TPM 2.0 and older AM4 Ryzen CPUs

[AveragePentium4User]

the 3600 would be equivalent to what in intel terms?

 

[jak_2456]

the 3600 would be equivalent to what in intel terms?

A Little slower than an i5-11600 or 9900kf

 

[HD64G]

Imho, minimum CPU from AMD in these days should be a R5 5600. Zen2 are mediocre today and moreover for 3 years in future.

 

[AveragePentium4User]

its a temporary deal, id get a A series cpu if it was half decent, i plan on getting a 5000series Ryzen 7 later

 

[QuietBob]

the 3600 would be equivalent to what in intel terms?

i5-10400 or i5-10600

 

[lambda]

yeah but these 8th/9th gen prebuilt kits aint gonna cut cause i plan on creating content, a 4/4 8th gen i5 aint gonna handle both a game and OBS recording at the same time

i5 8400 is a 6core/6thread chip.

the aio is cause i was planning on having a high end AM4 Ryzen7 cpu,

I'm running the 5900x on this 18USD equivalent cooler and it's mostly fine. Something slightly better is all you need.

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As @_roman_ mentioned, if the i5 8400 doesn't have a TPM somehow then get the Ryzen. With that said, I'm running Win 11 on a i5 8400, it works fine.


Relevant thread about TPM on the i5 8400 -

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/o8kidq/does_my_intel_core_i58400_support_tpm

[!] I'll confirm from my i5 8400 over the weekend, not sure if I have a copy of Valorant but I can download it.

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The cheapest AM4 processor that is worth getting is the Ryzen 5 5600.

I myself moved to AM4 this week, I'm using B550M Pro VDH Wifi + ryzen 9 5900x. I'm happy with the performance.

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TLDR:
1. Either get a cheap i5 8400 for your rig, it will not bottleneck your GTX 980.
2. If moving to AM4, then directly get a used 5700x3D (no ryzen 3600, 5600 etc. you'll waste money).

You should NOT be buying a new AM4 CPU. It's a waste of money

 

[AveragePentium4User]

what abour the 5600variants then? (X/XT/X3D)
are they worth it?

 

[umeng2002]

Zen 3 is a good gaming improvement over Zen 2. Frankly, at this point if you really want AM4, only get a Zen 3 CPU.

 

[freeagent]

I went from a 3600XT to a 5600X and my mind was blown.

 

[lambda]

what abour the 5600variants then? (X/XT/X3D)
are they worth it?

1. How much cheaper is the 5600x3D over the 5700x3D?
2. If you want to do more than gaming then you'd benefit from the 8 core parts. With that said, they are not worth buying new.

 

[Toothless]

what abour the 5600variants then? (X/XT/X3D)
are they worth it?

5600x3d is not worth the price hike. Just got a 5600(x) and call it good. Better yet find a deal on a 57000x3d. (If you're gaming)

 

[KedsDead]

1. How much cheaper is the 5600x3D over the 5700x3D?
2. If you want to do more than gaming then you'd benefit from the 8 core parts. With that said, they are not worth buying new.

Its hard to find a 5600X3D any more.. its on par with a 5700X3D for the most part.. Not going to help all that much with mid tier GPUs.. The 5600 or X model is most likely the best bet.. But its temporary, or just a place holder, grab a 5500 to run with your GTX 980.

 

[lambda]

Its hard to find a 5600X3D any more.. its on par with a 5700X3D for the most part.. Not going to help all that much with mid tier GPUs.. The 5600 or X model is most likely the best bet.. But its temporary, or just a place holder, grab a 5500 to run with your GTX 980.

The R5 5500 has lower cache amount I think 16MB vs 32MB on the R5 5600, also the former is PCIe 3.0 only (not that it makes a difference currently but it might in the future).

AMD Ryzen 5 5500 Specs

Cezanne, 6 Cores, 12 Threads, 3.6 GHz, 65 W

www.techpowerup.com

Good placeholder though, especially if he can source a used one.

 

[Princess Garnet]

the 3600 would be equivalent to what in intel terms?

The 3600X is probably closest to a 8700K or 10400F (which are often similar to one another).

I think Zen 2 (3000 series) is still "alright", but I would agree with others to try and get a 5600/5600X or 5700X if you can. Zen 3 (5000 series) eliminates the breakdown of CCDs into two CCXs, the latency of which was hurting gaming performance a bit, and per core performance of those overall is typically somewhere between the 11th and 12th generation (or effectively even higher in gaming with the X3D variants), so it's a nice bump.

But if used prices on a 3600X or 3700X are attractive enough, those wouldn't be too terrible. I'd just wouldn't go any older/slower than this.

My overall recommendation would differ based on if you want to spread your cost out or not. If you want a one and done option to last until you change the platform while still being a good value, the 5700X (or 5600X, although I'd recommend 8 cores at this point for better lasting chances) is probably the best choice for that. If you instead want to spend a little less up front but are willing to upgrade in some years, then a used 3600X or 3700X would be alright for now, and you can move to a 5700X3D (or 5800X3D) in the coming years when the performance seekers start selling them in order to move to either AM5's final generation or AM6.

 

[Dr. Dro]

i mean its tight but i guess i could stretch it a bit, i just didnt want to like, spend alot on a cpu that i wont use for long, i already bought a 750w psu, a bigger case with fans, theres a 240mm aio arriving soon, and ill buy the mobo, cpu and ram sticks all in one go, every part of this upgrade is meant for the big guns thats to come, a 8core ryzen 7, a much needed gpu with pcie gen 4, so i tought i could save a bit more on the cpu for now

If you positively cannot stretch, there is also the Ryzen 5 3500X. I had one as a stopgap CPU. It's basically a 3600 without the SMT threads. Performs even better than the 3600 in many games.

 

[Thimblewad]

I went from a 3600XT to a 5600X and my mind was blown.

I went from a 5600X to a 5800X3D and my mind was blown again. Insane upgrade, especially in the 1% lows.

 

[LEN42]

I just built a small PC with a B450m board and a 2600x as a home games server for my kids and I, no issue installing win 11 and running games on it.

 

[AveragePentium4User]

ok so it seems that the 5500 for now would be a good choice, decent performance and fairly cheap, the 5600 here is some 50% more expensive, maybe because of bigger cache and PCIe 4.0 support

 

[Ruru]

ok so it seems that the 5500 for now would be a good choice, decent performance and fairly cheap, the 5600 here is some 50% more expensive, maybe because of bigger cache and PCIe 4.0 support

5500 is fine for a budget system, it will be a significant upgrade from your i5-3330. Hell, even when I upgraded from R5 2600 to R5 3600, it was a bigger improvement than I thought.