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RTX 5060 8GB performance

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We should not be comparing the popularity of mobile chips when talking about a desktop GPU, imo. They are two vastly different use cases.
The claim was "even the uninformed punters know enough after 2+ solid years of the media warning against 8GB cards costing over $250, so maybe there's low demand to prevent the supply being overwhelmed (and then scalped)."

That's just false, because 8GB cards are still selling well, whether in desktops or laptops.
 
Personally my opinion is that 8GB cards will be mostly great in 2025. 90% of the new games run fine on them at 1080p, sometimes even 1440p! It'll be 2026 and 2027 where they're getting thrown in a dumpster as the 12GB and 16GB cards costing barely any more right now keep on being fine for another 3+ years....

Cards without enough VRAM are usually totally fine until they're suddenly completely useless for brand new games in a very short timeframe. See: GTS 450 (512MB), ATi Fury (4GB HBM) GTX 1060 3GB - to name just a few.
I agree. My brother's 2 GB 960 was long obsolete when a friend of mine was still happily gaming on his 4 GB 960.

Too much VRAM is useless... Until it's actually not.

The claim was "even the uninformed punters know enough after 2+ solid years of the media warning against 8GB cards costing over $250, so maybe there's low demand to prevent the supply being overwhelmed (and then scalped)."

That's just false, because 8GB cards are still selling well, whether in desktops or laptops.
They're selling in laptops because a laptop is a vastly different use case. You don't buy a laptop to be your super high end ultimate gaming setup (or if you do, you're a fool).
 
The claim was "even the uninformed punters know enough after 2+ solid years of the media warning against 8GB cards costing over $250, so maybe there's low demand to prevent the supply being overwhelmed (and then scalped)."

That's just false, because 8GB cards are still selling well, whether in desktops or laptops.
Where is the 5060 the most popular?
 
You don't buy a laptop to be your super high end ultimate gaming setup (or if you do, you're a fool).
People don't buy $250 GPUs to get a super high end ultimate gaming setup either. Again, shifting goalposts. Obviously in 2025, no 8GB card is a high-end GPU. But they are still very popular GPUs for casual esports gamers. OP's claim that people "know enough" to not buy them is just silly, he lives in a bubble of tech enthusiast YouTubers who rely on clickbait and outrage to get paid.
 
I agree. My brother's 2 GB 960 was long obsolete when a friend of mine was still happily gaming on his 4 GB 960.

Too much VRAM is useless... Until it's actually not.
yeah imagine if rtx 3070/3060ti got 16gb of VRAM back in the day - people would be laughing at todays GPUs ...
after 3gb GDDR7 chips hit the mainstream and it will be possible to do 4x3gb configuration with 128bit memory bus
we may actually get a decent value xx60 class GPUs with 12gb of VRAM ( or so called "5060 super" maybe) ...
nvidia could have easily done that already and push unified 12gb 5060Ti/5060 (since they are already using 3gb modules on some of their GPUs)
 
People don't buy $250 GPUs to get a super high end ultimate gaming setup either.
Maybe not in big fat America, or pompous Western Europe, but in other parts of the world, they do.

Again, shifting goalposts. Obviously in 2025, no 8GB card is a high-end GPU. But they are still very popular GPUs for casual esports gamers.
Possibly. We'll see how that statement holds up by the end of the year / this time next year.

Like it was said before, I'm not afraid of using an 8 GB card right now. I just think they'll become obsolete too early, and they're not worth 300 quid.
 
Where is the 5060 the most popular?
I don't think you can read, because I never talked about the 5060 being the most popular. If you're actually interested, here's the Steam Hardware survey. https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

The 4060 laptop, 4060, 4060-Ti, 3050, 3060-Ti, and 3070 all have 8GB. The 2060 and 3060 laptop both have 6GB. The 1650 has 4GB. That's the 10 most popular GPUs, and only the 3060 has more than 8GB.
 
People don't buy $250 GPUs to get a super high end ultimate gaming setup either. Again, shifting goalposts. Obviously in 2025, no 8GB card is a high-end GPU. But they are still very popular GPUs for casual esports gamers. OP's claim that people "know enough" to not buy them is just silly, he lives in a bubble of tech enthusiast YouTubers who rely on clickbait and outrage to get paid.
E sports players don't use anything that increases latency. BTW the 5060 is not $250.
 
hooray we get the rtx 3060Ti/3070 performance 5 years later with the same amount of VRAM for $320 , what an absolute "win" right ... lol ... :laugh:
rtx 4080 says hi with its whooping 80% lead (where are the times when gtx 1060 6gb delivered 980 performance and rtx 2060 did the same with gtx 1080 at $350)
I dont really understand the complaint. It is literally the best perf / $ card on the market. If you are claiming that this is still bad, it follows that everything else is even worse, so why complain about the best value card? Shoulsnt you be complaining about every other card instead?
 
Shifting the goalposts is a sure sign you know you're wrong. At first it was Nvidia just was lying, now its "well, it doesn't feel the same, so I don't like it."

Nvidia was right about what MFG delivered. They severely undersold it, actually, They could have said 5070 = 2x 4090, and would have been more accurate. Whether you like the feature or not is an entirely separate question. Personally, I don't like the move towards more upscaling and frame generation, I'd prefer if Nvidia dedicated more die space to RT cores instead of relying on DLSS to compensate. But it's there, and you can't say they were wrong about what it does.

And the general public is buying Nvidia 40 and 50 cards. You obviously aren't, which is of course your choice. You get to decide what's best for your money. But you need to be able to distinguish your personal thoughts and feelings from what the general public obviously wants.
Shifting what goalposts? It is both though, Nvidia is lying and it doesn't feel the same at all.
I never said anyone can't like frame gen, if you like it and can't notice the difference then use it. The fact is 4X the generated frames isn't the same as natively GPU rendered FPS, the latency and frame timing is going to be higher than GPU rendered frames.
 
Maybe not in big fat America, or pompous Western Europe, but in other parts of the world, they do.
Why are you suddenly talking about 3rd-world markets? You're shifting goalposts again. Obviously 3rd-world countries have very different GPU markets (and gaming markets). This entire discussion has been about the performance and value of the 5060 and related cards in the affluent, western market. I get that the UK doesn't meet those qualifications anymore, but surely you can just imagine what it would be like /s
 
Personally my opinion is that 8GB cards will be mostly great in 2025. 90% of the new games run fine on them at 1080p, sometimes even 1440p! It'll be 2026 and 2027 where they're getting thrown in a dumpster as the 12GB and 16GB cards costing barely any more right now keep on being fine for another 3+ years. It's the short-term thinking like this that causes most of the world's economic crashes and depressions. "Investing tomorrow's money in something that likely won't be much use tomorrow".

Cards without enough VRAM are usually totally fine until they're suddenly completely missing the mark for a majority of brand new games in a very short timeframe. See: GTS 450 (512MB), ATi Fury (4GB HBM) GTX 1060 3GB - to name just a few. All fine performers at their date of launch but reduced to scraping along at the entry-level settings within a couple of years while their VRAM-endowed siblings made it to legendary status as GOATs that delivered a usable experience for 2x, 3x, or even 4x as long.
And i guess youd be super suriprised to find out that the cheapest gpus with more than 8gb vram are from nvidia. Maybe intel, depending on your location. Definitely not amd. Yet here we are, complaining about nvidias vram
 
The 4060 mobile 8GB just became the most popular GPU. 6/10 of the most popular GPUs have 8GB VRAM, and 2 of them have 6GB VRAM. https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

You live in an echo chamber.
And it's biting them in the ass.

3060 Laptops costing $1500 a few short years ago have suffered from not even being able to launch a few games now. I've had a group of friends asking for laptop recommendations because their 4060 and 4070 purchases "look sad".

Laptop buyers are like prebuilt buyers, they don't follow the tech news much and they just buy something because it's expensive so it must be good, right? The laptop world is rife with 4GB variants of 8GB desktop cards of the same name, 6GB and 8GB variants of 12GB desktop cards of the same name.

Would you willingly pay laptop GPU prices for a half-VRAM version of your desktop GPU? I doubt it.
Laptop buyers mostly get screwed over. They are Nvidia's key consumer demographic and they're hurting bad. Popularity is not related to customer satisfaction - these guys are pissed because I talk to plenty of them.
 
E sports players don't use anything that increases latency. BTW the 5060 is not $250.
I'll copy what I said in an earlier post.

I think the core issue is Nvidia has identified the "gaming" market is actually split into at least two groups, with very different market behavior. On one hand, there's casual gamers, who buy prebuilt desktops and laptops and use 1080p gaming monitors. These are your COD, Overwatch, Valorant, CS2, Marvel Rivals, etc, or lower-end indie friendslop games. These games don't have high system requirements, so maintaining almost the same performance across this lowest tier over years is the smart choice for Nvidia. Maximize your silicon usage by shrinking the GPU instead of bumping up the performance gen-on-gen, get better power efficiency for laptops, and pump out millions of these GPUs for these casual gamers. When they occasionally want to play a more demanding game like Dark Ages, DLSS and MFG gives them a playable experience. 8GB of VRAM is enough for all these casual games.

The second market is the much smaller group of enthusiasts, who have higher resolution monitors, are less accepting of DLSS and frame gen, and play more demanding, cinematic games and use their computers for other things like AI tools or professional software. For them, they get the higher-end GPUs with more memory and much better performance.

TLDR: The 5060 isn't meant for tech enthusiasts like us.

And it's biting them in the ass.

3060 Laptops costing $1500 a few short years ago have suffered from not even being able to launch a few games now. I've had a group of friends asking for laptop recommendations because their 4060 and 4070 purchases "look sad".

Laptop buyers are like prebuilt buyers, they don't follow the tech news much and they just buy something because it's expensive so it must be good, right? The laptop world is rife with 4GB variants of 8GB desktop cards of the same name, 6GB and 8GB variants of 12GB desktop cards of the same name.

Would you willingly pay laptop GPU prices for a half-VRAM version of your desktop GPU? I doubt it.
Laptop buyers mostly get screwed over. They are Nvidia's key demographic and they're hurting bad. Popularity is not related to customer satisfaction - these guys are pissed because I talk to plenty of them.
Wow, they must all be getting AMD laptops with all the extra VRAM that AMD gives them, right?
 
And i guess youd be super suriprised to find out that the cheapest gpus with more than 8gb vram are from nvidia. Maybe intel, depending on your location. Definitely not amd. Yet here we are, complaining about nvidias vram
That's because the 3060 12GB was amazing. I bought hundreds of them. I'm struggling to think what other cheap GPUs Nvidia has made with more than 8GB
 
Wow, they must all be getting AMD laptops with all the extra VRAM that AMD gives them, right?

Tried it with my g14, im still having nightmares with the drivers. The laptop had been literally unusable for 2 years until they finally fixed it. Couldn't even browse the web on the dgpu, it was stuttering like crazy.
 
Wow, they must all be getting AMD laptops with all the extra VRAM that AMD gives them, right?
This isn't about AMD vs Nvidia

RX 6600S? That's a 4GB AMD laptop GPU with the name of an 8GB desktop GPU.
RX 6700S? That's an 8GB AMD laptop GPU with the name of a 12GB desktop GPU.

Stop tyring to distort this into fanboy/brand-loyalty pick-your-side thing, because it simply isn't. It's about GPU manufacturers being stingy on VRAM these last few years. I already shamed both AMD and Nvidia in this post and complained about all three brands in this post. Fanboyism is such dumb stance to take in 2025 when the only players are massive megacorporations who will gladly screw you out of your money to make a profit.
 
That's because the 3060 12GB was amazing. I bought hundreds of them. I'm struggling to think what other cheap GPUs Nvidia has made with more than 8GB
Nvidia made more than their competition at that price point. I mean look at this thread, people that dont like 8gb suggest 6600 and 6600xt instead of the 3060. They just refuse to let go of their nvidia hatred and see things objectively.
 
Why are you suddenly talking about 3rd-world markets? You're shifting goalposts again. Obviously 3rd-world countries have very different GPU markets (and gaming markets). This entire discussion has been about the performance and value of the 5060 and related cards in the affluent, western market. I get that the UK doesn't meet those qualifications anymore, but surely you can just imagine what it would be like /s
Accusations of shifting goal posts, while your goalposting moving is at an olympic level.
TLDR: The 5060 isn't meant for tech enthusiasts like us.
Then if the argument is the 5060 is for casual gamers, then it should carry a casual gamer price, an 8GB card shouldn't be selling for any more than $199 in 2025.
Tried it with my g14, im still having nightmares with the drivers. The laptop had been literally unusable for 2 years until they finally fixed it. Couldn't even browse the web on the dgpu, it was stuttering like crazy.
That isn't the fault of AMD, OEM drivers are usually shit on laptops if they have a switch between iGPU and dGPU.
complaining about nvidias vram
Yes because the multi-trillion dollar company controls the market and has been stagnating on VRAM for years now.
 
I dont really understand the complaint. It is literally the best perf / $ card on the market. If you are claiming that this is still bad, it follows that everything else is even worse, so why complain about the best value card? Shoulsnt you be complaining about every other card instead?
best perf / $ card is not telling the whole story and you know it . todays market is bad overall .
we used to get way more for our money out of xx60 class cards .
generational uplift is now trash and AMD doesn´t have good mainstream cards either (well not yet anyway)
if the new xx60 class card for $320 can´t even outperform 2 generations and 5 years old 60Ti/70 class cards in rasterization you know that something is wrong ...

in this situation my winner would be a second hand rtx 3080 which i can find for $350 (in my area) and it outperforms the rtx 5060Ti .
 
That isn't the fault of AMD, OEM drivers are usually shit on laptops if they have a switch between iGPU and dGPU.

Yes because the trillion dollar company controls the market and has been stagnating on VRAM for years now.
Wasnt using oem drivers, was using amds official.

The trillion dollar company has 0 control over amd. Amd can do whatever they want, nobody dtops them from making a better card.
 
That's because the 3060 12GB was amazing. I bought hundreds of them. I'm struggling to think what other cheap GPUs Nvidia has made with more than 8GB
The echo chamber just keeps getting more and more full lmao. Nobody in this thread is an ordinary consumer. We know too much, we're too involved in tech. It's just this XKCD over and over again.
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The only way for us to know what the average consumer knows and wants is to look at hard, large-scale data. And the data says that Nvidia has almost a monopoly in discrete GPUs. We can whine and cry and scream about 8GB VRAM, about fake frames, about latency, about how its too expensive compared to whatever arbitrary number I pulled out of my butthole. But the data says most people aren't thinking about those things.
 
At that point get a 6600 and save your money. Where I live this card is 3x the cost of the 6600.
Perfect example. It's almost a 4-year old card at this point and it's spent most of its life at a sub-$200 price point.

Even today it's not a bad way to spend $150 on the used market.

ook at hard, large-scale data. And the data says that Nvidia has almost a monopoly in discrete GPUs. We can whine and cry and scream about 8GB VRAM, about fake frames, about latency, about how its too expensive compared to whatever arbitrary number I pulled out of my butthole. But the data says most people aren't thinking about those things.
I'm drawing from larger-scale data than many here, in that I'm a system integrator of sorts for around 1000 people and I get personal questions and take commissions for another 100+ builds and purchases a year, with about a 15-year history as an SI and a 30-year history as a professional PC builder. I probably manage or at least advise for around 2500 systems, most of which I have personally bought, built, or otherwise recommended as personal purchases in face-to-face conversation.
 
best perf / $ card is not telling the whole story and you know it . todays market is bad overall . we used to get way more for our money out of xx60 class cards .
generation uplift is now trash and AMD doesn´t have good mainstream cards either (well not yet anyway)
if the new xx60 class card for $320 can´t even outperform 2 generations and 5 years old 60Ti/70 class cards in rasterization you know that something is wrong ...

in this situation my winner would be a second hand rtx 3080 which i can find for $350 and it outperforms the rtx 5060Ti .
I agree that the market is messed up, but i cannot blame it on the company that has (by far btw) the best value cards and offers the cheapest gpus with over 8gb of vram. At some point we have to point the finger at their competition that is just doing much worse.

Nvidia is horrible and their new 320$ card csnr even outperform 5 year old cards. Great. Then why the heck is it the fastest card in existence at that price point?
 
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