RTX 5060 - No Reviews?

[Onasi]

I think for esports higher resolution is better, because it increases the chances that you will be able to see something which is otherwise very blurry / invisible on lower resolutions.
Look at the ball in the following example, in which case do you see it better?

Static clarity is irrelevant in competitive games. What matters is motion performance. And nothing in the 4K world can deliver the combination of high framerate and almost CRT-like motion like high refresh BFI enabled 1080p TN panels can. There’s a reason why Zowie monitors are a staple of CS. They are absolutely fucking terrible for anything else other than high level competition and nobody who is not a pro or planning on going pro should even consider them, but in their niche they are superior.

 

[JustBenching]

Static clarity is irrelevant in competitive games. What matters is motion performance. And nothing in the 4K world can deliver the combination of high framerate and almost CRT-like motion like high refresh BFI enabled 1080p TN panels can. There’s a reason why Zowie monitors are a staple of CS. They are absolutely fucking terrible for anything else other than high level competition and nobody who is not a pro or planning on going pro should even consider them, but in their niche they are superior.

Oh well, oleds are getting there.

 

[Onasi]

@JustBenching
There are still no high refresh 1080p 24 inch panels, which is the preferred form-factor for the players. And I have a feeling that another issue will be that the tournament organizers might not be interested in screens with an expiration date built in. Plus, there are other benefits to Zowie screens - being able to set them up exactly the same by each player every tournament is a big one, that stand is outrageously good. But yeah, if there ever will be a hypothetical 24 inch OLED and Zowie releases a model based on it - things might change.

 

[lexluthermiester]

There are still no high refresh 1080p 24 inch panels

Define high refresh rate. For some people, anything above 60hz falls under that classification, myself included.

 

[Onasi]

@lexluthermiester
I personally follow Tim from Monitor Unboxed on this one and consider 144-180Hz range now mainstream and (his term, not mine) medium refresh. It’s a tenuous overall terminology, granted. But, since we were talking about e-sports and professional player oriented models, pretty much nothing below 360Hz would be viable (hell, a lot of tournaments are running 600Hz models now), so that would be the target in my eyes.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I personally follow Tim from Monitor Unboxed on this one and consider 144-180Hz range now mainstream and (his term, not mine) medium refresh.

While I can see that point, 60hz 1080p is the vastly dominant spec in use.

But, since we were talking about e-sports and professional player oriented models, pretty much nothing below 360Hz would be viable (hell, a lot of tournaments are running 600Hz models now), so that would be the target in my eyes.

In a thread about the 5060? I'm not seeing that. 60hz is the most likely refresh rate that will be paired with such a card. And that is both completely ok and completely acceptable.

Remember, most people are not the elite enthusiasts we are. We are the exception, not the rule and we need to remember that at all times.

 

[Macro Device]

60hz is the most likely refresh rate that will be paired with such a card

I've seen more non-enthusiasts with 100+ Hz refresh rate displays than I've seen those with 60—75 Hz refresh rate displays if we're talking 1080p. 1080p60 is dying, especially now since you can get a 1080p144 display for just over 100 bucks. 60 is also fading away in the 1440p territory. It's only a huge majority in the land of 4K upwards.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I've seen more non-enthusiasts with 100+ Hz refresh rate displays than I've seen those with 60—75 Hz refresh rate displays if we're talking 1080p.

I have not. Most of the systems I see, and I see many, have 60hz screens. Higher refresh rate displays are becoming more common, but they are not anywhere near the majority.

1080p60 is dying

That depends on who you talk too.

60 is also fading away in the 1440p territory.

Also depends.

 

[Onasi]

While I can see that point, 60hz 1080p is the vastly dominant spec in use.

…I never argued otherwise?

In a thread about the 5060? I'm not seeing that. 60hz is the most likely refresh rate that will be paired with such a card. And that is both completely ok and completely acceptable.

Remember, most people are not the elite enthusiasts we are. We are the exception, not the rule and we need to remember that at all times.

There were posts before mine providing context. On the previous page and first one on this.

I've seen more non-enthusiasts with 100+ Hz refresh rate displays than I've seen those with 60—75 Hz refresh rate displays if we're talking 1080p. 1080p60 is dying, especially now since you can get a 1080p144 display for just over 100 bucks. 60 is also fading away in the 1440p territory. It's only a huge majority in the land of 4K upwards.

Yeah, AOC has been selling their 144Hz 1080p offerings for peanuts for several years now. And now, endemic Chinese brands are also expanding outside their home country with similar products. It’s not fully complete yet, but I do believe that in a year or two 1080p60 will be fully consigned to the ultra budget segment that’s mostly popular with bulk B2B buyers.

 

[Macro Device]

Looked up monitors and GPUs. The cheapest 4k144 display and the cheapest 5060 you can get in Russia cost the same money. I'd pick the former any day.

 

[lexluthermiester]

There were posts before mine providing context. On the previous page and first one on this.

Ah, seems I missed those comments. Sorry.

I'd pick the former any day.

Not everyone would because not everyone is in the same place in life.

 

[Macro Device]

Not everyone would because not everyone is in the same place in life.

Sure. I'm just saying good monitors became extremely affordable. Unlike 300–600 dollar GPUs that receive more and more planned obsolescence every generation.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Sure. I'm just saying good monitors became extremely affordable. Unlike 300–600 dollar GPUs that receive more and more planned obsolescence every generation.

Fair points.

 

[Hecate91]

Had it not been for the fake MSRP the 9070 cards would be at #1 and #2 respectively.

A couple of people called the fake MSRP a while ago but it got shoved under the radar. I've been saying since after launch that the "retail scalper" prices were just what AMD initially intended and they'll milk it for as long as they sell. NVIDIA has done more to reduce prices despite their initial shenanigans. Don't want to get too off topic so I'll cut that there.

Well, In the US retailers have been scalping the most popular sold GPU's for several gpu generations now, AMD tried to rebate the 9070/9070XT to MSRP, but after rebates ended retailers were free to charge whatever they wanted. I don't care how tinfoil hat it sounds, but given how Nvidia has treated their AIBs (just look at EVGA and lost margins on every card sold) I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia were threatening the retailers to sell at MSRP or not having any cards to sell at all.

Looked up monitors and GPUs. The cheapest 4k144 display and the cheapest 5060 you can get in Russia cost the same money. I'd pick the former any day.

A 4K 144Hz monitor would also have much more longevity than a 8GB graphics card.

I don't see what monitors have to do with the discussion. I doubt the competitive sweaty try hards are buying 5060's, the 5060Ti doesn't maintain over 310FPS @1080P in CS for a 600Hz monitor.

 

[Onasi]

I don't care how tinfoil hat it sounds, but given how Nvidia has treated their AIBs (just look at EVGA and lost margins on every card sold) I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia were threatening the retailers to sell at MSRP or not having any cards to sell at all.

NVidia straight up doesn’t deal with retailers. Not how this works. They have no influence on whether or not they get cards. It’s all on AIBs. The only direct to customer products in the consumer segment NV ever sold are the FEs. And arguably Titans. What they MIGHT do is not selling enough GPU+memory packages to AIBs to build cards with compared to the demand, but that’s another thing entirely.

 

[leonavis]

NVidia straight up doesn’t deal with retailers. Not how this works. They have no influence on whether or not they get cards. It’s all on AIBs. The only direct to customer products in the consumer segment NV ever sold are the FEs. And arguably Titans. What they MIGHT do is not selling enough GPU+memory packages to AIBs to build cards with compared to the demand, but that’s another thing entirely.

They apparantly however try to control whom their AIBs give review-cards to.

So I guess if Nvidia wanted that, they could very well influence which retailer gets cards. I'm not saying they're doing that, since I have no idea if they do. Given how Nvidia acts however, I don't think it's far-fetched that retailers that act against Nvidia's wishes could experience a shortage.

 

[wheresmycar]

5060

Pros
Best performance per $ for now
Adequate 1080p performance
Efficient

Cons
Poor generational improvements but this has been a theme for the sub 500 usd marker for 2 generations now so I'm doubtful going forward things will change.

Toss up
8GB of vram might not age well but as long as the buyer is aware of the limitations and is ok with them it doesn't matter also in 2025 it's hard to get somthing that's better with more vram 3060 12GB is much slower and even used not much cheaper the 6600-6650XT could be an option but being limited to older FSR and very weak RT perfomance when more and more games are requiring both is at least a consideration.

Side note

The competing AMD cards release at the beginning of June best to wait to see what they offer.

Thanks man! Just had the chance to watch a quick review.

"adequate 1080p performance" in 2025 doesn't sound very appealing and no doubt the generational uplift of late is borderline ridiculous. Perhaps the future holds greater emphasis on card features and fine-tuning (or better put, lower settings) to give these cards a miserable short term thumbs up. But, $300 for this sort of fleeting feasibility, thats a whole different headache. Like my Gran says: "splendid" - for the featherweight titles but for the newer release big guns rolling in, its a hard pass!

The competing AMD cards release at the beginning of June best to wait to see what they offer.

Not expecting anything better from AMD either other than the lower priced 16GB model. Its about time these GPU manufacturers hit closer to the mainstream $300+ sweet-spot with no-nonsense cards to carry forward. $350 for the 16GB model sounds promising on paper but leave it to AIBs and retailers to mess it up in the real world.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Thanks man! Just had the chance to watch a quick review.

"adequate 1080p performance" in 2025 doesn't sound very appealing and no doubt the generational uplift of late is borderline ridiculous. Perhaps the future holds greater emphasis on card features and fine-tuning (or better put, lower settings) to give these cards a miserable short term thumbs up. But, $300 for this sort of fleeting feasibility, thats a whole different headache. Like my Gran says: "splendid" - for the featherweight titles but for the newer release big guns rolling in, its a hard pass!



Not expecting anything better from AMD either other than the lower priced 16GB model. Its about time these GPU manufacturers hit closer to the mainstream $300+ sweet-spot with no-nonsense cards to carry forward. $350 for the 16GB model sounds promising on paper but leave it to AIBs and retailers to mess it up in the real world.

Regardless of if we like it or not we probably have to start viewing 300 usd as the new 220 usd in 2025 a lot of previous 60 class cards would approach 400 usd in 2025 money and that isn't even factoring in TSMC as the main culprit for bad gpu pricing even at these cards respective msrp.


At least till the 9060XT releases the reality is this is the best card currently you can buy new on a budget and while I think this class of card should come with 10-12GB of vram it isn't in Nvidia best interest to supply cards with that configuration if the 9060XT 16GB ends up good and msrp I wouldn't be surprised if we see a 5060 Super with 12GB with those 3Gb modules because I still like to think Nvidia has some pride but what is likely to happen is most won't be able to get that variant for less than 400 usd #competition....

 

[Sunny and 75]

A 4K 144Hz monitor would also have much more longevity than a 8GB graphics card.

Night and day difference, for sure.

factoring in TSMC as the main culprit for bad gpu pricing even at these cards respective msrp.

That does NOT justify skimping on VRAM.

I think this class of card should come with 10-12GB of vram

At least 12GB.

 

[wheresmycar]

Regardless of if we like it or not we probably have to start viewing 300 usd as the new 220 usd in 2025 a lot of previous 60 class cards would approach 400 usd in 2025 money and that isn't even factoring in TSMC as the main culprit for bad gpu pricing even at these cards respective msrp.


At least till the 9060XT releases the reality is this is the best card currently you can buy new on a budget and while I think this class of card should come with 10-12GB of vram it isn't in Nvidia best interest to supply cards with that configuration if the 9060XT 16GB ends up good and msrp I wouldn't be surprised if we see a 5060 Super with 12GB with those 3Gb modules because I still like to think Nvidia has some pride but what is likely to happen is most won't be able to get that variant for less than 400 usd #competition....

No doubt about it- we've been seeing $300+ in this space for 5/more years now. It's fair to suggest that is the new norm and acceptable providing the 60-class segment is clearly defined and not lumped with neutered performance. Thats just speaking broadly to keep things in line with the somewhat bearable mainstream sentiment... you know, going with the flow. From my personal perspective, the gap between the class-of-60 and flagship, gen-2-gen, is stretching wider and soon we'll be able to jump on a boat and sail the Pacific through it. Its always just about enough performance for the mainstream crowd like a performance starvation diet repelling what could, would and should have been. Its this type of tightly knit wartime-like performance rationing at the lower end, all while prices stay afloat/high, thats made me far more understanding of the criticism we’re seeing lately. All this noise around VRAM, MSRP and street prices are all valid points but the way performance tiers are being sliced up and dressed is getting far less scrutiny than it should. The price we pay for this damned duopoly!

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Another review because more data is never a bad thing.

 

[Sunny and 75]

From my personal perspective, the gap between the class-of-60 and flagship, gen-2-gen, is stretching wider and soon we'll be able to jump on a boat and sail the Pacific through it. Its always just about enough performance for the mainstream crowd like a performance starvation diet repelling what could, would and should have been. Its this type of tightly knit wartime-like performance rationing at the lower end, all while prices stay afloat/high, thats made me far more understanding of the criticism we’re seeing lately. All this noise around VRAM, MSRP and street prices are all valid points but the way performance tiers are being sliced up and dressed is getting far less scrutiny than it should. The price we pay for this damned duopoly!

I absolutely LOVE your perspective

Xe3 to the rescue then, in 2026

 

[JustBenching]

Regardless of if we like it or not we probably have to start viewing 300 usd as the new 220 usd in 2025 a lot of previous 60 class cards would approach 400 usd in 2025 money and that isn't even factoring in TSMC as the main culprit for bad gpu pricing even at these cards respective msrp.


At least till the 9060XT releases the reality is this is the best card currently you can buy new on a budget and while I think this class of card should come with 10-12GB of vram it isn't in Nvidia best interest to supply cards with that configuration if the 9060XT 16GB ends up good and msrp I wouldn't be surprised if we see a 5060 Super with 12GB with those 3Gb modules because I still like to think Nvidia has some pride but what is likely to happen is most won't be able to get that variant for less than 400 usd #competition....

A cheap high vram GPU is not in nvidias best interest. It has nothing to do with planned obsolescence and all that crap, it has to do with local LLMs sadly being able to take advantage of up to 6x GPUs. A 16gb 5060 at 299$ gives you access to 96gb for 1800$. That's why im surprised that the 5060ti 16gb even exists for that price, it really is a gift.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

A cheap high vram GPU is not in nvidias best interest. It has nothing to do with planned obsolescence and all that crap, it has to do with local LLMs sadly being able to take advantage of up to 6x GPUs. A 16gb 5060 at 299$ gives you access to 96gb for 1800$. That's why im surprised that the 5060ti 16gb even exists for that price, it really is a gift.

I didn't mention it becuase of how obvious it is but AI is definitely the other major contributing factor to terrible gaming gpus why waste silicon on pleb gamers when you can sell it for 10x-20x more.

It's why even though I'm annoyed at the stagnation of the 5060 if it was a more desirable 12-16GB card it would cost a hell of a lot more than $299 cuz of the ai bandwagon everyone is jumping on.

My guess to why the 5060ti 16GB isn't more popular most likely due to the 4060ti not being significantly worse and also having a 16GB model still at least here it's 60-70 over msrp.

Gamers need a lot of things to happen before we see a half decent generation again I probably won't be alive when that day comes or the machines will have ended us first.

 

[Bomby569]

A cheap high vram GPU is not in nvidias best interest. It has nothing to do with planned obsolescence and all that crap, it has to do with local LLMs sadly being able to take advantage of up to 6x GPUs. A 16gb 5060 at 299$ gives you access to 96gb for 1800$. That's why im surprised that the 5060ti 16gb even exists for that price, it really is a gift.

all gpu's are a gift right now, even the rtx 5090, they could be making more money selling the same silicon to AI. But sure they want gpu's to eat as little as possible of the AI market.
But nothing of this is that outrageous, it's a public company, they would be sued if they did any different. It sucks but it's also the truth