a used similar or faster card wouldn't be too hard.

I might upgrade to something like a RX 9070 within the next year or five, after which the GTX 1080 would become the backup card (or actually it would replace the GTX 970 in the X58 PC and the 970 would go into some other PC).
 
Arrow Lake GPU is 2.4x faster than the Raptor Lake/Alder Lake iGP (according to TPU review) despite the fact that TPU used slow 6400 memory, and I've overclocked the iGP by another 25%. It's definitely beating the prior gen base consoles in many cases in my testing. I would say they trade blows, but the Arrow Lake iGP can beat PS4 by miles in some cases since the PS4 GPU is limited to only 1080p60 in the best case and PS4 is stuck with those weak Jaguar cores. I think the best case for Arrow Lake iGP I found so far was it hitting 1440p 60+ FPS in a game where PS4 was only doing 1080p30...
I apologize mate!!! I need to pay better attention, Arrow not Alder.. de-duh-dee :slap:.

Thats awesome though! Now I got to check reviews to see how Intel's IGP is stacking up against AMD's. I sure hope Intel keeps their GPU division going - we all need it.
 
I tend to use my GPUs for quite a while, so by the time I'm done with them they sell for hardly anything. Rather than sell for pennies on the dollar I just keep them around as spares. Helps peace of mind that I have backup in case my main GPU fails that I can still use for simpler tasks. Plus, for smaller sums it isn't worth the hassle of selling, many people just want to waste your time with lowball offers or unserious behavior. Now, if I've got a more recent GPU that can still fetch a fair price, then I will definitely sell to help subsidize the new card.
 
I’ve decided to keep my RTX 2060 12GB as a backup card. It gives me a peace of mind as my CPU has got no integrated graphics and my old card is still quite capable.
 
yup, its coming from my intel gpu on board...
 
yup, its coming from my intel gpu on board...

To clarify, I mean for modern gaming purposes, not for just display purposes.

I have integrated graphics too but thats not really what I had in mind. At least not one as weak as mine or yours.

Twas more about the unpredictability of the market lately and whether getting something secondary is worthwhile.
 
I don't game precisely because of these utterly flagrant unwarranted gpu prices, as any gamer with half a brain knows you gotta have a back up for the gpu. Spending that much on todays gpus?? Nah, thats fyucked up, seriously, you could buy a full blown adventure bike for that much and have 100x more fun in your life. Don't think you have won nvidia with your mass produced gpus, you haven't, todays PC games are absolute garbage and not worth it, lmfao... put it away you obnoxious child, haha ain't gonna buy your cheap shit.

Back when I had my windows vista machine and I recognized that windows was going in the wrong direction, I started stocking up on gpus and all parts to stay on vista for as long as I could. Did the same thing with my new AM5 build, I essential brought almost the entire system three times over.

Will never buy second hand gpus, always new every single time. don't give those people the satisfaction, they are greedy rip off merchants. Shameful that people pay those prices for something that was probably flogged.
 
Not one, but two. And not just the GPU, but the whole system. If my PC goes boom... well, one of my sons is shafted :p
 
i have a gt710, gtx 750ti (ghetto modded), and a 780ti in an old windows xp build, havent had to use yet....
 
GTX 760 has got my back :rockout:
If needs be
 
got an old r9 290x i keep on hand.
 
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