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And this is what I was talking about above..
And this is what I was talking about above..
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Motherboard | ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Apex Encore |
Cooling | Pichau Lunara ARGB 360 + Honeywell PTM7950 |
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Video Card(s) | Palit GameRock OC GeForce RTX 5090 32 GB |
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Benchmark Scores | I pulled a Qiqi~ |
System Name | MightyX |
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Processor | Ryzen 9800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B650I AX |
Cooling | Scythe Fuma 2 |
Memory | 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30 tuned |
Video Card(s) | Palit Gamerock RTX 5080 oc |
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VR HMD | Meta Quest 3 |
Software | case populated with Artic P12's |
Benchmark Scores | 4k120 OLED Gsync bliss |
There's no way it could be that cheap when a new sku in 2025. Looks like maybe AMD is about to release the fastest 8gb card ever at the same price at the 5060.Does not change the fact that this card should be a 30€ card, like the nivida 710 and nvidia 730 which i put many in desktop computers at work.
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It's less his opinion than it is a finding of the exhaustive testing. He ran the benchmarks, compared the results to their respective costs, and the 5060 is at the top of the price to performance leader board.PRO
Are you kidding me @W1zzard ?
- $300—low price point
1660 Super was best bang for the buck(ti speeds for 1660 money) and what TI version? 5060TI were launched on March. Or do you mean maybe coming Super versions?All things considered, $300 for a xx60 card is not too bad. I remember 1660 being the best bang for buck choice, but wiz's database says it was priced $230 precovid so $300 tracks inflation pretty well. But it doesn't look like it has enough power to run 1080p at max (and need to turn off RT for some games), so lets see if the TI version is going to be any better.
Processor | Ryzen 5 5700x |
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Mouse | G502 |
System Name | Mean machine |
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Processor | AMD 6900HS |
Memory | 2x16 GB 4800C40 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 6700S |
Funny thing is, performance / $ is as objective as it gets. If Nvidia is topping the perf / $ chart it's because... Well, duh, they offer the maximum amount of performance for a given pricepoint. Nvidia is for value conscious buyers, amd is for people that just dojt want to buy nvidiaThat's mostly a reflection of the 2025 gpu market more than this card being good.
I don't envy reviewers in 2025 though it's difficult treading the line and trying to show the pros/cons of a product without coming across as being biased for or against a specific brand.
Nvidia is definitely not helping them out lol.
I'm sure W1z put a ton of work into this review and probably knew regardless of how he felt about it there would be backlash for or against but I honestly think reviewers should just say what they feel about a product regardless of what the internet reaction will be and I feel tpu does a pretty good job of that.
The product is great, but i can understand nvidia blocking reviews. Clickbait youtubers would ignore the fact that this card is the best performance per dollar card you can get and instead focus their videos on the inadequacy of 8gb vram for 4k Ultra PT.Considering this card has a decent performance improvement over the 4060, I really don't understand why nvidia went to such lengths to block proper reviews before launch day. It really seemed as if they were trying really hard to scam consumers using mfg to cover a null improvement over the 4060, when the card is actually quite a better product than the 4060, even without mfg.
Honestly, given how mediocre the rest of the blackwell cards have been, blocking reviews would have made more sense in almost any other blackwell card other than this one and the 5090.
They're also forgetting, or deliberately ignoring, the fact that anyone who's interested in the 8GB offerings are not running 4k. Some of them might be 1440p but most will be running 1080p and more modest settings than "Max/Ultra".The product is great, but i can understand nvidia blocking reviews. Clickbait youtubers would ignore the fact that this card is the best performance per dollar card you can get and instead focus their videos on the inadequacy of 8gb vram for 4k Ultra PT.
System Name | Mean machine |
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Processor | AMD 6900HS |
Memory | 2x16 GB 4800C40 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 6700S |
Math is opionated now if you dont like the results of your calculationsIt's all there in the review. Test methodology, game results, aggregates, then weighing performance against cost. This isn't the reviewers opinion, this is test results, prices and math.
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 8 GB Review
The GeForce RTX 5060 8 GB is NVIDIA's newest release. It is built using the same chip as the RTX 5060 Ti, but only comes with an 8 GB VRAM option. In our review we run it through all our tests, including 1440p and 4K with and without ray tracing, and we also recommend optimal settings for...www.techpowerup.com
Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 5600@80W |
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Motherboard | MSI B550 Tomahawk |
Cooling | ZALMAN CNPS9X OPTIMA |
Memory | 2*8GB PATRIOT PVS416G400C9K@3733MT_C16 |
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Power Supply | Seasonic Core GC 500W |
Mouse | Sharkoon SHARK Force Black |
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Software | Win 7 Ultimate 64bit/Win 10 pro 64bit/Manjaro Linux |
System Name | Mean machine |
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Processor | AMD 6900HS |
Memory | 2x16 GB 4800C40 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 6700S |
Do you actually understand that what you are saying implies that games will look worse and worse over time while requiring more vram? That's your argument in a nutshell. Arent there great looking games that work fine on 8gb? So why the hell would games look worse and worse?A good conclusion for RTX 5060 would be "The true cost of a cheap thing isn’t the price—it’s the time wasted before you buy the right one."
The cost of compromise is too big here, enjoy pop in, stutters, lower quality textures without even knowing the game doesn't have to look that bad and medium to low preset in the very near the future.
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Power Supply | Seasonic SSR-650TR |
Mouse | Logitech G700s; Logitech G903 |
Keyboard | Cooler Master QuickFire TK; Kinesis Advantage |
VR HMD | Quest 2 |
Occam's razor: the drivers just weren't ready.The product is great, but i can understand nvidia blocking reviews. Clickbait youtubers would ignore the fact that this card is the best performance per dollar card you can get and instead focus their videos on the inadequacy of 8gb vram for 4k Ultra PT.
System Name | 4k |
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Case | CORSAIR Carbide AIR 240 Micro-ATX |
Audio Device(s) | Asus Xonar STX |
Power Supply | EVGA SuperNOVA 650W |
Software | Microsoft Windows10 Pro x64 |
I agree the price isn't bad, but it should be cheaper for the 3rd iteration of the almost same card.It really isn't. People complaining about prices are simply not paying attention to the market reality.
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Power Supply | Corsair AX 850 Titanium |
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Software | Windows 11 Pro x64 |
What 4k? With 8gb vram buffer u cant even max out 2023 Re4 remake at 1080pI just won an RTX 5060 Msi ventus Plus OC in a contest, and i'm amazed by the visual sharpness of the games ( playing in 4k) owning previously an RTX 3070 and 3080, it seems that Upscaling and picture quality of Blackwell is very noticeable, people are negatively focused on some gimmicky things but ignoring that 5060 Is beating 3060 ti, 3070, 4060, 4060ti both 8 and 16gb hands down, and i am certain that with the driver updates it will get a lot better. the only thing i think Nvidia should have done is give the memory option on 5060 to 12 or 16 Gb in addition to 8 gb but the memory bandwidth is a tremendous 446 Gb/s for an entry level card. I don't know what's the problem with those attention seeking drama queen scumbags on Youtube making all this Fuss. Seeking attention and creating fake controversy to get more attention and have more subscribers and views and thus more sponsors and more Money.
This card was so mis characterized by these Youtube scumbags & Leeches and yet it has a great performance/cost and great end user experience and allows more with DLSS 4 , MFG and other features... it's better than previous gen cards like 60 and 70 with a giant leap in Chip & memory performance but the reviews were killing it before it even was released !!!!! We live in really strange Times
Here is the thing. The reason we are still gaming at 1080p at all is the Graphics Cards company. Just like the reason we are stuck on the low end with 8gb graphics cards.They're also forgetting, or deliberately ignoring, the fact that anyone who's interested in the 8GB offerings are not running 4k. Some of them might be 1440p but most will be running 1080p and more modest settings than "Max/Ultra".
System Name | Mean machine |
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Processor | AMD 6900HS |
Memory | 2x16 GB 4800C40 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 6700S |
It's partly nvidia and amd. It's also partly that visuals have hit diminishing returns. It's also partly that devs release unoptimized POS posing as games. I had a 9800x 3d, the fastest gaming chip, tuned to within an inch of it's life, was still dropping to 40 fps in eg. Jedi Survivor 2. Is that because AMD is "trying to milk it for all it's worth"? No, the software is just BAD.So is the industry really moving that slowly that we are still gaming at 1080p? Or is it moving this slow because Nvidia and AMD are trying to milk it for all it is worth?
Sure software and hardware companies are both a bit guilty. I mean I had an ATi X800 XL GPU. I remember when Bioshock released and the X800 series wasn't able to play Bioshock because they pushed out Shader Model 3. Except the X800 was definitely powerful enough to run the game. They just pushed a tech through that forced people to upgrade. They used to do this more often also with DirectX. Then we got a mod that let you play Bioshock on the older Shader Model 2 GPU's.It's partly nvidia and amd. It's also partly that visuals have hit diminishing returns. It's also partly that devs release unoptimized POS posing as games. I had a 9800x 3d, the fastest gaming chip, tuned to within an inch of it's life, was still dropping to 40 fps in eg. Jedi Survivor 2. Is that because AMD is "trying to milk it for all it's worth"? No, the software is just BAD.
The x60 tier from both Nvidia and AMD have stagnated, and they both have sold the same card 2-3 times with a different name. Nvidia is the one milking it for every last bit, AMD are the ones following the market leader, as stupid as it is thats how competition works when one has a near monopoly. It really is unfortunate that companies are causing such stagnation on 1080P, that reviewers have to list what settings you should use in order for games to be playable, and even more unfortunate to see people being shields for a company which is holding the industry back.So is the industry really moving that slowly that we are still gaming at 1080p? Or is it moving this slow because Nvidia and AMD are trying to milk it for all it is worth?
If that is the case, then Nvidia shouldn't be throwing reviewers under the bus for unstable drivers.Occam's razor: the drivers just weren't ready.
You mean mostly Nvidia and partially AMD, visuals hit a peak years ago, but texture sizes are still increasing, and Nvidia has successfully sold everyone on RT, which also can't run on the 5060 without compromises, also game devs can only optimize so far on an 8GB vram frame buffer. For example compare the 8GB 5060Ti to the 16GB 5060Ti, there are instances where the 8GB card struggles while the 16GB performs significantly better, there is no reason in 2025 for a card to be artificially limited by VRAM at 1080P besides Nvidia pushing planned obsolescence for people on a budget to 1080p low/med. It'll be interesting to see if people have the same reactions to the 9060XT, if the 8GB version has similar performance.It's partly nvidia and amd. It's also partly that visuals have hit diminishing returns. It's also partly that devs release unoptimized POS posing as games. I had a 9800x 3d, the fastest gaming chip, tuned to within an inch of it's life, was still dropping to 40 fps in eg. Jedi Survivor 2. Is that because AMD is "trying to milk it for all it's worth"? No, the software is just BAD.
And some ignoring the point of reviewers using max or ultra for benchmark purposes.They're also forgetting, or deliberately ignoring, the fact that anyone who's interested in the 8GB offerings are not running 4k. Some of them might be 1440p but most will be running 1080p and more modest settings than "Max/Ultra".
System Name | Mean machine |
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Processor | AMD 6900HS |
Memory | 2x16 GB 4800C40 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 6700S |
If you want to put the blame on GPUs for not getting "good enough" performance in games then you have to put most of the blame on amd, since they have the slower cards, the cards with the less value (totally objective, performance / $) and the cards that currently and even more historically have been doing horribly in heavy games (RT / PT). But, im not blaming either of them, games have become notoriously heavy for not a lot of gains in visuals.You mean mostly Nvidia and partially AMD, visuals hit a peak years ago, but texture sizes are still increasing, and Nvidia has successfully sold everyone on RT, which also can't run on the 5060 without compromises, also game devs can only optimize so far on an 8GB vram frame buffer. For example compare the 8GB 5060Ti to the 16GB 5060Ti, there are instances where the 8GB card struggles while the 16GB performs significantly better, there is no reason in 2025 for a card to be artificially limited by VRAM at 1080P besides Nvidia pushing planned obsolescence for people on a budget to 1080p low/med. It'll be interesting to see if people have the same reactions to the 9060XT, if the 8GB version has similar performance.
I think that GPU companies have moved away from brute power to relying on Software. I mean the fact you can run an RT only title on Linux on Vega released in 2017 which is 8 years ago. Vega released a year before Nvidia even announced their RTX cards that supported RT.You mean mostly Nvidia and partially AMD, visuals hit a peak years ago, but texture sizes are still increasing, and Nvidia has successfully sold everyone on RT, which also can't run on the 5060 without compromises, also game devs can only optimize so far on an 8GB vram frame buffer. For example compare the 8GB 5060Ti to the 16GB 5060Ti, there are instances where the 8GB card struggles while the 16GB performs significantly better, there is no reason in 2025 for a card to be artificially limited by VRAM at 1080P besides Nvidia pushing planned obsolescence for people on a budget to 1080p low/med. It'll be interesting to see if people have the same reactions to the 9060XT, if the 8GB version has similar performance.
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Processor | AMD 6900HS |
Memory | 2x16 GB 4800C40 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 6700S |
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Video Card(s) | Evga FTW 3 Ultra 3080ti/ Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 |
Storage | lots of SSD. |
Display(s) | A whole bunch OLED, VA, IPS..... |
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Keyboard | Logitech - G915 LIGHTSPEED / Logitech G Pro |
If you want to put the blame on GPUs for not getting "good enough" performance in games then you have to put most of the blame on amd, since they have the slower cards, the cards with the less value (totally objective, performance / $) and the cards that currently and even more historically have been doing horribly in heavy games (RT / PT). But, im not blaming either of them, games have become notoriously heavy for not a lot of gains in visuals.
If you are saying that 8gb vram is "planned obsolescence" why the heck are you just mentioning nvidia? AMD also offers 8gb vram cards. In fact, nvidia offers the CHEAPEST gpus that have more than 8gb of vram. Amd does not. So - AMD is the prime culprit of the tactic called planned obsolescene - if that's your argument.