NVIDIA's Arm-Based Gaming SoC to Debut in Alienware Laptops

[dgianstefani]

Since I dont have a Ngreedia gpu I have to...

...talk about how bad they are continually, hardware you don't own? You and others, this is a general message.

Then accuse anyone else with a different perspective (really, any perspective, considering yours isn't actually one, but is second hand info from an ai or a Google search) of bias (from the user with AMD as their profile picture). Then voila, you have "moral high ground" and can lecture us all without anything substantial backing it, a convenient position most of us tried to move past in high school.

Tedious, boring, ironic. Intellectually vacant echo chambers. There's other ways to form a personality.

 

[JustBenching]

Why settle for 90% of GPU marketshare when they can have 90% of CPU marketshare in gaming machines too?

If Nvidia decides to take the cpu market seriously, everyone else should already start packing. Its game over.

 

[Geofrancis]

how long before nvidia stops allowing manufacturers to use intel or AMD cpus with nvidia laptop GPUs?

or being banned from using the gaming brand on them?

 

[Rightness_1]

When will they learn that the only reason for ARM on desktop was the promise of it being cheap, low-power and more performant than AMD/Intel. This will not be cheap, will not outperform AMD/Intel, and will not be upgradable, so what is the point of it, especially when you factor in the ridiculous amounts of software incompatibility as well as the terrible state of all ARM OS's?

Fools and their money...

 

[wNotyarD]

When will they learn that the only reason for ARM on desktop was the promise of it being cheap, and better than AMD/Intel. This will not be cheap, will not outperform AMD/Intel, and will not be upgradable, so what is the point of it, especially when you factor in the ridiculous amounts of software incompatibility as well as the terrible state of all ARM OS's?

Was it ever, though? The goal was always Apple Silicon-like battery life and thin devices, and SD delivered in spades. And thin devices with great battery life are very marketable, far from everyone needs a full-on gaming experience from their laptops. When NVIDIA gets involved with Alienware, though, people WILL look at it for gaming.
Yes, there's still software incompatibility to take into consideration. That's on MS to solve with Prism until WoA gets traction and devs start building their software natively for ARM. Legacy software? Bad luck, but why would you get experimental hardware for legacy usage anyway?

 

[Rightness_1]

If Nvidia decides to take the cpu market seriously, everyone else should already start packing. Its game over.

Nobody wants ARM on the desktop other than people who have no idea what they are talking about.

I'd like someone with the last Snapdragon laptop to tell me how it's going, and how much cheaper than every other non ARM laptop it was, how much more performant it was compared to the same price AMD/Intel laptop, and how much it doesn't crash on it's own drivers and OS, and how it cannot run half the software out there.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

...talk about how bad they are continually, hardware you don't own? You and others, this is a general message.

Then accuse anyone else with a different perspective (really, any perspective, considering yours isn't actually one, but is second hand info from an ai or a Google search) of bias (from the user with AMD as their profile picture). Then voila, you have "moral high ground" and can lecture us all without anything substantial backing it, a convenient position most of us tried to move past in high school.

Tedious, boring, ironic. Intellectually vacant echo chambers. There's other ways to form a personality.

All that is very rich coming from someone that has an clearly defined image of this subject, meanwhile is sporting a badge of "Staff".

I wont bore you with details as to why I reached the point that I am but maybe you can use some light reading about it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDGPU/comments/oh7dz6/sabotaging_amd_gpus_nvidias_20_year_history_of

@igormp its all very entertaining and educational, with the obvious misdirection and false claims, so I will personally leave it here, because we are definitely off topic and honestly, going nowhere with the words salad thrown around meanwhile ignoring the clear points.

 

[dgianstefani]

I wont bore you with details as to why I reached the point that I am but maybe you can use some light reading about it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDGPU/comments/oh7dz6/sabotaging_amd_gpus_nvidias_20_year_history_of

Cute. More second hand info.

It's OK, I'm bored anyway.

Have a good day though, let's agree to disagree.

 

[JustBenching]

Nobody wants ARM on the desktop other than people who have no idea what they are talking about.

I'd like someone with the last Snapdragon laptop to tell me how it's going, and how much cheaper than every other non ARM laptop it was, how much more performant it was compared to the same price AMD/Intel laptop, and how much it doesn't crash on it's own drivers and OS, and how it cannot run half the software out there.

Nvidia isn't Qualcomm though

All that is very rich coming from someone that has an clearly defined image of this subject, meanwhile is sporting a badge of "Staff".

I wont bore you with details as to why I reached the point that I am but maybe you can use some light reading about it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDGPU/comments/oh7dz6/sabotaging_amd_gpus_nvidias_20_year_history_of

@igormp its all very entertaining and educational, with the obvious misdirection and false claims, so I will personally leave it here, because we are definitely off topic and honestly, going nowhere with the words salad thrown around meanwhile ignoring the clear points.

ATI (and subsequently amd) has been cheating since 2004 in Quake and UT. Please lets stop this one sided vitriol, they are both garbage.

 

[igormp]

Nobody wants ARM on the desktop other than people who have no idea what they are talking about.

I'd like someone with the last Snapdragon laptop to tell me how it's going, and how much cheaper than every other non ARM laptop it was, how much more performant it was compared to the same price AMD/Intel laptop, and how much it doesn't crash on it's own drivers and OS, and how it cannot run half the software out there.

Well, I'd love me an Nvidia Spark or even their GB300 workstation.
Lots of people interested in those products, fwiw.

Buf yeah, not for your average Joe that runs Windows (at the moment).

its all very entertaining and educational, with the obvious misdirection and false claims, so I will personally leave it here, because we are definitely off topic and honestly, going nowhere with the words salad thrown around meanwhile ignoring the clear points.

Eh, good enough for me. Just don't claim that the Linux driver is solely proprietary anymore, specially given how Blackwell only works with the open source one, and we're good.
I just don't like misinformation being spread around, the rest of the stuff is pretty much our own opinions on the topic.

 

[Hecate91]

Nvidia isn't Qualcomm though

A favorite brand isn't the issue, the problem is backwards compatibility and x86 software compatibility. Only the diehard fans are gonna spend $2000+ on a alienware laptop which only runs Nvidia sponsored titles.

...talk about how bad they are continually, hardware you don't own? You and others, this is a general message.

The same goes for those who have never used an AMD card, yet constantly bash on everyone who ever used one.
It's all tedious and boring, as well as sad to see name calling come from someone with the staff badge.

 

[JustBenching]

A favorite brand isn't the issue, the problem is backwards compatibility and x86 software compatibility. Only the diehard fans are gonna spend $2000+ on a alienware laptop which only runs Nvidia sponsored titles.

It's hard not to be a fan of such a consumer friendly company like nvidia, we got to give them that.

Even though they have the whole AI market to themselves, they still prioritize gamers being the first company to release GPUs for all brackets. That's commendable

 

[Hecate91]

It's hard not to be a fan of such a consumer friendly company like nvidia, we got to give them that.

Even though they have the whole AI market to themselves, they still prioritize gamers being the first company to release GPUs for all brackets. That's commendable

Ah yes, so consumer friendly they're reducing supply of consumer gpu's.

NVIDIA Rumored To Cut GeForce RTX 50 Series Production In Order To Increase Production Of AI GPUs Such As GB300

As per Board Channels, NVIDIA is rumored to reduce the production of GeForce RTX 50 series GPUs in favor of AI GPUs in China.

wccftech.com

 

[igormp]

A favorite brand isn't the issue, the problem is backwards compatibility and x86 software compatibility.

That's only a matter of good enough emulation/compatibility frameworks.
Apple did fine with their x86 -> ARM transition, Linux does fine with their Windows translation layer (notice that I said fine, not great). As long as it is good enough for 80% of the users, that's good. Specially given how most people play either the latest games or one of the popular e-sports titles.

Only the diehard fans are gonna spend $2000+ on a alienware laptop which only runs Nvidia sponsored titles.

Well, that's a bold assumption of yours.

they still prioritize gamers being the first company to release GPUs for all brackets.

I don't think prioritize is the right word here, nor that those GPUs are primarily meant for the geforce market either.

Ah yes, so consumer friendly they're reducing supply of consumer gpu's.

The other consumers that are paying more are happy.
You could say that they are not "gamer-friendly".

 

[JustBenching]

Ah yes, so consumer friendly they're reducing supply of consumer gpu's.

NVIDIA Rumored To Cut GeForce RTX 50 Series Production In Order To Increase Production Of AI GPUs Such As GB300

As per Board Channels, NVIDIA is rumored to reduce the production of GeForce RTX 50 series GPUs in favor of AI GPUs in China.

wccftech.com

There is oversupply already, evident by newly released cards being at MSRP all across Europe within a week of their release. Let's see how amd's gpus fare next week

That's only a matter of good enough emulation/compatibility frameworks.
Apple did fine with their x86 -> ARM transition, Linux does fine with their Windows translation layer (notice that I said fine, not great). As long as it is good enough for 80% of the users, that's good. Specially given how most people play either the latest games or one of the popular e-sports titles.

Well, that's a bold assumption of yours.


I don't think prioritize is the right word here, nor that those GPUs are primarily meant for the geforce market either.

The other consumers that are paying more are happy.
You could say that they are not "gamer-friendly".

Im a gamer and I think nvidia is extremely gamer friendly. Allowed me to enjoy - in 2022 (4090) - performance that will only be available by its competitors in 2028 at the earliest. If you really think about it, that's is absolutely insane and a small price to pay for such a feat.

 

[Visible Noise]

Ah yes, so consumer friendly they're reducing supply of consumer gpu's.

NVIDIA Rumored To Cut GeForce RTX 50 Series Production In Order To Increase Production Of AI GPUs Such As GB300

As per Board Channels, NVIDIA is rumored to reduce the production of GeForce RTX 50 series GPUs in favor of AI GPUs in China.

wccftech.com

WCCF. Commendable source you have there, because Pakistan is the center of the tech industry as we all know.