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What's the best motherboard for a Ryzen 9950X ?

If you have coverage through ebay then that is good. Just didn't want you to be shit outta luck if it's busted on delivery.

Warranties are good.
 
blinnbanir said:
In this age of pins on the MB I would only buy new AM5.
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You wouldn't believe how many am5 boards I've seen on Ebay listed as "for parts/not working" due to bent socket pins :fear:

I bought a used X670E Crosshair Extreme from a dude claiming that the board still worked despite having cracked A1 and B1 ram slots and a few bent pins on the socket. Guy gave no shits when it came to packing the poor thing, either. While I did test the board and it was able to get into BIOS, I reached out to a motherboard repair shop, and the gentleman said the bent pins on the socket were power rail pins, and posed a real danger of touching, which would lead to arcing and result in a damaged CPU...

Even though I've decided to keep it and have it repaired, I'm wondering if I should get the seller to pay for the repairs...
 
:confused: :banghead:

The AM5 platform is a failure on all points:

1. Far beyond its sweet zone power consumption;
2. Wrong chiplets placement - results is heavy sabotaging of coolers' performace;
3. Pins on the motherboards, instead of the checked and much safer placement on the CPUs.
4. More?
 
freeagent said:
Stick to AM4 then :confused:

AM5 is fine, not sure what your problem is.
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AM4 is already a 9-year-old platform and counting. You won't keep the users forever on it.
There is a reason why AM4 still outsells AM5 - simply because AM5 is underengineered for the above mentioned points and overengineered because of the 5-th gen technologies which no one really needs.
 
ARF said:
AM4 is already a 9-year-old platform and counting. You won't keep the users forever on it.
There is a reason why AM4 still outsells AM5 - simply because AM5 is underengineered for the above mentioned points and overengineered because of the 5-th gen technologies which no one really needs.
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I dont know..

I had some of the best CPUs available for AM4, some of the best ram, the best config..

And my cheaper AM5 system absolutely smokes it in every possible way.

While using the same, or less power..
 
ARF said:
:confused: :banghead:

The AM5 platform is a failure on all points:

1. Far beyond its sweet zone power consumption;
2. Wrong chiplets placement - results is heavy sabotaging of coolers' performace;
3. Pins on the motherboards, instead of the checked and much safer placement on the CPUs.
4. More?
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Not sure why you're bitching about this as a point of "failure" for AM5 when Intel's been doing the LGA style socket for literally years, long before AMD.

But sure, you keep grasping at those straws, bud.
 
Gmr_Chick said:
Not sure why you're bitching about this as a point of "failure" for AM5 when Intel's been doing the LGA style socket for literally years, long before AMD.

But sure, you keep grasping at those straws, bud.
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Simple - because I don't work with, I don't buy and am not interested in anything Intel.
LGA is a mistake, let's hope AM6 will fix this, of course after AMD carefully evaluating the users' feedbacks.
 
ARF said:
Simple - because I don't work with, I don't buy and am not interested in anything Intel.
LGA is a mistake, let's hope AM6 will fix this, of course after AMD carefully evaluating the users' feedbacks.
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But your comments reek of Intel fanboyism - every time someone posts about a build they want to do, and the person mentions they want a build on the AM5 platform, there you are spouting nonsense about why it's a failure and yadda yadda. And again, saying LGA is a mistake you only mentioned AMD, when Intel's been doing LGA for far longer. And yet, you don't mention it as a failure/mistake on Intel, just AMD.

You're literally telling me you're an Intel fanboy without actually saying it.
 
ARF said:
:confused: :banghead:

The AM5 platform is a failure on all points:

1. Far beyond its sweet zone power consumption;
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Get a G series or Laptop AM5 CPU instead.
ARF said:
2. Wrong chiplets placement - results is heavy sabotaging of coolers' performace;
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Yet most people can still cool it sufficiently even with air coolers and still get great performance.
ARF said:
3. Pins on the motherboards, instead of the checked and much safer placement on the CPUs.
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Intel has been using LGA for a long time. Why is it now suddenly a problem? I will admit Threadripper LGA is somewhat scary.
ARF said:
4. More?
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LOL!, Look I'll be the first to complain AM5's major failing is insufficient number of PCIe lanes combined with lack of wider PCIe slot offerings for workstation uses, and some what larger inventory of overpriced motherboards compared to AM4, but failure on all points is kind of ridiculous.

Some AM5 highlights...
- iGPU with official ECC support with DDR5 (except with G series CPU's as before and excludes nearly all MSI motherboards this generation)
- iGPU in every CPU without the cutdown PCIe lanes (as opposed to AM4)
- Mostly good VRM's across the entire lineup. Enough that running a 16 core CPU isn't a worry.
- You can run a $700 16 core CPU in a $150 motherboard. (see my specs case in point)
- You can get a $350 to $400 16 core CPU if you are diligent hunting for deals
- 16 Core CPU's on AM5 are uniform (no big.little issues)
- At least 1 more generation of CPU before socket EOL
- More X3D CPU's options compared to AM4
- Plentiful USB2 ports
 
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I and my son have identical systems. For 5 year we had asus crosshair viii hero and 3950x and we were very satisfied with it. and just 1 month ago we changed to AM5 and 9950x3d with ASUS crosshair x870e hero. still satisfied, both systems are running flawlessly.

MB is expensive, I know, but because of good experience with ASUS-products we stayed with ASUS MB. But that does not mean, that the crosshair x870e hero is the best for 9950x ( or 9950x3d).
 
Is there a best?
 
freeagent said:
Is there a best?
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I do not know. and therefore I stick to something, which is a little bit more expensive with the hope it will be a little bit better,too. It's only a feeling, no provable opinion.
 
A Computer Guy said:
Some AM5 highlights...
- You can run a $700 16 core CPU in a $150 motherboard. (see my specs case in point)
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You can also run the opposite - a $150 CPU in a $700 motherboard - it would be stupid if you kill the motherboard - it is expensive.
 
Gmr_Chick said:
But your comments reek of Intel fanboyism - every time someone posts about a build they want to do, and the person mentions they want a build on the AM5 platform, there you are spouting nonsense about why it's a failure and yadda yadda. And again, saying LGA is a mistake you only mentioned AMD, when Intel's been doing LGA for far longer. And yet, you don't mention it as a failure/mistake on Intel, just AMD.

You're literally telling me you're an Intel fanboy without actually saying it.
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He's actually an AMD exclusive user, I'd even say fan. He just really hates LGA it seems lol.

Personally I prefer it. I've bent a few processor pins in my time removing coolers from PGA rigs and it was not fun.
I'd suggest ARF get used to it because the industry shows no sign of going back.

ARF said:
a $150 CPU in a $700 motherboard
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But why?
 
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