6800xt va 4070 12gb

[RaceT3ch]

One last thing, OP, what games are you playing? If it's Cyberpunk, I'd be saying 4070 right now.

 

[freeagent]

Overclocking has no effect on lifespan if you are just using software to tweak it. I have a few old cards that were never run at stock settings, like my newer cards.. no stock, no problem.

 

[RaceT3ch]

Overclocking has no effect on lifespan if you are just using software to tweak it. I have a few old cards that were never run at stock settings, like my newer cards.. no stock, no problem.

It was voltage that causes a shorter lifespan doesn't it

 

[Raffles]

While electricity in Italy is inexpensive I'd still abstain from these Navi 21 GPUs because they feast on them watts like crazy. It'd also mean more serious investments in a power supply unit.

4070, however, feels overpriced at €450.

Mmmh, 7900 GRE was something what I was concidering last year, but ended up with this 3080 as I got a good deal. I don't care about RT so a Radeon works fine for me as well.


Paid the same amount for my 3080 13 months ago and felt like that I got a good deal after all. Did come with a FC waterblock too so it gives even more better value.

That's around what I paid for a 4070 semi recently in '24, and honestly I'm really happy with it.

Of course ideally it should be cheaper, but given current GPU pricing, it seemed like good bang for buck to me. It's basically a 3080 with less memory bandwidth, but FG in case I ever need it. So in the current climate, a fair price I feel.

I also had a 4070S, and I came away more impressed with the 4070. The performance was close between the 2, close to 10%, yet the 4070S was 33% more expensive. And the 4070 has the classic 8pin connector.

I undervolted the 4070 and overclocked the VRAM by+1200. Better than stock performance, and never exceeds 145w. Underrated card imo.

 

[freeagent]

It was voltage that causes a shorter lifespan doesn't it

Stock voltage?

These days you set your power target to +10% or whatever you get, and set your boost and memclock to that.

Not sure about how AMD does things.

 

[RaceT3ch]

Stock voltage?

These days you set your power target to +10% or whatever you get, and set your boost and memclock to that.

Not sure about how AMD does things.

You have to increase min and max to more than you desire so it actually reaches those speeds.
It's very weird.
Also, I was asking if a higher voltage causes a shorter lifespan.

 

[freeagent]

You have to increase min and max to more than you desire so it actually reaches those speeds.
It's very weird.
Also, I was asking if a higher voltage causes a shorter lifespan.

Ahh, gotcha.

If you stay within the stock voltage range you are safe. After that I would say it would depend on your cooling and environment.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Unless you're getting the 6800xt for substantially less money, 4070 all day every day.

Almost equal raster performance, substantially better RT performance, access to better upscaling tech, and much newer card.

12vs16gb won't matter at 1080 or most situations at 1440p, and when 4070 does run out of VRAM for RT it's not like the 6800xt is going to be running RT buttery smooth or anything.

 

[NSR]

450€ 4070 12gb
320€ 6800xt nitro

If you're paying this much for a used 4070, then buy a brand new 5060 Ti 16GB. Solves both the VRAM and RT/DLSS question, handles 1080/2K perfectly fine. Otherwise, wait for the 9060 XT 16GB.

6800/4070 are respectable cards but right now the brand new Ti/XT 60 class cards are at their level of performance.

 

[RaceT3ch]

Unless you're getting the 6800xt for substantially less money, 4070 all day every day.

Almost equal raster performance, substantially better RT performance, access to better upscaling tech, and much newer card.

12vs16gb won't matter at 1080 or most situations at 1440p, and when 4070 does run out of VRAM for RT it's not like the 6800xt is going to be running RT buttery smooth or anything.

Is 130 euro's a large enough difference in your opinion?

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Is 130 euro's a large enough difference in your opinion?

-Thats enough of a price difference to make things tricky.

-Are you tight on money?
-Do you have a large catalogue of unplayed games?

If so, I'd actually start biasing toward the 6800xt. For the same price 4070, but for 33% more I'd stick with the 6800xt (going with the 450/320 prices quoted above).

IF OP has time, would be worth waiting a few days and seeing how the 9060xt performs.

If it's close enough to the 6800xt in raster and faster in RT, and actually available around 350 euro it would be the better pick imo.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Is 130 euro's a large enough difference in your opinion?

In these weird economic times? Yeah, 130eur can make or break someone right now. While there is light at the end of the tunnel, we've got some time before we fully recover from this post-pandemic economic crap-show.

 

[dark_globe]

If you're paying this much for a used 4070, then buy a brand new 5060 Ti 16GB. Solves both the VRAM and RT/DLSS question, handles 1080/2K perfectly fine. Otherwise, wait for the 9060 XT 16GB.

6800/4070 are respectable cards but right now the brand new Ti/XT 60 class cards are at their level of performance.

rtx 4070 is more powerful compared to 5060Ti - the difference is more than 10% at both 1080p and 1440p
when it comes to 9060XT it remains to be seen , we have to wait a couple more days
i would wait before buying , perhaps you can find rtx 4070 for a better price also .

old radeons even if they have more VRAM are not too good , old FSR is much inferior to newer class 4xxx technologies .

 

[NSR]

rtx 4070 is more powerful compared to 5060Ti - the difference is more than 10% at both 1080p and 1440p

I should clarify, when I say "the same" I view it as:

If 4070 gets 60fps, the 5060 Ti gets 50. Both need some DLSS here.

If the 4070 gets 100fps, the 5060 Ti gets 80-90.

The experience is practically the same.

1440p Comparison:

I'd just personally go for the newer gen with additional VRAM as long as the price is close.

 

[JustBenching]

I should clarify, when I say "the same" I view it as:

If 4070 gets 60fps, the 5060 Ti gets 50. Both need some DLSS here.

If the 4070 gets 100fps, the 5060 Ti gets 80-90.

The experience is practically the same.

1440p Comparison:

I'd just personally go for the newer gen with additional VRAM as long as the price is close.

TG and all similar channels are - obviously I might add - fake. Please don't spread those around.

 

[Krit]

Right now new RX 7800 XT costs the same as RTX 5060 Ti 16GB nvidia are asking too much for such a cheap low end gpu. RTX 4070 is 33% more expensive than RX 7800 XT. RTX 5070 is a way better deal than a RTX 5060 Ti 16GB it's just too weak for it's price bad p/p ratio.

RTX 5070 is 40% faster than RTX 5060 Ti 16GB but costs only 24.7% more they are not even than close.

 

[NSR]

TG and all similar channels are - obviously I might add - fake. Please don't spread those around.

In any case the numbers line up with the expected 10-15% difference. Daniel got similar results here:

 

[dark_globe]

i agree if one is pondering about buying 16gb rtx 5060ti for almost $500
than the 35-40% faster rtx 5070 for $600-620 is a much better deal .

 

[NSR]

Right now new RX 7800 XT costs the same as RTX 5060 Ti 16GB nvidia are asking too much for such a cheap low end gpu. RTX 4070 is 33% more expensive than RX 7800 XT. RTX 5070 is a way better deal than a RTX 5060 Ti 16GB it's just too weak for it's price bad p/p ratio.

RTX 5070 is 40% faster than RTX 5060 Ti 16GB but costs only 24.7% more they are not even close.

i agree if one is pondering about buying 16gb rtx 5060ti for almost $500
than the 35-40% faster rtx 5070 for $600-620 is a much better deal .

I recommend the 5060 Ti 16GB since part of the discussion has been about the 16GB on the 6800XT. Plus I'm not sure how far he will spend beyond 450 euros to reach the 5070.

In any case buying a used 4070 so close to the price of other new gen cards doesn't sound great.

 

[Rover4444]

I recommend the 5060 Ti 16GB since part of the discussion has been about the 16GB on the 6800XT. Plus I'm not sure how far he will spend beyond 450 euros to reach the 5070.

In any case buying a used 4070 so close to the price of other new gen cards doesn't sound great.

With the 5060 Ti you're paying more for less performance versus the 6800 XT. It's not a rational purchase.

 

[Macro Device]

With the 5060 Ti you're paying more for

• Upscaling so much better you could head-to-head them via DLSS P VS FSR Q.
• RT tons better.
• Double the speed per watt.
• Higher performance in professional tasks.

It is rational if these matter to you.

 

[NSR]

• Upscaling so much better you could head-to-head them via DLSS P VS FSR Q.
• RT tons better.
• Double the speed per watt.
• Higher performance in professional tasks.

It is rational if these matter to you.

@Rover4444 Basically this.

I would also personally buy the 6800 XT in this situation if I have little interest in anything outside of just pure raster gaming performance. But I also wouldn't spend so much more for a used 4070 even for RT and DLSS. At that point buying new gen makes more sense (imo).

 

[Rover4444]

• Upscaling so much better you could head-to-head them via DLSS P VS FSR Q.
• RT tons better.
• Double the speed per watt.
• Higher performance in professional tasks.

It is rational if these matter to you.

Not for an extra $130. That's like 40% more than what you would've paid for the 6800 XT, and if the 4070 is available for the same price as the 5060 Ti you should just get that. Different people have different needs though.