RTX 5060 8GB performance

[JustBenching]

I mean when the 9060XT comes out sure if it's as bad as I think it'll be.

Even if I think they are full of you know what maybe in the current climate that's the best they can do. Look at the Xbox Series X it got a price increase and nobody was buying it in the first place....

Personally I separate the product from the company anyways all corporations exist to make money so i dont blame any of them does it really matter at the end of the day what I think, nope. 60 class cards will end up in the top 5 on steak regardless.

I still expect better from Nvidia even if pricing sucks the products under the 5090 could be better/more desirable. I get on the process they chose due to cost they cant do much better are the the top but everything under it could be better.

Well, got a 5090 for free and i send it back. Thats how low my opinion is of the 5xxx gen. But I still feel stupid complaining about it when their competition is even worse. I dunno, it kinda makes sense in my brain

 

[Chrispy_]

People really need to learn the difference between a defective product and an intentional choice to use some silicon for a lower SKU to maximize profits. This is basic economics.

Power draw from the unused sections of a card is negligible. Look at the 4070 Ti Super, on a "defective" AD203 chip. Slightly higher power draw, yes, because it had slightly more cores and more VRAM. Power efficiency was identical to the 4070-Ti on the full AD103 chip.

That's not a good example to demonstrate what you're trying to say. The 4070 Ti Super was a much wider card in terms of compute resources that was artificially limited to a 65W lower TDP, meaning it was operating much closer to the efficiency sweet spot.

Nvidia power-gate their GPUs, it's why GPU-Z almost always shows "PWR" as the PerfCap reason for every GPU Nvidia has made in at least a decade, possibly longer.

For the 5060 it's nominally a 145W card, but it will not undervolt or efficiency-scale like the 115W 4060 did. Even ignoring the die configuration differences and using the bone-stock performance at the stated TDPs, the 5060 has a 26% higher power draw than the 4060, yet it is not 26% faster. Ergo, worse efficiency than last-gen using a dedicated small die rather than a fused-off (potentially defective bins) larger die.

Optimistically, the 5060's efficiency isn't much worse than the 4060 and pessimistically, the 5060's efficiency scaling down to lower TDPs will be a disaster, whether it's by AIBs setting the vBIOS TDP lower for their low-profile variants, or whether it's end users like us tinkering via Afterburner and voltage curves.

Well, got a 5090 for free and i send it back.

Personally, I would have scalped it on ebay and bought myself a new motorcycle to play with.

That's a 2015-2020 500cc or 650cc sports bike right there!

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Well, got a 5090 for free and i send it back. Thats how low my opinion is of the 5xxx gen. But I still feel stupid complaining about it when their competition is even worse. I dunno, it kinda makes sense in my brain

Yeah, I get that.

Pc hardware as a whole is in a weird transition right now with even consoles rasing prices which I thought I'd never see the day.

Still this is the first generation I can remember where I wouldn't feel great about recommending any card for gaming and feel good about it even 40 series an also generally meh generation had a few cards that made sense now my response is think really long and hard do you really need that upgrade especially in scenarios where they aren't getting more vram than what they had on 4-5 year old cards and somtimes even less in their price range.

 

[AusWolf]

The 5060, its right there in the graph. And if you need more vram, its the 3060. Wild.

An 8 GB card for 300 bucks? You call that good value? Wow.

The 3gb never run out of puff. I had both versions. I in fact still have them. I dont even get the argument. Are you saying that games 2 years from now will look worse than todays games while needing more vram or what are you saying exactly?

Look up Hardware Unboxed's comparison of the 4 GB and 8 GB 6500 XT. I'm sure you'll see a similar difference with the 1060.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

An 8 GB card for 300 bucks? You call that good value? Wow.


Look up Hardware Unboxed's comparison of the 4 GB and 8 GB 6500 XT. I'm sure you'll see a similar difference with the 1060.

As much as it sucks us gamers have to realize that there will never be an objectively good card at this price range ever again. The 3060 12GB was fine but not really 330 usd the majority of its life the 2060 6GB would be $430 ish usd in 2025 money the 1060 the last good 60 class card $330/399 in 2025 money the split was becuase Nvidia did that bs FE premium that made all other cards more expensive around launch....

Should this be a way better 350-400 usd card, I think so but anything around 299 or less is going to have caveats going forward it's in the no mans land between the 50 class and 60 class of prior generation just looking at 2025 $$$

 

[AusWolf]

As much as it sucks us gamers have to realize that there will never be an objectively good card at this price range ever again.

Why?

Us gamers have to realise that we control the market with what we buy. Nvidia, AMD and Intel will have to change their ways if we stop allowing them to push all this crap down our throats. It's not "just the way it is". It's how we shape reality for ourselves. It's not "the times we live in today". We do have an influence on the world around us. We need to stop being sheep, and make informed buying decisions instead of settling for way overpriced "better than nothing" options.

 

[blinnbanir]

As much as it sucks us gamers have to realize that there will never be an objectively good card at this price range ever again. The 3060 12GB was fine but not really 330 usd the majority of its life the 2060 6GB would be $430 ish usd in 2025 money the 1060 the last good 60 class card $330/399 in 2025 money the split was becuase Nvidia did that bs FE premium that made all other cards more expensive around launch....

Should this be a way better 350-400 usd card, I think so but anything around 299 or less is going to have caveats going forward it's in the no mans land between the 50 class and 60 class of prior generation just looking at 2025 $$$

Do you know what else costs $300 US? The Steam Deck. With that you get a fully capable PC Gaming device. That is probably why it has been the top 10 in sales since launch on Steam. There is also the fact that Nvidia are fully to blame for this card costing so much. Just because Nvidia has people convinced that they are the only Game in town, it is nothing but propaganda. Just look at how MSI decided they did not want to have anything to do with AMD GPUs that they made their jump into the handheld market with Intel. Until today it was announced that the Claw would be getting AMD APUs. Unfortunately that is where the budget market is now. That or the 6600. I just checked my Steam Chart and funnily enough it reports that I have a 4060TI laptop.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Why?

Us gamers have to realise that we control the market with what we buy. Nvidia, AMD and Intel will have to change their ways if we stop allowing them to push all this crap down our throats. It's not "just the way it is". It's how we shape reality for ourselves. It's not "the times we live in today". We do have an influence on the world around us. We need to stop being sheep, and make informed buying decisions instead of settling for way overpriced "better than nothing" options.

If even all gamers united which will never happen they'd just abandon that market kinda like the 200 usd market has been abandoned for the most part unless you count undesirable products dropping to that price level.

Do you know what else costs $300 US? The Steam Deck. With that you get a fully capable PC Gaming device. That is probably why it has been the top 10 in sales since launch on Steam. There is also the fact that Nvidia are fully to blame for this card costing so much. Just because Nvidia has people convinced that they are the only Game in town, it is nothing but propaganda. Just look at how MSI decided they did not want to have anything to do with AMD GPUs that they made their jump into the handheld market with Intel. Until today it was announced that the Claw would be getting AMD APUs. Unfortunately that is where the budget market is now. That or the 6600. I just checked my Steam Chart and funnily enough it reports that I have a 4060TI laptop.

Apu for sure are going to likely overtake this market but the good thing about the steamdeck is how valve has supported it with it's OS not the hardware which wasn't very good even on initial release.

 

[LastDudeALive]

Us gamers have to realise that we control the market with what we buy. Nvidia, AMD and Intel will have to change their ways if we stop allowing them to push all this crap down our throats. It's not "just the way it is". It's how we shape reality for ourselves. It's not "the times we live in today". We do have an influence on the world around us. We need to stop being sheep, and make informed buying decisions instead of settling for way overpriced "better than nothing" options.

Oh hey, it's the echo chamber again. The data shows that the vast, vast majority of people don't care about anything anyone in this thread has mentioned. They don't care about 8GB of VRAM in 2025, they don't care about the xx60 cards having little performance gains over 3 generations, they aren't turned off by DLSS, they don't find $300 to be an outrageous price, etc. All 133,000 members of the TPU forums could never buy an Nvidia GPU again, and Nvidia wouldn't even notice.

 

[AusWolf]

If even all gamers united which will never happen they'd just abandon that market kinda like the 200 usd market had been abandoned for the most part unless you count undesirable products dropping to that price level.

That would kill not only their gaming GPU sales, but the gaming industry as a whole. I don't see that happen. There's far more people dependent on gaming GPUs than gamers. No, they'd sooner cave in and release something that slightly resembles a good offer, even if compromises would have to be made, like older manufacturing nodes, cut power budgets to fit a smaller VRM circuitry, etc.

Edit: I still think it's better to buy nothing than to buy something that'll most probably become obsolete in a year or two for 300 bucks. I'm not here to help Nvidia's and AMD's sales numbers. I'm here to buy only what makes sense.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Oh hey, it's the echo chamber again. The data shows that the vast, vast majority of people don't care about anything anyone in this thread has mentioned. They don't care about 8GB of VRAM in 2025, they don't care about the xx60 cards having little performance gains over 3 generations, they aren't turned off by DLSS, they don't find $300 to be an outrageous price, etc. All 133,000 members of the TPU forums could never buy an Nvidia GPU again, and Nvidia wouldn't even notice.

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It's pretty obvious they don't care they'd be releasing much better products if they did.

If you love terrible generational improvements and almost zero progression when it comes to vram over the last decade. Nvidia is the company for you they love that shite.

 

[wolf]

The last two Nvidia card / 8GB VRAM topics lasted some time but now both aren't open for further replies, how long till it happens here for similar reasons?

How much can the same people repeat the same talking points from both sides, ad nauseum?

 

[blinnbanir]

Oh hey, it's the echo chamber again. The data shows that the vast, vast majority of people don't care about anything anyone in this thread has mentioned. They don't care about 8GB of VRAM in 2025, they don't care about the xx60 cards having little performance gains over 3 generations, they aren't turned off by DLSS, they don't find $300 to be an outrageous price, etc. All 133,000 members of the TPU forums could never buy an Nvidia GPU again, and Nvidia wouldn't even notice.

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I agree, they sell so many GPUs to the Govt of China it makes it look like they are dominating. However life is not black and white. I wonder how many Steam Decks have been sold since launch maybe I will ask Co-Pilot

This is Co pilot's response

Nvidia has been dominating the GPU market, with record-breaking sales driven by demand for AI and gaming hardware. In Q3 2024, Nvidia secured 90% of the global GPU market share, leaving AMD with just 10% and Intel with negligible sales.


Additionally, Nvidia reported $13.5 billion in revenue in a recent quarter, with $10.3 billion coming from high-performance compute GPUs for AI and HPC applications. Gaming revenue also grew by 22% year-over-year, fueled by strong sales of the RTX 40-series GPUs, including the RTX 4060 and RTX 4070.


If you're interested in specific GPU models or trends, I can help break it down further!

Look at 4090 and 4090D were included in the 22% increase.


Meanwhile

Handheld gaming devices powered by AMD Ryzen APUs have seen impressive sales growth. Since the launch of the Steam Deck in 2022, shipments of Windows and SteamOS-based handhelds have reached nearly 6 million units between 2022 and 2024. By the end of 2025, this number is expected to climb to 8 million units, with AMD processors dominating the market.


The Steam Deck remains the most popular handheld, accounting for over 4 million units sold. Other major brands like ASUS, Lenovo, and MSI have also contributed to the market with devices like the ROG Ally, Legion Go, and MSI Claw.


If you're curious about specific models or trends, I can help break it down further

What are Gamers buying indeed.

 

[LastDudeALive]

It's pretty obvious they don't care they'd be releasing much better products if they did.

Or maybe you just have a different idea of what makes a better product than the vast majority of people. And that's okay, you're absolutely entitled to your opinion and preferences, and nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy a 5060. But at the end of the day, Nvidia's a $3 trillion company with a practical monopoly because they give people what they want, and AMD's a $200 billion company that's close to abandoning the discrete GPU market because they haven't given people what they want.

Maybe Nvidia figured that people would rather have a $300 5060 with mild performance improvements on the same node than a $500 5060 because they paid a premium for TSMC 3nm.

I agree, they sell so many GPUs to the Govt of China it makes it look like they are dominating. However life is not black and white. I wonder how many Steam Decks have been sold since launch maybe I will ask Co-Pilot

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I don't care what auto-correct has to say about anything.

 

[AusWolf]

I agree, they sell so many GPUs to the Govt of China it makes it look like they are dominating. However life is not black and white. I wonder how many Steam Decks have been sold since launch maybe I will ask Co-Pilot

This is Co pilot's response

Nvidia has been dominating the GPU market, with record-breaking sales driven by demand for AI and gaming hardware. In Q3 2024, Nvidia secured 90% of the global GPU market share, leaving AMD with just 10% and Intel with negligible sales.


Additionally, Nvidia reported $13.5 billion in revenue in a recent quarter, with $10.3 billion coming from high-performance compute GPUs for AI and HPC applications. Gaming revenue also grew by 22% year-over-year, fueled by strong sales of the RTX 40-series GPUs, including the RTX 4060 and RTX 4070.

Q3 2024? That's the best Copilot can give us? That was nearly a year ago. Sheesh.

Or maybe you just have a different idea of what makes a better product than the vast majority of people. And that's okay, you're absolutely entitled to your opinion and preferences, and nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy a 5060. But at the end of the day, Nvidia's a $3 trillion company with a practical monopoly because they give people what they want, and AMD's a $200 billion company that's close to abandoning the discrete GPU market because they haven't given people what they want.

Maybe Nvidia figured that people would rather have a $300 5060 with mild performance improvements on the same node than a $500 5060 because they paid a premium for TSMC 3nm.

If only that was true. I guess you never heard of the word "marketing" and its effect on people, or why certain companies like Nvidia spend so much money on it.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

The last two Nvidia card / 8GB VRAM topics lasted some time but now both aren't open for further replies, how long till it happens here for similar reasons?

How much can the same people repeat the same talking points from both sides, ad nauseum?

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People on both sides can't have a conversation about why a 300 usd card could be a good or bad investment. My primary issue with it is we've gone backwards since the 30 series with 33% less vram on the 400 usd and under market.

There are scenarios especially primarily esport gamers where I would use this who are on somthing like a 2060 6GB or older depending on what the 9600XT is but I've also never been a huge fan of used cards unless I personally know the owner.

At the end of the day people are only responsible for their own wallet they need to do their own research weight the pros and cons and see if this is the right or wrong card for them.

 

[wolf]

People on both sides can't have a conversation about why a 300 usd card could be a good or bad investment.

It sure seems like they can't, they want the other side to bow down and agree or they just keep arguing and repeating themselves, seemingly unwilling to agree to disagree or joining/starting a productive conversation.

Both previous threads where this happened, everything that needed to be said was said on the first 2 pages, tops, and it's been covered here again too.

Taking bets on when/what page the pissing contest reaches boiling point for the mods.

 

[Chrispy_]

Taking bets on when/what page the pissing contest reaches boiling point for the mods.

I bet the pissing contest won't be as bad, because there's less reason to be outraged over a $300 gpu with 8GB than a $400 with 8GB. IMO it's still too expensive for 8GB but it's not as expensive.

As I've said in a different thread already, the real issue isn't whether $300-450 is too much for an 8GB GPU, it's whether laptops that dramatically outsell dGPUs should be selling for $2000-$2500+ with an 8GB 5070 in them.

It's all about relative outrage - ie how much are people being shafted, and where is everyone's individual limit of tolerance for how much they're being shafted.

 

[AusWolf]

Nvidia wouldn't need to resort to this crap if 8 GB for 300 made any sense at all. That's my bottom line.

 

[wolf]

It's all about relative outrage - ie how much are people being shafted, and where is everyone's individual limit of tolerance for how much they're being shafted.

It's also funny outrage to me in the sense that 99% of the people outraged were almost certainly never going to buy one anyway, they need only vote with their wallets.

Which brings me right back to, everything that needs to be said has already been said and we're about 7 layers deep into repetition now.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

It sure seems like they can't, they want the other side to bow down and agree or they just keep arguing and repeating themselves, seemingly unwilling to agree to disagree or joining/starting a productive conversation.

Both previous threads where this happened, everything that needed to be said was said on the first 2 pages, tops, and it's been covered here again too.

Taking bets on when/what page the pissing contest reaches boiling point for the mods.

I definitely see both sides and dont disagree with all points that are for or against this and the 4060ti 8GB

I also think some people like seeing a lack of progress in this segment it means their old hardware will likely last longer I mean 3060ti owners are probably still yawning at this segment almost a half decade later......

My issue is the lack of progress in the sub 400 usd market when it comes to both performance and vram. This product can't even beat a 499 product from a half decade ago...

Beyond that how Nvidia has acted with this product is appalling they are the undisputed king of AI and gpu marketshare right now they don't need to hide their products behind scummy previews and framegeneration.

 

[Outback Bronze]

AMD's a $200 billion company that's close to abandoning the discrete GPU market because they haven't given people what they want.

Did I miss something?

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In a recent interview with ASUS China Manager Tony Yu on Bilibili, AMD CEO Dr. Lisa Su revealed that the company's latest RDNA 4-based Radeon RX 9070 XT GPU has achieved remarkable success, with first-week sales surpassing previous generations by tenfold. "I'm very proud of the team on RDNA 4,"...

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Sales numbers from a popular German retailers shows that AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT remains top of the sales charts.

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[ShiBDiB]

I plan on building the GF a computer soon and it looks like I'll be sticking a 4060 in it, or maybe even a 3060ti.

Also really wanted to upgrade from my 3070ti, but this entire generation just looks like a massive waste of money just to get the latest dlss version.

 

[nguyen]

5060 is available in my country at 330usd after VAT, that is some sweet pricing that lots of gamers will buy.

Meanwhile 9070XT so good they are still sitting on shelves because not too many gamers here can actually afford the price.

AMD has done enough damage after 7000 series and they can't even muster up the courage to sell budget 9000 before Nvidia to gain marketshare, what a coward company LOL

 

[lexluthermiester]

Did I miss something?

Nope. You, nor many of the rest of us missed anything. That user was either trolling or simply displaying how out of touch with reality they are.

I plan on building the GF a computer soon and it looks like I'll be sticking a 4060 in it, or maybe even a 3060ti.

If you're going to go with 1080p, either of those would be a solid choice.

Also really wanted to upgrade from my 3070ti, but this entire generation just looks like a massive waste of money just to get the latest dlss version.

Upgrading to a 4070ti would worth the upgrade and you could hand off your 3070ti to your GF. Just a thought.