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Modified drivers for X-Fi sound cards.

Isn't it possible to rename the main driverfile, so it will not be flagged anymore and kernel isolation can be used again?

The driver must then be signed again to be able to install it normally.

Since the driver for the Audigy RX is usable with kernel isolation, maybe just renaming the driver to the same name will work ok
 

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Nice..
I will try this driver out.
Would be nice to get this great card working again.

Still rate it above the AE5 witch i also have.
Nothing works as good as CMSS-3D for upmixing stereo to 5.1


Your driver seems to work, but Windows keeps complaining about ctaud2k.sys is not compatible with Core Isolation.

That's what the problem wirh all drivers is
 
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Your driver seems to work, but Windows keeps complaining about ctaud2k.sys is not compatible with Core Isolation.
Core isolation will never work on x-fi because it requires security protocols to be written into the main driver. According to statistics, few people need this function that slows down the PC, so I don’t see any problem here.
 
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Core isolation will never work on x-fi because it requires security protocols to be written into the main driver. According to statistics, few people need this function that slows down the PC, so I don’t see any problem here.
If I have the Titanium X-Fi (PCIe | CA20K2) which driver should I use
is 2.40 works properly or still BSOD?
Why do we need the Ctxfihelp.exe file?
 

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well i installed Driver port from X-Fi Titanium HD for Titanium series cards (not HD) sound is fine, but after installing 6.0.300.2022 driver windows boot time increased at least twice, i also had older Driver port as well + original driver package , all working fine without slow boot, only new driver port has some slow boot problem, sound card is titanium fatality pro, windows 11 26200 build, but 26100 build also same problem
 
well i installed Driver port from X-Fi Titanium HD for Titanium series cards (not HD) sound is fine, but after installing 6.0.300.2022 driver windows boot time increased at least twice, i also had older Driver port as well + original driver package , all working fine without slow boot, only new driver port has some slow boot problem, sound card is titanium fatality pro, windows 11 26200 build, but 26100 build also same problem
so 2.17 is the best to use the ? original or 2.40 just causing bsod with spdif if doing anything with it or just using it or even when it installing . or if windows update update it , it would randomly. also I noticed Daniel version causing crackling. not sure if it was my spdif cable that I moved a bit but too many things. 2.17 works fine without crackling and save the settings
do not use the creative console it's bugged.
 
Ctxfihelp.exe needed to save settings properly, i don't have any problem using all the software included in software pack, including control launcher, saving working fine, but i don't use SPDIF cable, just 5.1 analog speakers + CMSS-3D stereo surround, well Driver port from titanium i think has better bass vs original driver, soundwise i don't see much difference, i mostly use soundcard for youtube videos + MPC-HC tvshows+films, less for music and gaming
i run bootracer and i have around 6 second boot penalty with latest hd titanium port driver pack
 
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Ctxfihelp.exe needed to save settings properly, i don't have any problem using all the software included in software pack, including control launcher, saving working fine, but i don't use SPDIF cable, just 5.1 analog speakers + CMSS-3D stereo surround, well Driver port from titanium i think has better bass vs original driver, soundwise i don't see much difference, i mostly use soundcard for youtube videos + MPC-HC tvshows+films, less for music and gaming
i run bootracer and i have around 6 second boot penalty with latest hd titanium port driver pack
I don't notice any slowdown when loading my PC.
 
probably because it didn't installed correctly, i had bsod during first try before, second try went fine, after that it is always like that, older builds working fine, without slowdown, sound also working fine, only slow boot, BSOD was during updating system files message in the end of installation, well i uninstalled older build, then used driver fusion, then installed new build, of course disabled secure boot and used those two commands before installing:
bcdedit.exe -set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS
bcdedit.exe -set TESTSIGNING ON
 
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Ctxfihelp.exe needed to save settings properly, i don't have any problem using all the software included in software pack, including control launcher, saving working fine, but i don't use SPDIF cable, just 5.1 analog speakers + CMSS-3D stereo surround, well Driver port from titanium i think has better bass vs original driver, soundwise i don't see much difference, i mostly use soundcard for youtube videos + MPC-HC tvshows+films, less for music and gaming
i run bootracer and i have around 6 second boot penalty with latest hd titanium port driver pack
probably because it didn't installed correctly, i had bsod during first try before, second try went fine, after that it is always like that, older builds working fine, without slowdown, sound also working fine, only slow boot, BSOD was during updating system files message in the end of installation, well i uninstalled older build, then used driver fusion, then installed new build, of course disabled secure boot and used those two commands before installing:
bcdedit.exe -set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS
bcdedit.exe -set TESTSIGNING ON
I am using the Daniel 8 version and it's other way around, ctxfihelp.exe actually revert back the settings to 2.1 even with the patchctxfihelp.exe I also removed the updreg.exe from startup, it saved the settings when sign off so works, usually signing off wouldn't save also.
Secureboot disabled for me and I don't need to use any bcdedit command, it just installs

The 2.17 modded version causing me weird freeze with DPC_WATCHDOG, now I think it's because we can't change this setting , and I need to use 48Khz else weird things happen. this is with daneil 8 and the modded whatyouhear let you change that, else it stuck on 96Khz. how can we change that with the modded 2.17C8 for titanium?


Hmm even with this I have crackling .... I don't know what to do. when I use SPDIF Out it works fine no crackling, but when I use the Speaker Creative SXFI , if I open once a movie or somehing it's fine, but if I open it second time it crackle, why

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well i also had DPC watchdog violation with latest hd titanium port driver, but with latest build that Antes533 sent me to test everything working as it should, no more bsod during install + boot time also fine, as well as sound, need more testing for sound quality, but it should be good, i don't have saving problem, but i use windows 11 custom 26200 iot enterprise ltsc dev build that i made with ntlite myself, i don't use any defender-security setting or edge-edgeview staff, also i have fastboot and hybernation off, no problems with saving control launcher settings, no software crashes either, event viewer is clean, everything working fine in control launcher, i don't have any serious bugs, but i use 5.1 analog speakers only game mode 5.1 https://www.geniusnet.com/en/products/view/sw_hf5_1_4500_ii those are second new revision, i have old first revision, but specifications are almost same, stereo surround working fine in browser + mpc-hc including ac3 2.0 stereo, hd titanium port has better bass, i tested https://www.mediafire.com/file/z8a0...17_0008%D0%A1_%28Support_Win10%2B%29.rar/file also before, but it is mainly for older games openal+EAX to work, i don't see any better sound quality or bass in those older drivers, but sound are little bit different i think, with higher end sound systems you might see more differences in sound quality, i prefer hd titanium port driver, it gives good sound quality + better bass overall
 
Updated HD port for X-fi Ti. Fixed bugs, made significant changes to improve sound quality.
do we still need to put 7.1 on windows speakers and then put headphones?
because I lose many sounds when I do that
just by using headphones it works fine, windows say stereo
as the creative control console shows all 7.1 speakers it means the drivers already set 7.1 even when windows is set to Stereo it doesn't matter



The bsod could be because the ESET HIPS, I disabled it for now, maybe it blocking the driver causing it to stop working
 
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This is because you removed ctxfihlp from startup. The creative control panel and the windows audio panel should work synchronously
I added it back, as soon as I changed to 7.1 and back to headphones I lost the sound in game and the whole computer freeze.
 
What driver is this on?
the one from vogos
yours I have bsod with the experimental hdport it freeze bsod on driver install section stuck on 68% mouse move but everything freeze and bsod
I have titanium

none of your driver's work for titanium
using the bcdedit commands

it's fresh windows 11 install just to test so nothing there at all
I can't even boot now it would freeze straight away
 
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Yes, you are right...there is a problem with desynchronization.
I will correct it. Thanks for the feedback.
Version 2.40.0019 is the official driver....if you have BSOD on it too, then it is already a card malfunction.
 
Yes, you are right...there is a problem with desynchronization.
I will correct it. Thanks for the feedback.
Version 2.40.0019 is the official driver....if you have BSOD on it too, then it is already a card malfunction.
is there a download or something new to test?
did you make new driver?

the card works fine though if I don't touch the speakers with vogos driver.
with Daniel driver I have crackling
with yours there is bsod

each drivers has different symptom so it can't be hardware at the moment

I played more than 15 hrs straight everything works fine

how do I clean uninstall the drivers if I I don't have uninstall option now and there are still the creative apps , I only uninstalled the driver from device manager and driverstor app

What is the hardware ID of your card?


I also installed win 11\PRO 24H2 and the script works fine.
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PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_000B&SUBSYS_00441102&REV_03
PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_000B&SUBSYS_00441102
PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_000B&CC_040300
PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_000B&CC_0403

PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_000B&REV_03
PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_000B
PCI\VEN_1102&CC_040300
PCI\VEN_1102&CC_0403
PCI\VEN_1102

Official drivers

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the official works perfectly fine


the only problem is settings doesn't save. if the settings save I'll just use it. I tried your ctxfihlp.exe but it doesn't help

the quality goes back to 16bit 48khz
the speakers goes to stereo and not 7.1
control says headphones still

if the creative console is missing on the official drivers, I just install it from one of the drivers? how can I get it

if I touch the 7.1 I would always freeze !
when I just use headphones it works fine
 
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Maybe you have a problem with the card itself, because everything is saved fine for me. Maybe you should ask on Reddit if anyone else has problems with the official driver on a regular Titanium.

I found the BSOD problem and fixed the desynchronization problem....tomorrow I'll update the HD port and version 2.17.0008
 
Maybe you have a problem with the card itself, because everything is saved fine for me. Maybe you should ask on Reddit if anyone else has problems with the official driver on a regular Titanium.

I found the BSOD problem and fixed the desynchronization problem....tomorrow I'll update the HD port and version 2.17.0008
I noticed just now the card does bleep and disappear from the computer ! and that's why it freeze. that what happens with this cards ??
or it's something else ?
I tried to put it on other slot. it would freeze so random. sometimes it works 15 hr and sometimes it just outright freeze

in the fresh windows it works fine. maybe it's something else causing the freeze . pff

So your driver as you tested does crash no matter what
The driver BSOD only when I used 4K movies and 1 game , 1080p worked just fine, that's the weird thing, , I guess something is corrupted there because I played the game and it crashed in the middle,
now every game and every movie works fines
Also Madvr settings were reset and potplayer, so everything was related and happened only in 4K movies, something with Nvidia APP updated something and I had freezes because ColorControl Dithering which causes MadVR to crash and corrupted.

what a mess, all started because Nvidia APP changed something with RTX HDR that changed the HDR and it crashed 4K HDR movies when I used Madvr and potplayer, the soundcard was just side affect
Because it worked fine without madvr on a fresh os with official/daniel (but it crackle) / and Vogos mods , no single BSOD expect with your driver which freeze and BSOD when it installs the driver 68%.

The card is fine, I even tested it on another PCIE slot, I have Nvme to PCIE 4x adapter which the sound card connected because 4090 is big taking 2 pcie slots and the 3 is too close. so on both slots it was freezing.
What I mean by freeze is I was inside a game Warhammer 4000 darktide was playing for like 8 hr straight and as soon I updated the Nvidia APP the game just freeze and crash, and the 4K movies were the same, until I changed the Dithering from 8bit temporal to disable it fixed the issue but Madvr would keep randomly crash because it was corrupted , as on a fresh OS it was working perfectly fine no matter what driver it didn't freeze once, I didn't use Madvr there, only Lavfilters and potplayer and creative sound and nvidia 560 something drivers without nvidia app

so overall it was all because NVidia APP which causes everything to keep crashing and Madvr was after that kept crashing. I just reinstall it

I think your driver also crashing because it tries to use 88.8 Khz and this freeze my computer, when it was loading I saw 88.8Khz on my DAC/AMP , just remove them, you are the only one who added them no one uses that. also for me I just need 48Khz I am not sure even for 96Khz but both works
 
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ok waiting to test hd titanium port driver Version 2.40.0019 working fine, no bsod, no slow boots
 
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Updated HD port for X-Fi Ti. Fixed BSOD in some cases during installation. Fixed desynchronization of sound output card and Windows audio panel. Fixed lost 7.1 mode.

the only problem is settings doesn't save. if the settings save I'll just use it.
If your settings are not saved, then use the old reliable method....go into sleep mode and exit it, the settings will be saved. It is quite possible that you have an unsuccessful revision of the card. Audigy RX users have a similar problem, some save their settings, while others don’t, and no one can figure out what the problem is.
 
tested and now everything seems fine, no more bsod during installation, before installing disabled secure boot, cleaned previous driver leftovers with driver fusion, then disabled digital signature and installed, boot also fine, no more slowdowns, i will test sound and report later, but i thing sound is working fine, if i find some bugs will report back
 
Updated HD port for X-Fi Ti. Fixed BSOD in some cases during installation. Fixed desynchronization of sound output card and Windows audio panel. Fixed lost 7.1 mode.


If your settings are not saved, then use the old reliable method....go into sleep mode and exit it, the settings will be saved. It is quite possible that you have an unsuccessful revision of the card. Audigy RX users have a similar problem, some save their settings, while others don’t, and no one can figure out what the problem is.
testing

K now it installed without crashing finally

If I put 7.1 in windows speaker settings it doesn't change in control panel and control launcher, it stays headphones and the chopper test sounds good. why do we need to put 7.1 on windows speakers if headphones has the VSS already?

it seems the dude explains it here, the synchronize needs to be off , but I never see that option, on the official driver it's off, on the vogos modded and daniel I think it's on.
with yours it's off so ++
One says one thing and other says other.... Which one?


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In a proper DirectSound3D or OpenAL implementation, it won't even look at the Windows speaker setting. It'll just tell the sound card driver where the sounds are positioned in virtual 3D space, and the sound driver plays them back through whichever speakers they see best fit-or, in the case of CMSS-3D Headphone, applies the HRTF binaural filter accordingly before outputting to stereo headphones. In the best of cases, you should be able to point out the exact angle from your position and a given sound source, even if it's above or below.
For newer games that have downgraded to software-based APIs like XAudio2 that pre-mix everything to surround speaker positions based on the Windows setting, CMSS-3D Headphone emulates a 5.1 or 7.1 speaker field because that's all the positional information it gets. This is why you want asynchronous speaker/headphone configurations. You don't have to worry about missing sounds not played through the front channels because even with CMSS-3D Headphone off, the rear and side left/right are audible and positioned the same as front left/right (that is, directly off to the side, as usual for headphones). In other words, the X-Fi drivers downmix everything automatically.
I believe that 5.1 was selected in the guide that introduced me to that configuration simply because the person who wrote it also had a 5.1 speaker configuration, not 7.1, and to switch between headphones and speakers, he only wanted to adjust the X-Fi control panel. If you only have headphones, just leave it at 7.1.

Note that there are a few people who advise radically different configurations, usually taking CMSS-3D Headphone out of the equation entirely. This could be because their personal HRTFs fall too far outside of the generic HRTF used, or they just don't like any perceived sound quality deficits.
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Correction, CMSS-3D does not need to be fed with multi channel source, it works fine with stereo input. The complex algorithm decides to place each sound in the right position. it can "detect" where each sound should be positioned from the stereo signal.


What they mean is to use 5.1 or 7.1 IN THE GAME, not in windows speaker settings! that's all the confusing
According to Creative, the correct method to use it is:

1)Plug headphones into sound card
2)Set Creative Console to Headphones
3)Turn on CMSS-3D and set both settings to "ON"
4)Turn on game
5)Set in-game settings to 5.1/7.1
6)Play game



and someone says because it needs support for old games but I am not sure

Found the info about CMSS-3D and thought i'd post it here. Keep in mind that it's for a 2.1 speaker set up.

How to set up your sound system:

1- In Windows control panel (XP, Vista and 7) set your speakers to 5.1 or 7.1. Some older games use that info to set the sound while others simply bypass it for their own audio settings.

2- In the Creative Control Panel go with Game Mode which will enable CMSS 3D options. from there you have 2 options:
a- Set the speakers to Headphone and enable EAX and CMSS-3D. In CMSS-3D you should have "ON" for Macro FX and ElevationFilter by clicking on "X-Fi CMSS-3D Virtual". This option offers the best positionnal surround sound (horizontal and vertical) at the expense of lesser audio quality.
b- Set the speakers to 2.0/2.1 and follow the same instructions as the above "a" option. This still give you positionnal surround sound but onlu horizontally (no vertical positionning) but let you enjoy a better audio quality.

That's what I gathered on the web. Lots of sites report the same settings.

Hope it helps some of you guys.




I think this is right, because before I did not uncheck "synchronize with Windows Control Panel", and it set it to "Headphones", and did not set game or windows to anything other than what's automatically set ("headphones").

As you described, it sounded weird, muffled, and dull, and did not have surround.

However, today I decided to uncheck synchronize with windows control panel, and set the "Speakers" to Headphones in Creative Audio Console, and kept the Windows one set to 5.1 speakers.

Then, I fired up CS:S and it indeed sounded like a multi-channel headphone.

Since I did not find any "formal" instruction on setting up CMSS-3D Headphone, I'm asking you Gurus what's the "correct" way to set it up.

The way I have it seems to work, but is it the right way?

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Also, I think you can use 7.1 instead of 5.1 too since Creative advertised that games and music will sound "just as good if not better than a 7.1 surround speaker set". - Source here
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@Antes533
on my main OS it doesn't install the drivers, only on the fresh os. why?
it's like it doesn't see the soundcard or something

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something blocking it? it installed everything but not the drivers

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Headphone mode switches the card to downmixing mode. Windows multichannel sound switches to 2.0 and it does not interact with the Windows audio panel. That's how it should be. This is the solution that the creative team made.

on my main OS it doesn't install the drivers, only on the fresh os. why?
Daniel's driver breaks the system... I've encountered this myself before... I've already written about it.

That's right, you need to enable headphone mode on the card and select multichannel in the Windows panel.
 
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