RTX 5060 8GB performance

[Outback Bronze]

Nope. You, nor many of the rest of us missed anything. That user was either trolling or simply displaying how out of touch with reality they are.

I better start talking about the 5060 8GB mess before I get into trouble for derailing the thread and not sticking on topic.

The 9070/XT looks to have taken out the 5070/Ti/80 sales. Will be interesting what the 9060/XT paired with 8GB will do (priced accordingly) and if it will get sand bagged as well.

I must admit though, this has blown up over an 8GB card running @ 4K...

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[lexluthermiester]

No, im insinuating that nobody should be saying anything positive or negative about nvidia, but instead we should put all our focus on blaming everyone else that makes worse products than them.

My take is as it's always been: focus on the merits of actual performance and practical utility of products.

Will be interesting what the 9060/XT paired with 8GB will do (priced accordingly) and if it will get sand bagged as well.

I'm looking forward to that. Really want to see what AMD's budget 8GB offerings can do in comparison to the GF 8GB cards. Personally, I think it's a great time to be a budget gamer.

I must admit though, this has blown up over an 8GB card running @ 4K...

Right?!?

 

[LastDudeALive]

Did I miss something?

10x the previous generations is a laughably low bar to clear lmao. Literally nobody wanted them at launch, they only became decent cards months to years after launch, after numerous price cuts.

And everybody posts mindfactory numbers like it's a reliable indicator of the broader market. If you look at their numbers vs real-world data like the Steam Hardware survey or other measures of usage, Nvidia is consistently at 75-80% market share.

 

[Dr. Dro]

My take is as it's always been: focus on the merits of actual performance and practical utility of products.


I'm looking forward to that. Really want to see what AMD's budget 8GB offerings can do in comparison to the GF 8GB cards. Personally, I think it's a great time to be a budget gamer.

Right?!?

I posted this on the Computex thread where a similar argument was ongoing, but, personally, following your same focus (which is the only one that matters), I believe harsh judgment may have been passed on earlier than it should have. HUB's review data is placing the 5060-8GB as the best performance per dollar in this segment right now, and matching the elusive, ultra rare MSRP RX 9070 at it

Yet I haven't seen this posted anywhere, really. Pitchforks are raised instead.

 

[Outback Bronze]

If you look at their numbers vs real-world data like the Steam Hardware survey or other measures of usage, Nvidia is consistently at 75-80% market share.

Yep, fully understand, but these 9070/XT have just been released. How long have the top gpu's been out for? Time will tell as usual.

 

[AusWolf]

I plan on building the GF a computer soon and it looks like I'll be sticking a 4060 in it, or maybe even a 3060ti.

Why not look at a B580? It's cheaper and has more VRAM.

Also really wanted to upgrade from my 3070ti, but this entire generation just looks like a massive waste of money just to get the latest dlss version.

Not even the DLSS version, just multi frame gen.

 

[Hecate91]

It seems someone posted again some hardware unboxed youtube charts.

I really dislike the misinformation hardware unboxed does again.

WHQD, which I play, does not end in the 5070 something series. It ends with the Nvidia 5090. That is clear misinformation to paint the nvidia card as better as it is. It is a worse entry card. The performance in my point of view is something which was sold 5 years ago. (Please check yourself the charts on page 1 or page 2 of this topic!)
Even vor 1080p it's misinformation. The highest card should always be in the charts. Personally I think the best professional card, when it performs better should be also included to see the clear difference in cheap cards like the 5060 and medium cards.

edit: fixed typo chart -> card

Well I posted the HWUB charts because it was the first 5060 review I seen available. HWUB isn't my favorite tech channel at all, but their conclusion I agree with. The 5060 is a DOA card. If Nvidia priced it closer to $200 and wasn't trying to actively silence the tech press then the 5060 would be a decent value card.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean with misinformation though.

I read something else also. Some consumers think a 730€, lol, p(l)aystation 5 pro is a good deal.

edit: I used to play on gaming notebooks. Supermarket laptop which was a rebranded MSI barebone, ASUS g70sg, (i had a second Asus k70 as a second screen), Asus g75VW (used 2-3 years old, I had it nearly 6 years) I was forced to build a desktop AM4 box. Everything is soldered these days in laptops. With my electronics background it was too high risk to buy a gaming laptop which is basically e-waste. Recent 3 of 4 refurbished laptops I bought myself had issues. 1) Dead background light of the lenovo laptop 2) the device was not repaired by the refurb company. I got another lenovo laptop which had massive battery on the internal, internal and external battery. I was forced to sell it 3) defective speakers on the refurb lenovo laptop which i returned 4) my 4th laptop now seems to be a proper one, as of now. not sure when the device will be 11 months old. Refurbished Laptops are quite trash from lenovo these days. As far as I remember.

Another family member also wanted a notebook. I pointed out that laptops are e-waste these days. A defective mainboard usually means another fresh purchase. So I personally build him a AM4 box which he still uses. I still check aliexpress on those mainboard prices for laptops. Those are quite a joke for old dated hardware to ask 300-400€ for just a plain laptop mainboard without screen, keyboard, battery, case, ...

The PS5 would be a good deal if there weren't ridiculous pay to play online DRM, I despise that about newer consoles.
But gaming laptops are a terrible waste unless you need a laptop with a GPU or don't have the space for any desktop at all, gaming laptops are throwing money away for overpriced underpowered hardware which runs too hot to the point of frying the GPU.
I buy used office/business laptops, those are still decent, but companies like HP,Dell, and Lenovo have started to solder in RAM, and make them difficult to repair.

5060 is available in my country at 330usd after VAT, that is some sweet pricing that lots of gamers will buy.

Meanwhile 9070XT so good they are still sitting on shelves because not too many gamers here can actually afford the price.

AMD has done enough damage after 7000 series and they can't even muster up the courage to sell budget 9000 before Nvidia to gain marketshare, what a coward company LOL

An entry level card compared to the upper high end, not a very fair comparison, but as expected when it comes to anything not Nvidia. The 9060XT hasn't launched yet, we'll see how it compares to the 5060 then.
Cowardly? LOL,right, which company is too afraid to send out cards and drivers to reviewers who will give them an honest assessment?

 

[AusWolf]

I posted this on the Computex thread where a similar argument was ongoing, but, personally, following your same focus (which is the only one that matters), I believe harsh judgment may have been passed on earlier than it should have. HUB's review data is placing the 5060-8GB as the best performance per dollar in this segment right now, and matching the elusive, ultra rare MSRP RX 9070 at it

Yet I haven't seen this posted anywhere, really. Pitchforks are raised instead.

Based on the last few pages here, nobody is criticising the 5060 for its current performance per price metric, but on the questionable longevity of 8 GB VRAM.

 

[nguyen]

I posted this on the Computex thread where a similar argument was ongoing, but, personally, following your same focus (which is the only one that matters), I believe harsh judgment may have been passed on earlier than it should have. HUB's review data is placing the 5060-8GB as the best performance per dollar in this segment right now, and matching the elusive, ultra rare MSRP RX 9070 at it

Yet I haven't seen this posted anywhere, really. Pitchforks are raised instead.

Youtubers were already trying to bury 8GB GPU, I guess doing that get them more views than just traditional reviews.

When people asked HUB why was 4060 selling so well despite them being so against it, their response was because there was no competition . I guess rage baiting get more clicks these day.

 

[freeagent]

That guy always looks pissed off lol..

 

[wolf]

Youtubers were already trying to bury 8GB GPU, I guess doing that get them more views than just traditional reviews.

When reviewing hardware, reviewers should find it difficult to draw a hard line and state with total confidence that their conclusions are the only logical ones that can be drawn from the facts. They should try very hard to eliminate personal opinion from their reviews and provide readers with enough information to form their own educated opinions. They should try to point out the downsides of the products, as well as the niche uses for which otherwise disappointing hardware might shine. Their job is about balance and temperance.

All of the reviews that have done this are already a complete enough picture, especially recently where there have been both 8GB and 16GB models. I respect those reviews with their balance and temperance, and they respect me as a reader/viewer by giving me facts to form my own conclusions.

But hey these peoples income and livelihood is directly affected by views, so I can see why they cross further and further into outrage farming, it's paying their mortgages faster.

 

[freeagent]

But hey these peoples income and livelihood is directly affected by views, so I can see why they cross further and further into outrage farming, it's paying their mortgages faster.

This is one of the reasons why I quit watching them.

 

[lexluthermiester]

HUB's review data is placing the 5060-8GB as the best performance per dollar in this segment right now

Credit where it's due, at least they were up front at honest about that. They could have just as easily glossed it over.

 

[wolf]

This is one of the reasons why I quit watching them.

I tend to look at Techspot instead of watch HUB (but even that's rare), I get the exact same data and I can skip their opinion/conclusions/outrage farming.

W1zzard/TPU is the gold standard of balanced and tempered reviews as I described. Anandtech was too, RIP

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I tend to look at Techspot instead of watch HUB (but even that's rare), I get the exact same data and I can skip their opinion/conclusions/outrage farming.

W1zzard/TPU is the gold standard of balanced and tempered reviews as I described. Anandtech was too, RIP

I mean you either get reviewers blowing stuff out of proportion or reviewers giving awards to absolute trash products that offer the worst generational uplift ever.... No in-between.

They need a poor generational uplift award...... The way things are going.

Honestly the data is the only important part of any review people should be able to look at 4 or 5 reviews average it out and make a decision if the product is good or not. The data here is amazing but even it needs to be compared to other websites to get a feel for how a product stacks up.

 

[lexluthermiester]

W1zzard/TPU is the gold standard of balanced and tempered reviews as I described.

This! In my book the reviews W1zzard & crew publish are what everyone else is compared against.

They need a poor generational uplift award...... The way things are going.

For Geforce, no can argue that. It's been a lack luster uptick except for the 4090 -> 5090. Everything else feels like the GTX400s to the GTX500s. Improved but not a huge leap.

Now for Radeon, that's a different story. The RX9000s have solid jumps in performance over the RX7000s, especially in RTRT performance metrics.

 

[Hecate91]

I mean you either get reviewers blowing stuff out of proportion or reviewers giving awards to absolute trash products that offer the worst generational uplift ever.... No in-between.

They need a poor generational uplift award...... The way things are going.

Honestly the data is the only important part of any review people should be able to look at 4 or 5 reviews average it out and make a decision if the product is good or not. The data here is amazing but even it needs to be compared to other websites to get a feel for how a product stacks up.

I don't watch most tech channels anymore, a majority of them aren't worth watching the entire video when I can just skip to the charts and decide for myself, no need to watch the conclusion when almost all of them are opinionated.
There also needs to be a "I hate having money" award for how expensive graphics cards are getting.
Exactly though, looking at an entire selection of reviews and making a decision is the best way to decide if a product is worth buying or not, but people accusing reviews of being clickbait or ragebait is a popular evasion for saying they don't like the reviewers opinion.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

For Geforce, no can argue that. It's been an lack luster uptick except for the 4090 -> 5090. Everything else feels like the GTX400s to the GTX500s. Improved but not a huge leap.

While the 400 and 500 generation were also very poor uplifts they were only 7-8 months apart and just fixed the 400 series. So it really wasn't a new generation this one was 26 months later....

Now for Radeon, that's a different story. The RX9000s have solid jumps in performance over the RX7000s, especially in RTRT performance metrics.

My one issue with these cards is they are insanely expensive in the states and also they only look decent because Nvidia phone in the generation when it comes to generational uplifts. if the 5070/80 series just had average by Nvidia standards uplifts they would be DOA at current pricing.

And really they are still slightly behind still if their MSRP were not fake they would be solid enough.

 

[lexluthermiester]

While the 400 and 500 generation were also very poor uplifts they were only 7-8 months apart and just fixed the 400 series. So it really wasn't a new generation this one was 26 months later....

While true, Blackwell is effectively just a refined uptick of Ada and that shows. The best side of that is the DLSS4, FG and RTRT improvements. As the benchmarks have shown, the Raster performance didn't jump too much, depending on the game engine/title.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I don't watch most tech channels anymore, a majority of them aren't worth watching the entire video when I can just skip to the charts and decide for myself, no need to watch the conclusion when almost all of them are opinionated.
There also needs to be a "I hate having money" award for how expensive graphics cards are getting.
Exactly though, looking at an entire selection of reviews and making a decision is the best way to decide if a product is worth buying or not, but people accusing reviews of being clickbait or ragebait is a popular evasion for saying they don't like the reviewers opinion.

I have no issue with a reviewer feeling different about a product than I do even here on TPU when the 5080 got a positive review due to there being nothing else that competes with it I still respect TPU opinion even if I don't agree with it. Same with HUB, I don't like that the sub 400 usd market has stagnated but I could find a use case for a 5060 I'm sure I will do a few builds with them depending on how the 9600 series pans out.

I can hate the gpu market all I want but the bottom line is it is what it is when I get asked to do a build I will still go with whatever the best option the buyer can afford regardless of if I like the product or not. I show them the data and let them decide at most tell them my personal pro/cons.

While true, Blackwell is effectively just a refined uptick of Ada and that shows. The best side of that is the DLSS4, FG and RTRT improvements. As the benchmarks have shown, the Raster performance didn't jump too much, depending on the game engine/title.

I was agreeing with you just pointing out at least with the GTX 500 series it came out in the same year. Waiting over 2 years for this generation was painful for some, I have a lot of people I do builds for regretting not grabbing a 4070ti super over a year ago....

 

[nguyen]

I have no issue with a reviewer feeling different about a product than I do even here on TPU when the 5080 got a positive review due to there being nothing else that competes with it I still respect TPU opinion even if I don't agree with it. Same with HUB, I don't like that the sub 400 usd market has stagnated but I could find a use case for a 5060 I'm sure I will do a few builds with them depending on how the 9600 series pans out.

I can hate the gpu market all I want but the bottom line is it is what it is when I get asked to do a build I will still go with whatever the best option the buyer can afford regardless of if I like the product or not. I show them the data and let them decide at most tell them my personal pro/cons.

Yup, people buy what they can afford, and Steam Hardware Survey show the majority of gamers buy at the 300usd category.

5060 is without any competition at the moment, stocks and pricing are considered very good in this climate.

Sometimes techtubers created stupid trend, like asking motherboard makers to put so much VRM onto budget motherboard and inflating the cost for no reason, and now those techtubers complain about high motherboard prices .

Techtubers: put more VRAM on budget GPUs
Also Techtubers: Why are budget GPUs so expensive

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Yup, people buy what they can afford, and Steam Hardware Survey show the majority of gamers buy at the 300usd category.

5060 is without any competition at the moment, stocks and pricing are considered very good in this climate.

Sometimes techtubers created stupid trend, like asking motherboard makers to put so much VRM onto budget motherboard and inflating the cost for no reason, and now those techtubers complain about high motherboard prices .

That's the thing though consumers aren't given a better option it's literally the only option or jump all the way up to the 5060ti 16GB if you want more vram that's a huge ask for the average consumer. That ball is in Intel and AMD court though Nvidia isn't trying that hard my guess is it'll be bad options from everyone the B580 price has been terrible over her and it also has it's downsides.....

Here in the states the 12GB 3060 is still near the top of the sales charts on both newegg and Amazon and I bet there would be more of them if there was more options. Crazy thing is AMD holds half of the top ten gpu spots on neweggs us site past generations it's like a 8/2 split sometimes even 9/1.

Techtubers: put more VRAM on budget GPUs
Also Techtubers: Why are budget GPUs so expensive

I agree even if they could maintain the same 300 usd price with more vram the gpu actually being more desirable would just lead to retailers scalping it gamers can't win no matter what lol.

 

[nguyen]

That's the thing though consumers aren't given a better option it's literally the only option or jump all the way up to the 5060ti 16GB if you want more vram that's a huge ask for the average consumer. That ball is in Intel and AMD court though Nvidia isn't trying that hard my guess is it'll be bad options from everyone the B580 price has been terrible over her and it also has it's downsides.....

Here in the states the 12GB 3060 is still near the top of the sales charts on both newegg and Amazon and I bet there would be more of them if there was more options. Crazy thing is AMD holds half of the top ten gpu spots on neweggs us site past generations it's like a 8/2 split sometimes even 9/1.



I agree even if they could maintain the same 300 usd price with more vram the gpu actually being more desirable would just lead to retailers scalping it gamers can't win no matter what lol.

It would take some extreme out-of-touch reviewers to say this is a bad deal, because of 8GB VRAM and stuff

 

[oxrufiioxo]

It would take some extreme out-of-touch reviewers to say this is a bad deal, because of 8GB VRAM and stuff

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In todays market sure it's not bad but you know when even Asus is like we gotta have a 3 fan model at MSRP to sell this shit even they don't think that highly of it lol.

The 9600XT 16GB is supposed to be 349.... I will believe it when I see it but if it does hit that price things will be mildly interesting.

 

[nguyen]

In todays market sure it's not bad but you know when even Asus is like we gotta have a 3 fan model at MSRP to sell this shit even they don't think that highly of it lol.

The 9600XT 16GB is supposed to be 349.... I will believe it when I see it but if it does hit that price things will be mildly interesting.

yeah 349usd will be for the first 10 people (who will then spend all their time praising it online), 400usd or more for the rest .

5060 still has no competition at 300usd