Janky Chinese Erying m-ATX motherboard with Intel 13th Gen ES 14c/20T Processor

[sepheronx]

Hello TPU'ers. I got a build I am working on and figure I would share it.

Disclaimer:

Yes, this is a Chinese Motherboard + CPU Combo system. I know there are some members here who hate China and Chinese stuff and made that rather clear in another thread I had. There is no possible craps less about your opinion on the political side of things. So if you want to complain about it, talk to someone who gives a hoot.

Now, lets get on with it.

Story:

So when I was building my dying sisters home theater PC so she can enjoy the comfort of gaming from her bed in her final months (hopefully longer I pray but anyway) using a janky Chinese B650i motherboard, I was having a few drinks and decided to browse Aliexpress. Low and behold, I came upon this:

And someone on reddit had posted a coupon code that brought this down to $230 Canadian Rupees. So of course, I decided to jump to it.

Well, after a week and half, it came in the mail:






Yeah, came in bad shape the box, but surprisingly the board was unharmed.

I then purchased a kit of DDR5 6000 CL30 ram (same kit I purchased for my sisters machine using the chinese B650i motherboard).



I put the system together using a spare RTX 3060 I had laying about, this ram, a basic 120gb SSD just to load windows to test and a Thermalright Assassin Spirt 120 V2 that I had purchased for my sisters build but ended up being too large. Good thing I kept it instead of returning.




Testing:

Well, so far in my limited time I had to play around with this, I have compared my current Alienware R10 and this machine in the only benchmark I ran, Cinebench 2024:
(I have used Intel Extreme Tuning Utility to increase TDP from 95W to 130W as I couldn't find what to adjust it in the BIOS)


CPU-Z Benchmark of Janky Board:

CPU-Z Benchmark of 5700X3D:



Cinebench 2024 Results Janky Build:


AMD Ryzen 5700X3D system Result:


For Future:

I plan to run obviously more benchmarks and stress testing. I also want to make sure OCCT passes of course. Plus I want to adjust the memory to be closer to the proper XMP config but I dont think I will be successful seeing as how this board will only really take 5600MT/s as the fastest. I will also be playing with the BIOS (very limited) in order to figure out the CPU OC'ing so I don't have to make adjustments in XTU. Plus when it comes to games benchmarking, I want to compare it with same GPU (RTX 3080). If everything turns out great, I will be using this as my main rig and the AMD will go to my daughter.

 

[Dr. Dro]

My brother has an Erying motherboard quite similar to this, but it's a Tiger Lake model with a retail version Core i9-11980HK. I personally didn't find it janky, it worked well the little time I've tried it out. I found the motherboard to actually be of rather high quality to be honest. He's got an RTX 3070 in it and the thing is actually pretty amazing for the price. The Q1J0 ES processor yours has is supposed to be a very early engineering sample of the i7-13700H processor, so I suppose it's the same deal, adapted laptop processor on a micro ATX motherboard.

At least the one he has seems to have a reference AMI Aptio BIOS that has more features than I've ever seen before in any motherboard. It's so many that I doubt some of them even work...

 

[sepheronx]

My brother has an Erying motherboard quite similar to this, but it's a Tiger Lake model with a retail version Core i9-11980HK. I personally didn't find it janky, it worked well the little time I've tried it out. I found the motherboard to actually be of rather high quality to be honest. He's got an RTX 3070 in it and the thing is actually pretty amazing for the price

At least the one he has seems to have a reference AMI Aptio BIOS that has more features than I've ever seen before in any motherboard. It's so many that I doubt some of them even work...

Someone I was reading on ali ended up at 200W TDP and was able to get quite the performance out of it. But honestly, it will be pushing the VRM way too much as it gets real hot. So 150W may be max I will go. The case I purchased for this rig that it will eventually go into is:

So I will try to find way to get cooling directly to VRM.

 

[DirtyDingusMcgee]

Seems like too nice a case for it. Yugo motor in a Lotus body.

 

[sepheronx]

Seems like too nice a case for it. Yugo motor in a Lotus body.

Funny thing is, this will be the best system in the house. If I can tune it even more, it will serve me for years.

Don't be knocking Yugos

 

[DirtyDingusMcgee]

They knock plenty without my help.

 

[Toothless]

Think it would be possible to have a custom VRM cooling thing going? Like actual finned heatsinks with a fan on it?

 

[sepheronx]

Think it would be possible to have a custom VRM cooling thing going? Like actual finned heatsinks with a fan on it?

Would be nice to have active cooling on it.

 

[R-T-B]

Looks fun, and the specs are anything but "Yugo" grade.

Hopefully the VRMs are up to snuff. That'd be the first place I'd beef up cooling on if able. Otherwise should be pretty sweet.

Question: That a full fat x16 slot? Sometimes the cheaper vendors don't wire them all up. As long as you have all 16 lanes I don't see much to sneeze at though...

 

[sepheronx]

Looks fun, and the specs are anything but "Yugo" grade.

Hopefully the VRMs are up to snuff. That'd be the first place I'd beef up cooling on if able. Otherwise should be pretty sweet.

Question: That a full fat x16 slot? Sometimes the cheaper vendors don't wire them all up.

No, it is pcie 5.0 at x8. Which is enough bandwidth anyway

 

[R-T-B]

No, it is pcie 5.0 at x8. Which is enough bandwidth anyway

well if it's 5.0 that's nearly as good as x16 4.0 so not much loss. I'd say you did ok.

Honestly as long as you get x8 4.0 to any modern card you are good.

 

[Dr. Dro]

As long as there are no major erratum with that engineering sample CPU, yeah, it'll be a solid, IMHO. Great build to use with a 5060 Ti (since that's x8 anyways). I think my brother's board does 4.0 x16, don't remember now. But I do know that it performs surprisingly well for a laptop chip, plus Tiger Lake has AVX-512 support, so rig is quite compatible and speedy. Looking at getting him off that 3070 sometime though.

 

[sepheronx]

As long as there are no major erratum with that engineering sample CPU, yeah, it'll be a solid, IMHO. Great build to use with a 5060 Ti (since that's x8 anyways). I think my brother's board does 4.0 x16, don't remember now. But I do know that it performs surprisingly well for a laptop chip, plus Tiger Lake has AVX-512 support, so rig is quite compatible and speedy. Looking at getting him off that 3070 sometime though.

Gamers nexus did a video and breakdown of a 5090 on pcie 5 down to 3 x16 to x8. On pcie 4.0 at x8 there was no difference or a difference of like 2% between pcie 5 x16 and pcie 4.0 x8.

So if the 5090 isn't struggling with the bandwidth, then I'm not worried and will even go for a 9070xt or next iteration for this.

I may just go for an AIO on this build to maximize cooling but at 130W tdp, I don't see it going beyond 53°C which means there is more room. I may crank it up further.

I may need some assistance on ocing. I am not bothered by ram too much as I've read that Intel isn't as picky on ram timings and speed as compared to AMD's mem controller.

My only concern is vrm if I wanna crank up the power to this.

AVX 512 is nice for certain emulators but I heard it really isn't utilized and whatever does use it, doesn't seem to give it as much performance boost as compared to what the 12th gen and up did in raw performance.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Gamers nexus did a video and breakdown of a 5090 on pcie 5 down to 3 x16 to x8. On pcie 4.0 at x8 there was no difference or a difference of like 2% between pcie 5 x16 and pcie 4.0 x8.

So if the 5090 isn't struggling with the bandwidth, then I'm not worried and will even go for a 9070xt or next iteration for this.

I may just go for an AIO on this build to maximize cooling but at 130W tdp, I don't see it going beyond 53°C which means there is more room. I may crank it up further.

I may need some assistance on ocing. I am not bothered by ram too much as I've read that Intel isn't as picky on ram timings and speed as compared to AMD's mem controller.

My only concern is vrm if I wanna crank up the power to this.

AVX 512 is nice for certain emulators but I heard it really isn't utilized and whatever does use it, doesn't seem to give it as much performance boost as compared to what the 12th gen and up did in raw performance.

I know, you'd be fine regardless, just saying it'd be a perfect match lane by lane, really.

I'm not sure that processor is unlocked, since it's supposed to be an H unit, might be being an ES, might not. The retail version 13700H is not. Only HK and HX laptop processors are unlocked. VRM is probably gonna be fine, worst case scenario make sure there's air moving in there.

 

[sepheronx]

And as for the 3070. I got a few of them I'm looking to get rid of. Gonna downgrade daughters gpus since all they play is fortnite and some real basic games at 1080p. So no point keeping the other 3080 and 6800xt. Might sell them too

 

[sepheronx]

If I can't overclock, I can at least increase overall TDP as it was initially stuck at 2.5GHz for all cores till I upped it then it did 3.5GHz on all cores. So it was starving for power. Another reviewer on Ali got it to 200 tdp and was able to get 5.1GHz on most cores.

 

[Dr. Dro]

If I can't overclock, I can at least increase overall TDP as it was initially stuck at 2.5GHz for all cores till I upped it then it did 3.5GHz on all cores. So it was starving for power. Another reviewer on Ali got it to 200 tdp and was able to get 5.1GHz on most cores.

Well, it's a mobile processor. It has the same constraints you'd find in a normal laptop that has the same processor, after all. Power might not even be the limitation itself, but rather the frequency curve built into the chip. I know the experience with the HK chips on Erying boards is great, this one should be fine, at least the turbo clocks you should be able to get.

 

[sepheronx]

Well, it's a mobile processor. It has the same constraints you'd find in a normal laptop that has the same processor, after all. Power might not even be the limitation itself, but rather the frequency curve built into the chip. I know the experience with the HK chips on Erying boards is great, this one should be fine, at least the turbo clocks you should be able to get.

And that's all that matters to me really. If I can get a sustained 4.5GHz on the cores when in heavy use, then it's ideal.

Right now it isn't in the case. Its just sitting on my bench. I imagine thermals will be better in the case as it is a constant airflow but for now, it will sit while I test.