RTX 5060 8GB performance

[LittleBro]

First of all, I know RTX 5060 is not primarily suited for 4K ultra gaming. I really get it.
How come this GPU is worse in 4 out of 8 games tested in 4K than RTX 4060? And not by a small margin.
RTX 5060 has 448 GB/s memory bandwidth, RTX 4060 has 272 GB/s. Doesn't make sense those min. fps.

Souce: https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/live/news/nvidia-rtx-5060-review-doing-it-live/

 

[Rabit]

Looks like drivers bugs or latency issue, maybe in few monhts Nvidia will fix it.
After drivers improved this will be decent at $150 GPU.
If price will be above $199 lets transfer it directly to recycling facility.

 

[Macro Device]

I don't think NV will fix it. Looks like a systemic illness of the Blackwell arch itself. 5070 also has much worse framerate stability than its predecessors despite having much more VRAM speed. Most likely something is broken in the die itself (probably by design as NV assumed GDDR7 will be fast enough to allow for excluding something that takes "too much space") and is beyond all repair. 5070 is bad enough already, and the whole 5060 line-up is probably the worst insult to gaming GPUs ever (if we don't count GTX 1630 and RX 6500 XT).

Don't bother, pay a little more and buy an Ada GPU of a higher tier. MFG is the only thing BW can do that Ada can't and it's not worth it.

 

[Chrispy_]

Yeah, Blackwell just seems to be handling VRAM shortages worse than Ada did.

I don't know if it's drivers or in the architectural changes, but this was apparent even in the 5060Ti 8GB reviews where it fared worse than the 4060Ti 8GB for no obvious reason. It makes 8GB 50-series GPUs a really dumb buy, while something like the vanilla 4060 isn't such a dealbreaker - with the added bonus that you've likely already had a whole year or solid use out of it.

What worries me is laptops. Upcoming 50-series laptops are 8GB all the way until you hit 5070Ti laptops which start at $2500 for the worst, nastiest examples. You can easily drop $2500 on a 5070 laptop and that's got an 8GB GPU in it. The billion-page forum threads over 8GB being enough or not are bad enough when it's just about a $400 5060Ti with only 8GB. How do you think laptop buyers are going to feel about the planned obsolescence of a Blackwell 8GB GPU at $2500?!!

 

[N/A]

Wait for local review. Until then it could be shadow play reserving 500mb in the background and that counts. And the final ROPs.

 

[Vya Domus]

How come this GPU is worse in 4 out of 8 games tested in 4K than RTX 4060? And not by a small margin.

Because Nvidia.

Just turn on 20X multi frame generation dummy.

 

[lexluthermiester]

First of all, I know RTX 5060 is not primarily suited for 4K ultra gaming. I really get it.
How come this GPU is worse in 4 out of 8 games tested in 4K than RTX 4060? And not by a small margin.
RTX 5060 has 448 GB/s memory bandwidth, RTX 4060 has 272 GB/s. Doesn't make sense those min. fps.


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Souce: https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/live/news/nvidia-rtx-5060-review-doing-it-live/

There is no way those numbers are a reflection of the real potential of this GPU. 4k or not, something hinky is going on. Whether it's intentional or not remains to be seen, but at this point I'm inclined to think it's just an unoptimized driver set.

 

[phanbuey]

It's probably a PCIE interaction with the test system - 5xxx series gpus are known to have issues on many gen 5 motherboards @gen 5 speeds.

Reviewer reports RTX 5080 FE instability — PCIe 5.0 signal integrity likely the culprit

The issue is suspected to stem from the multi-PCB design of the FE cards.

www.tomshardware.com

Derbauer had the same issues - tuning bios settings/falling back to PCIE 4 fixed the issues.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It's probably a PCIE interaction with the test system - 5xxx series gpus are known to have issues on many gen 5 motherboards @gen 5 speeds.

Reviewer reports RTX 5080 FE instability — PCIe 5.0 signal integrity likely the culprit

The issue is suspected to stem from the multi-PCB design of the FE cards.

www.tomshardware.com

Derbauer had the same issues - tuning bios settings/falling back to PCIE 4 fixed the issues.

This could be the problem as well.

 

[Bomby569]

B580 performs much better at higher frame rates, that means nothing for a card that should never be tested or used at 4k.
If it also underperforms 4060 at 1080p that's a real problem, not this.

 

[phanbuey]

This could be the problem as well.

I mean it's really the only difference between the two cards that's notable -- those issues really show up when you're pushing the framebuffer since you're swapping across the bus more. And the initial batch of "PCIE 5.0" motherboards were released when there was no hardware for them, and priority was mainly to put a marketing sticker on the box...

If i had to guess that would be my primary suspect.

 

[JustBenching]

Ngreedia - turns out the 5060 is best perf / $ gpu available.

 

[_roman_]

The billion-page forum threads over 8GB being enough or not are bad enough when it's just about a $400 5060Ti with only 8GB.

"The TechPowerUp test for Doom, where the 8GB version outperformed the 16GB version, doesn't improve the situation for those arguing that 8GB is enough."

Personalyl I will ignore any 5060 tests. A total time waste. Its a basic render card for old games and should not cost more than 99€ including shipping and tax with a 3 fan design.

 

[JustBenching]

"The TechPowerUp test for Doom, where the 8GB version outperformed the 16GB version, doesn't improve the situation for those arguing that 8GB is enough."

Personalyl I will ignore any 5060 tests. A total time waste. Its a basic render card for old games and should not cost more than 99€ including shipping and tax with a 3 fan design.

At 80$ (since you included shipping) it would have 7 times better performance / $ than the next best card. Totally makes sense man.

 

[b1k3rdude]

First of all, I know RTX 5060 is not primarily suited for 4K ultra gaming. I really get it.
How come this GPU is worse in 4 out of 8 games tested in 4K than RTX 4060? And not by a small margin.
RTX 5060 has 448 GB/s memory bandwidth, RTX 4060 has 272 GB/s. Doesn't make sense those min. fps.

Souce: https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/live/news/nvidia-rtx-5060-review-doing-it-live/

But was this with MFG on or off..? Also I cant tell if the card is garbage or the drivers are...

 

[LastDudeALive]

I'm just waiting for TPU's review instead of clickbait YouTubers with an axe to grind.

I don't think NV will fix it. Looks like a systemic illness of the Blackwell arch itself. 5070 also has much worse framerate stability than its predecessors despite having much more VRAM speed.

Blackwell introduced a hardware flip meter for frame rate stability. Probably just needs better driver support to work properly.

Most likely something is broken in the die itself (probably by design as NV assumed GDDR7 will be fast enough to allow for excluding something that takes "too much space") and is beyond all repair. 5070 is bad enough already, and the whole 5060 line-up is probably the worst insult to gaming GPUs ever (if we don't count GTX 1630 and RX 6500 XT).

You dropped your tinfoil hat, sir.

 

[Hecate91]

"The TechPowerUp test for Doom, where the 8GB version outperformed the 16GB version, doesn't improve the situation for those arguing that 8GB is enough."

Personalyl I will ignore any 5060 tests. A total time waste. Its a basic render card for old games and should not cost more than 99€ including shipping and tax with a 3 fan design.

I think the 5060 is a waste of sand, it doesn't even beat the RTX 3070 from 5 years ago, there has been very little progress with the x60 tier, the price range which most people can afford, and it's sad that a $300 card still only has 8GB.
The Intel Arc B580 is only 6% slower on average while having 12GB of VRAM and a $250 MSRP.

 

[wNotyarD]

I think the 5060 is a waste of sand, it doesn't even beat the RTX 3070 from 5 years ago, there has been very little progress with the x60 tier, the price range which most people can afford, and it's sad that a $300 card still only has 8GB.

At least this time it matches the previous gen 60Ti. The 4060 couldn't surpass the 3060Ti without shenanigans.
And that's the only silver lining I can see.

 

[phanbuey]

Ngreedia - turns out the 5060 is best perf / $ gpu available.

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If the MSRP holds is really not a bad card - could have been way better at $345 with 12gb

 

[AusWolf]

Ngreedia - turns out the 5060 is best perf / $ gpu available.

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If performance per dollar was the only metric to judge a GPU by, then the GT 1030 would have been the king of all GPUs for a long time, maybe even today, thanks to its $80 MSRP.

 

[LastDudeALive]

I think the 5060 is a waste of sand, it doesn't even beat the RTX 3070 from 5 years ago, there has been very little progress with the x60 tier, the price range which most people can afford, and it's sad that a $300 card still only has 8GB.
The Intel Arc B580 is only 6% slower on average while having 12GB of VRAM and a $250 MSRP.
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MSRP means nothing, cheapest B580 is currently $350 in the US. https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#sort=price&c=585

 

[Hecate91]

At least this time it matches the previous gen 60Ti. The 4060 couldn't surpass the 3060Ti without shenanigans.
And that's the only silver lining I can see.

True, but the 4060Ti wasn't exactly great either.
And given all of the malicious attitude Nvidia is having towards reviewers with the 5060, it would be a do not buy if I were looking for a midrange card. I'd rather buy used or wait for the 9060XT.

 

[Chrispy_]

This could be the problem as well.

I can see how that would affect the 5080 FE but the issues affect the non-FE cards as well as models like the 5070Ti that don't even have an FE version.

I was initially assuming the issues were drivers but I've had my 5070Ti for 3 full months now and despite it having all its ROPs, I've been through what feels like about 10 different WHQL and hotfix drivers in total since then. I've also sanity-checked my own card on both an AM4 and AM5 system, inadvertently running on both PCIe 4.0 and 5.0 as a result of that.

Overall, I'm happy with the 5070Ti and I'm not unhappy with the 5060Ti 16GB, but something is not quite right with Blackwell - I don't remember prior generations of Nvidia GPUs being this troubled and problematic since the Geforce FX series arrived late, hot, loud, unstable, and faking some of the features it claimed to support in hardware.

 

[LastDudeALive]

And given all of the malicious attitude Nvidia is having towards reviewers with the 5060, it would be a do not buy if I were looking for a midrange card. I'd rather buy used or wait for the 9060XT.

I think people often forget that tech enthusiasts who frequent TPU forums and watch YouTubers are a very, very small portion of the market. The only thing that matters to the ordinary consumer is performance, features, and price.

 

[Macro Device]

You dropped your tinfoil hat, sir.

I'm just speculating here. If I'm wrong I'm fine with that. But I'm still not happy with where the gaming GPU market is going to.