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Fractal Design Meshify 3 Ambience Pro RGB

sometimes compromises have to be made in the name of aesthetics and more moving parts lol
Yeah, same thing goes for me

Micro-ATX and ATX mid-towers is my sweetspot
Mid-towers do look neater whether it's ATX or (especially) Micro-ATX but I'm leaning towards ATX ones, I mean, the possibility of being able to run 4 NVMe drives on one board is just too good to pass.
 
180mm and it doesn’t matter - it comes with a bracket for the front so that you can throw whatever standard 120 or 140 fans in there you could want. It’s great. The Torrent is by far the best case Fractal has ever released.
That and replacements are readily available. So you can switch to RGB or Black. I love my Torrent Compact. I have been meaning to put my eldest sons rig in it, this weekend I will. Can also fit a 360 upfront if you have a medium GPU.
 
The XL model supports 360/420 rads and GPUs up to 500mm in length but starting at $170 for the non-RGB version https://www.fractal-design.com/prod...fy-3-xl/ambience-pro-rgb-black-tg-light-tint/

Too long for my personal desk space with that massive 575mm case length and a bit hard on the wallet for the price.
The XL variant does indeed offer better compatibility but with those dimensions, it would have been kind of impossible for it not to. That thing is huge. They should have made the case a bit longer/deeper to allow for a couple more centimeters of clearance. Kind of similar to how could have made their Lancool 207 just like a centimeter wider, which would have meant little to the overall aesthetics and dimensions but made a huge improvement to the PSU support and cable management.
 
chart topping stock performance
Just remember that TPUs testing methodology makes the thermal charts a bit pointless - that there are better cooling cases that were simply reviewed without fans. The TPU charts are unfortunately also an mITX board with a low-profile air cooler, and a tiny GPU by today's standards without blow-through cooling - about as far removed from the sort of system that people will actually put in these cases as you can get.

Don't get me wrong, the Meshify 3 is a well-cooled case, but plenty of other cases on the market have as much (or in many cases even more) airflow than this - it's just that the TPU testing methodology doesn't give them a chance if their stock configuration omits fans - which is extremely common since many of the best cases are radiator-focused designs where buyers would end up wastefully throwing out fans if they were included.
 
Just remember that TPUs testing methodology makes the thermal charts a bit pointless - that there are better cooling cases that were simply reviewed without fans.

Don't get me wrong, the Meshify 3 is a well-cooled case, but plenty of other cases on the market have as much (or in many cases even more) airflow than this - it's just that the TPU testing methodology doesn't give them a chance if their stock configuration omits fans - which is extremely common since many of the best cases are radiator-focused designs where buyers would end up wastefully throwing out fans if they were included.

I agree, the stock configuration testing method has its drawbacks when it comes to flexing those case cooling muscles. For ones with no fans or weak cooling, no doubt, at stock they lose their ability to fully shine but some of that drag is mitigated with the test setup's 240/280/360 (2/3 fans) CPU cooler (depending on cases allowances).

The upside is, these days, a lot of cases come with decent airflow and 3+ fans out the box. A good number included in TPU charts, like the Montech AIR Pro, Torrent, Lancool 216, Phanteks G500A, the old Corsair 465X (owned), etc. The Lian Li 217 review is about to drop with 5 fans and its already knocked the Mesh 3 off the top spot on CPU temps but a bit behind on GPU. The performance difference is no-doubt negligible but you know how it is, us lads treat every performance metric like its life and death. Point is, even if its not all about max performance or fair comparisons, well-cooled stock setups still reveal meaningful performance characteristics.

Speaking of "throwing out fans" - This is less likely if you're buying a case designed with a complete out of the box experience in mind, usually optimized for both airflow and aesthetics. Similar to my old and still in use Corsair 465X and the Lancool 216 (the latter which I've been eyeing for some time) - and theres more. It's in this sort of space, where the Meshify 3's stock aesthetic forms the core part of the case's identity, where you'd expect the buyer to stick with the stock config.

It's just a shame Mesh 3's full experience (proprietary fan controls, HUB and case lighting) is only made possible for a silly asking price. In the least, for the $160 variant, Fractal should have offered those higher led count 'case lighting' strips alongside premium RGB fans without the overpriced and perhaps over-hyped ambience nonsense.
 
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I agree, the stock configuration testing method has its drawbacks when it comes to flexing those case cooling muscles. For ones with no fans or weak cooling, no doubt, at stock they lose their ability to fully shine but some of that drag is mitigated with the test setup's 240/280/360 (2/3 fans) CPU cooler (depending on cases allowances).
If I understand the test setup correctly, the AIO's are used for the assembly testing to assess ease of building, cable management features etc but they are NOT part of the thermal testing. Thermal testing is this standardised setup:

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@Darksaber please correct me if I'm not understanding this part.
 
I was about to say this is my new case the Black solid verison, but yet again FD does not provided the Fan controller/rgb hub less it in the $200+ verison. which should just come with cases at this point
which are all verisons that had glass panels sides and RGB crap, I dont want RGB I dont want widows sidepanels:(
 
If I understand the test setup correctly, the AIO's are used for the assembly testing to assess ease of building, cable management features etc but they are NOT part of the thermal testing. Thermal testing is this standardised setup:

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@Darksaber please correct me if I'm not understanding this part.

I think you're right....

Our test setup focuses on four components small enough to fit into every chassis format.

All this time ive been looking to the "review system setup" and lol fast forwarding to the charts as soon as I hit 'the thermal stress test" page. That ones on me.

That certainly exacerbates the issue of the case not reaching its full cooling potential.
 
I am trying to get away from RGB.. but I think I like it :banghead:

I like the full blown RGB version of this case.. but there are a lot of nice cases coming out soon..
 
I am trying to get away from RGB.. but I think I like it :banghead:

I like the full blown RGB version of this case.. but there are a lot of nice cases coming out soon..

I was the same... after a few flashy RGB builds, which I usually set to a single colour with a more minimalist approach, I finally resisted and pledged allegiance to the dark side: The Silent Brute - https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/your-pc-atm.65012/post-5230116 I did cheat though, picked up a RGB cooler but to compensate - lighting disabled.

Didn’t take long before the RGB circus came calling for its favourite clown. Yep, can't resist no more - just gimme that squeaky red nose and TAKE ME!
 
Meshify 3 XL please.. (Sucker for big cases)
 
I had to check.. this thing is tiny compared to my case.. plus my case weighs 16 kilos with nothing in it..
 
I had to check.. this thing is tiny compared to my case.. plus my case weighs 16 kilos with nothing in it..

Blimey! My SILENT 601 weighs 10kg and I thought that was heavy. I just checked your specs, the Asus ProArt PA602 is a pretty neat looking BAD-ASS of a case... but 16KG will murder my back.
 
Meshify 3 XL please.. (Sucker for big cases)


No reset button? $220? $120 more than last gen? WTF! The XL version is only $30 more.
Love my meshify C and Meshify 2XL
 


No reset button? $220? $120 more than last gen? WTF! The XL version is only $30 more.
Love my meshify C and Meshify 2XL

Why people need a reset button ?.
 
Why people need a reset button ?
Because motherboards have a header for it, and you can use it for RGBLED controllers if you don't want to use it for the reset function? It costs $0.05 or something, so I don't know why a $220 case can't include it.
 
Because motherboards have a header for it, and you can use it for RGBLED controllers if you don't want to use it for the reset function? It costs $0.05 or something, so I don't know why a $220 case can't include it.

Useless to me, would like see more of a real switch than a reset button, it/s one thing i hate about the Torrent the switch works but it's just a cheap button like the case in question.
 
Useless to me, would like see more of a real switch than a reset button, it/s one thing i hate about the Torrent the switch works but it's just a cheap button like the case in question.
Not sure what you mean, an on/off toggle switch like the ones on the back of PSUs?

All cases just use a cheap diapragm button these days. It doesn't seem to matter how much you spend, either - that's just what the case industry has moved to.
 
Because its easier than reaching around, unplugging the PC, and waiting, plugging back in. Weird stuff happens from time to time, even on stable rigs.
Why people need a reset button ?.
 
Not sure what you mean, an on/off toggle switch like the ones on the back of PSUs?

All cases just use a cheap diapragm button these days. It doesn't seem to matter how much you spend, either - that's just what the case industry has moved to.

Yeah real shame that is, a good quality mechanical switch.

Because its easier than reaching around, unplugging the PC, and waiting, plugging back in. Weird stuff happens from time to time, even on stable rigs.

No issue here just holding the power button in and just pressing it again.
 


No reset button? $220? $120 more than last gen? WTF! The XL version is only $30 more.
Love my meshify C and Meshify 2XL
Fractal Engineers must have been smoking some sort of weed..reset button missing..wtf..I have the Meshify 2XL as my home server case..I also have the Define 6 (previous server case)
 
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