RTX 5060 - No Reviews?

[oxrufiioxo]

Im talking about currently. We can argue whether or not it's a good card but i think that's irrelevant, guy wants to buy a card, if he shouldn't buy the card that offers the best perf / value currently then what should he buy?

You did specify ever pretty emphatically lol.....

And in his case, waiting aint even an option, his gpu is dead / dying

I mean all someone has to wait is 2 weeks to see how the 9060XT 8GB stacks up to the 5060 8GB my guess is it will be a coin flip which usually would mean Nvidia but waiting two weeks isn't the end of the world.

that is why I said, a used 66xx series will just be fine.

Yeah, if you can source a decently priced 6650XT or 6600XT that would also get the job done.

 

[lexluthermiester]

a used 66xx series will just be fine.

That too. Even an RX 5700 would work well.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

To be fair, in your situation a 3060 or 3060ti might suit your needs very well. Either one can be had for a very reasonable price on the Ebay.

Last I checked a 3060 12G is going for 240-280 on ebay not sure that is worth going for vs a 5060. I think I would take the warranty and the 30-50% extra performance at 299.

My guess is it's holding strong because it's still the cheapest Nvidia card with more than 8GB. 3060ti is in the same ballpark though 240-280.

 

[JustBenching]

that is why I said, a used 66xx series will just be fine.

If it's just LOL you can start all the way from 80$ for a gt1030 / rx 6400 / rx550 etc. 140$ will get you a 3050. Again- specifically talking about lol, all these will do. Don't expect great AAA performance though.

You did specify ever pretty emphatically lol.....



I mean all someone has to wait is 2 weeks to see how the 9060XT 8GB stacks up to the 5060 8GB my guess is it will be a coin flip which usually would mean Nvidia but waiting two weeks isn't the end of the world.



Yeah, if you can source a decently priced 6650XT or 6600XT that would also get the job done.

Maybe I didn't word it correctly - currently it's the best value for money card ever released. That includes every card that is currently on sale (RDNA 2 / RDNA 3 / 4xxx etc.).

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Maybe I didn't word it correctly - currently it's the best value for money card ever released. That includes every card that is currently on sale (RDNA 2 / RDNA 3 / 4xxx etc.).

I'm having a hard time even finding a 60 class card that had a worse performance per dollar at it's launch lol...... But yeah when everything is crap being the king of crap still makes you the king I guess.

 

[leonavis]

AMD Drivers don't have long support like NVidia, that's why I want to stick with NVidia.

U sure u don't have that one mixed up?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

U sure u don't have that one mixed up?

They do tend to drop support sooner and also not support the previous generations very well.

Current AMD drivers only go back to 2019 Nvidia is 2016.

 

[_roman_]

No Reviews on RTX 5060 on TPU? Or I am not finding it?

This was already discussed and should have been answered wiht a few youtube videos form popular channels / or just reading any tech site.

Current AMD drivers only go back to 2019 Nvidia is 2016.

For windows it makes sense as the operating system does not really support any old hardware anyway. I would also not release any newer amd driver when the hardware does not really support any older processors, mainboards, dram, cpus. Microsoft has dedicated pages for that - check those before replying thank you. Especially w11 pro 24h2 page.
Or other operating system i highly doubt the AMD statement. The NVIDIA i do agree most likely.

Where is the issue. There are windows 10 drivers for very old amd graphic cards:

AMD Adrenalin Radeon-Treiber Download

AMD Adrenalin (ehemals Crimson bzw. Catalyst) ist der Treiber für alle Radeon-Grafikkarten. Deutsch, Freeware, kostenloser Download!

www.computerbase.de

Feel free to look up what vega and polaris is, but that seems still supported.

 

[JustBenching]

I'm having a hard time even finding a 60 class card that had a worse performance per dollar at it's launch lol...... But yeah when everything is crap being the king of crap still makes you the king I guess.

That's because hub did his usual 1440p ultra - so he literally (said so in his video) included games that drop to single digits due to running out of vram. Even with that in mind, it still outscored everything else. At 1080p the difference would be a lot larger. You should not expect to play 1440p ultra with a 299$ GPU. I think you said it yourself, that in todays money, 299$ is a lot lower than the 1060 release price. 1440p ultra is absolutely outrageously high settings for a lower than 1060 tier gpu.

Well saying everything is crap doesn't really help the situation, we can't have everyone being outraged at the 5060 that offers the best value and not say a single word about every other card that has less value. This is my personal pet peeve that I really don't get.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Well saying everything is crap doesn't really help the situation, we can't have everyone being outraged at the 5060 that offers the best value and not say a single word about every other card that has less value. This is my personal pet peeve that I really don't get.

Just different perspectives.... I look at it and see the worst 60 class product Nvidia has released in the last decade you look at it and go well it's better than everything else this generation due to fake msrps.

I don't think either of our perspectives is wrong. Depending on how good or bad the 9060XT is this might end up the default 300 usd option just like the 4060 did and the 3060 and the 2060....

Although this generation has been so bad it's allowed AMD to catch up to at least an ok level which is exactly what Intel did on the cpu side lol although I dont think Nvidia is as stupid as them to allow it multiple generations only time will tell I guess.

 

[NSR]

that is why I said, a used 66xx series will just be fine.

That's my motto with this "budget" generation.

If you're going to be turning down settings anyway on the new card, then you may as well ger the cheapest thing that does close enough to the same thing.

 

[JustBenching]

Just different perspectives.... I look at it and see the worst 60 class product Nvidia has released in the last decade you look at it and go well it's better than everything else this generation due to fake msrps.

I don't think either of our perspectives is wrong. Depending on how good or bad the 9060XT is this might end up the default 300 usd option just like the 4060 did and the 3060 and the 2060....

Although this generation has been so bad it's allowed AMD to catch up to at least an ok level which is exactly what Intel did on the cpu side lol although I dont think Nvidia is as stupid as them to allow it multiple generations only time will tell I guess.

Did amd catch up though? The performance gap has grown larger - and they need an ever increasing die to catch up to nvidias tiny dies (please, people that are ready to jump on this, im talking about transistors). Using ever increasing dies isn't really catching up. They are just being allowed to compete by nvidia, I guess they don't want to trigger monopoly laws. The 5070ti is most likely cheaper to make than the 9070xt and cleanly beats it in every metric. Nvidia can sell the 5070ti cheaper (and still make a profit) than what the 9070xt costs to produce, how is amd supposed to compete here?

Don't know if it's drivers or architecture but they really need to improve on that front and put those transistors to use. The 9060xt is going to be almost the transistor size of the 5070, and yet it will be slower than the 5060ti (albeit, not by a lot). So we can argue amd is already doing their best in terms of pricing (they sell a lot cheaper than nvidia) but that's not good enough simply because their chips are just too goddamn slow compared to nvidias. And that's an nvidia that doesn't even care about raster performance!

Eg1. Its the same situation intel found themselves in in the cpu space but at least they had their own fabs.

 

[Ruru]

They do tend to drop support sooner and also not support the previous generations very well.

Current AMD drivers only go back to 2019 Nvidia is 2016.

Actually NV drivers go even further back to 2014 since they still support Maxwell.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Did amd catch up though? The performance gap has grown larger - and they need an ever increasing die to catch up to nvidias tiny dies (please, people that are ready to jump on this, im talking about transistors). Using ever increasing dies isn't really catching up. They are just being allowed to compete by nvidia, I guess they don't want to trigger monopoly laws. The 5070ti is most likely cheaper to make than the 9070xt and cleanly beats it in every metric. Nvidia can sell the 5070ti cheaper (and still make a profit) than what the 9070xt costs to produce, how is amd supposed to compete here?

Don't know if it's drivers or architecture but they really need to improve on that front and put those transistors to use. The 9060xt is going to be almost the transistor size of the 5070, and yet it will be slower than the 5060ti (albeit, not by a lot). So we can argue amd is already doing their best in terms of pricing (they sell a lot cheaper than nvidia) but that's not good enough simply because their chips are just too goddamn slow compared to nvidias. And that's an nvidia that doesn't even care about raster performance!

Eg1. Its the same situation intel found themselves in in the cpu space but at least they had their own fabs.

5070ti die is still larger and is using significantly more expensive memory so it's hard so say which card cost less to make. Sure AMDs design is more dense but they are still using less silicon per die and much slower memory for a card that isn't that much slower.

Personally I dont find either card overly impressive but if they were $150 usd apart I have a hard time deciding what to buy the last amd card that made me think twice was the 290X.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Peoples take a chill pill. I am not in a hurry to buy anything. Moreover, my son is going to pay for it, when I told him the cost, he was like, so much? Duh! So, he can decide what he wants to do with it.

MC always have some open box deals, if it makes sense will buy, test it out and then put it in his system.

FYI - most of the time he plays LOL. I am sure the 5060 or even a used 6650xt will be fine.

League of Legends will happily run on relatively ancient Intel graphics, and it's one of the most popular games out there. An 8 GB 5060 can probably run it at the most extreme and demanding settings you could possibly have.

That too. Even an RX 5700 would work well.

That's the one card series I hesitate to recommend. RDNA 1 is downlevel hardware incapable of running the full DX12 extensions, and with cards like the 6600 and 6600 XT obtainable relatively cheap, there isn't much of a point IMO. Unless getting a 5700 XT for like double digits on the dollar scale, lol

Just different perspectives.... I look at it and see the worst 60 class product Nvidia has released in the last decade

Perhaps the critical mistake is associating this product with what used to be the 60 series. I think that since they've reintroduced the Ti and then sprinkled it with the SUPER branding, this SKU numbering has effectively grown irrelevant as it has been skewed significantly upwards. The RTX 4060 is the lowest end product they currently offer and it should be treated as such. Think of it with the same lenses you would think of the GT 1030, and pretty much everything falls into place.

The problem is price, but cheap GPUs are now a thing of the past. It made sense for a $99 card to be the lowest end when the flagship was $999, with the midrange slotting at 200-300 and the performance segment card being 599-699, but now, the flagship starts at $1999, meaning you aren't really going to get one at that price unless you 1. buy a basic model and 2. get very lucky about it. So yes, 300 bucks is the cheapest you get a card these days, and yes, it's a card that should cost half that at best, but you can apply this throughout the stack.

I see the 5060 and 4060 as cards on the lineage of the GTX 1050 and 1650 non-Ti models, the exception to this somewhat would be the RTX 3050 which uses a cut down version of the same core the 3060 uses on its desktop variant, the GA107 is mostly used on laptops.

 

[JustBenching]

5070ti die is still larger and is using significantly more expensive memory so it's hard so say which card cost less to make. Sure AMDs design is more dense but they are still using less silicon per die and much slower memory for a card that isn't that much slower.

Personally I dont find either card overly impressive but if they were $150 usd apart I have a hard time deciding what to buy the last amd card that made me think twice was the 290X.

Its larger cause it uses an older node. An older node is i assume cheaper. If you wanna take the faster ram out of the equation you can look at 4xxx nvidia gpus. The 4080 and the 4080s have less transietors than the 7900xtx and the 9070XT and they are still faster while also using less power.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Its larger cause it uses an older node. An older node is i assume cheaper. If you wanna take the faster ram out of the equation you can look at 4xxx nvidia gpus. The 4080 and the 4080s have less transietors than the 7900xtx and the 9070XT and they are still faster while also using less power.

We are nuking this thread over a bunch of meh gpus lol.


Bottom line at 300 usd the op is only gonna have 2 new option or the used market in 2 weeks he'll have the whole picture lol.

 

[pf100]

…then buy a GPU with more grunt and, accordingly, more VRAM since that’s what you would need to drive 1440p and 4K anyway? I don’t see the issue? 5060, for better or worse, is a card for people still running 1080p screens and mostly playing popular online games and/or just wanting “good enough” performance in mainstream AAA titles on console equivalent settings. So, for the vast majority out there. Just like the 4060 turned out to be. I am not sure why enthusiasts keep deluding themselves into thinking that the maximalist view of “maxed out, 1440p minimum, 120 FPS, Final Destination” is something widespread beyond forums like these.
Mind you, this isn’t me defending NVidia, but the market is what it is.

The 5060's street price is $300+. I'm trying to understand how a $300+ gpu with 8gb is okay. What would it have cost nvidia to put 12gb on it? An extra $40 max? Then put 12gb on it and sell it for 40 more dollars. That's what they should have done since I don't consider a $300 gpu entry level. $200 is entry level.

 

[JustBenching]

The 5060's street price is $400+. I'm trying to understand how a $400+ gpu with 8gb is okay. What would it have cost nvidia to put 12gb on it? An extra $40 max? Then put 12gb on it and sell it for 40 more dollars. That's what they should have done since I don't consider a $400 gpu entry level.

Why do we need to make stuff up man? Did you actually check the prices? Its 299$, you can find it on stock at that price

 

[Rover4444]

FYI - most of the time he plays LOL.

I'm sorry. That must be very hard on you.

Last I checked a 3060 12G is going for 240-280 on ebay not sure that is worth going for vs a 5060. I think I would take the warranty and the 30-50% extra performance at 299.

My guess is it's holding strong because it's still the cheapest Nvidia card with more than 8GB. 3060ti is in the same ballpark though 240-280.

As much as I love the 3060, you're right on the money. It's definitely not worth that much, the 5060 is the better card for that price especially with that warranty. 3060 Ti would probably be the best option if 5060 prices don't get near MSRP though.

 

[Bomby569]

People be testing the 5060 on ultra high settings and complaining about performance. Yeah it's a budget card. Try medium settings. You'll be surprised how max textures and low textures quality looks the same these days.

Everything is made for consoles and ported to PC. I would like to see a 3060, 4060 and 5060 showdown on medium settings.

I'm sure HUB already tested the 5060 in 1440p ultra settings, despite making a prior video saying ultra settings is stupid. Blame the clickbait influencers.

 

[chrcoluk]

Shocking behaviour from nvidia but it's not the first time either. Pathetic, just like the 5060.

The scary thing is it highlights how much control they have on the review industry (who consider themselves independent, but yet seem to have problems carrying out reviews without getting their hand held by the vendor).

If Nvidia e.g. think they have a bad product and dont want bad reviews, just refuse samples, job done. Same reason we barely get reviews of low end motherboards.

 

[gasolin]

The 5060 is basically a 4060 Ti. Your best bet is probably to wait for the 9060 XT 16 GB to drop, it will outlast any of the 8 GB Nvidia models (xx60 series) and you won't get the "Dad I need a new GPU" so soon
You'll find people here mercilessly defending 8 GB cards, but the truth is, they already have problems playing todays games and since you seem to keep your hardware for a long time, you should "invest" in a 16 GB model, the price isn't that much higher.

Doom the dark ages use over 10gb in 1440p medium

 

[Frick]

Why do we need to make stuff up man? Did you actually check the prices? Its 299$, you can find it on stock at that price

€450 here man. Also I did have a look at Amazon, $320 and upward, and Newegg has them out of stock with a note "They may or may not be restocked". It remains to be seen if the $300 price will actually hold or if in a few weeks it a de facto $400 card.

Don't disagree, but there is the concern that street prices on 9060 XT 16 GB and 5060 Ti 16 GB will remain inflated due to demand and the fact that the 8 GB cards are being actively campaigned against at this point. Most people don't really have the knowledge to discern between them based on merit, so they'll gravitate towards either the cheapest, or what tech influencers tell them to get. With most big outlets calling the 8 GB card the "dumbest purchase you can make", even though I think that is some serious hyperbole, it's not hard to figure out which model will face the highest demand.

It all depends on how you look at it. Given the current state and if you can acutally get one for 299 USD ... that's ok, given the current state. But given the fact that the 3060ti was released four and a half years ago and had an MSRP of $400 it's shit.

I'm sure HUB already tested the 5060 in 1440p ultra settings, despite making a prior video saying ultra settings is stupid. Blame the clickbait influencers.

TPU does that too.

 

[JustBenching]

€450 here man. Also I did have a look at Amazon, $320 and upward, and Newegg has them out of stock with a note "They may or may not be restocked". It remains to be seen if the $300 price will actually hold or if in a few weeks it a de facto $400 card.

It all depends on how you look at it. Given the current state and if you can acutally get one for 299 USD ... that's ok, given the current state. But given the fact that the 3060ti was released four and a half years ago and had an MSRP of $400 it's shit.


TPU does that too.

Where is the here? I can find it in EU for 317. In stock of course, no preorders.