XFX XTS2 1200W - what is this unit?

[ProfessorZoom751]

Hey. First of all, I would like to say hello as a new user of this forum.

Does anyone have any information about the XFX XTS² 1200W power supply? I've found very little and very contradictory information about this PSU online - some say it's 80+ Platinum certified, others say it's 80+ Titanium certified. Both of these are confirmed by a photo of the nameplate, and my unit also has the 80+ Titanium certificate on the nameplate. But I haven't found any more detailed information about this PSU. Even the manufacturer doesn't really brag about this model.
The information from chatGPT wasn't very helpful, and I don't want to blindly believe everything I read there.

Regards.

 

[INSTG8R]

It will definitely have its rating badge on it somewhere no doubt about that. Most likely with the section listing all the rials, volts and amps
Juat a quick web search comes up as 80+ Gold
Edit on a bit deeper dig it actually appears to be a Platinum but as I also so said they is most definitely a badge on it that would confirm it.

 

[ProfessorZoom751]

With all due respect, did you even read my post? I wrote that there is conflicting, and additionally fragmentary, information on the internet about this particular model - some say 80+ Platinum certification, others 80+ Titanium, and in my case the latter, better certificate is on the nameplate.

I would also like to know what platform this particular power supply is based on.

Now I actually noticed that the "platinum" model is marked as P1-1200-XTS2 and the "titanium" as XPS-1200-XTS2, however both were sold as "XFX XTS2 1200W" and visually they are indistinguishable.

 

[INSTG8R]

As I said your answer shall be the rating badge you find on every PSU yes there is a lot of model “crossover” but the sticker on the unit is the easiest way to get your answer.

 

[ProfessorZoom751]

As I said your answer shall be the rating badge you find on every PSU yes there is a lot of model “crossover” but the sticker on the unit is the easiest way to get your answer.

But I don't want to know what certification I have, because I know that. I want to learn more about this PSU and the difference between the platinum model and the titanium model, because they were sold under the same name, but have a different certification and SKU number. For example, I would also like to know what platform this power supply is based on.

 

[INSTG8R]

Well the certifications are standard so that’s pretty easy information to find.

80 PLUS certification specifications and ratings | CLEAResult

80 PLUS is a certification program for internal power supply units (PSUs). Learn more about the 80 PLUS ratings, power supplies and FAQs.

corp.clearesult-preprod.com

 

[the54thvoid]

But I don't want to know what certification I have, because I know that. I want to learn more about this PSU and the difference between the platinum model and the titanium model, because they were sold under the same name, but have a different certification and SKU number. For example, I would also like to know what platform this power supply is based on.

Well, their (XFX) website is dogshit, but @INSTG8R has pointed you in the right direction. This is the best info you'll get.

XFX Technology XPS-1200W-XTS2 | 80 PLUS® Certified PSUs | CLEAResult

80 PLUS ® Platinum Certificate. Verification and Testing Report Overview. Manufacturer: XFX Technology. Model: XPS-1200W-XTS2

www.clearesult.com

 

[ProfessorZoom751]

Well, their (XFX) website is dogshit, but @INSTG8R has pointed you in the right direction. This is the best info you'll get.

XFX Technology XPS-1200W-XTS2 | 80 PLUS® Certified PSUs | CLEAResult

80 PLUS ® Platinum Certificate. Verification and Testing Report Overview. Manufacturer: XFX Technology. Model: XPS-1200W-XTS2

www.clearesult.com

Then why did XFX sell one PSU under two different SKUs, and why does the XPS-1200-XTS2 have that bullshit 80+ Titanium certification badge?

 

[Marcus L]

Email xfx support and see if they can give you more info, if there's little floating about the internet about the differences between the two units why do you think it would be better asking here than contacting them directly

 

[the54thvoid]

Then why did XFX sell one PSU under two different SKUs, and why does the XPS-1200-XTS2 have that bullshit 80+ Titanium certification badge?

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Different markets have differing thresholds. Check the link INSTG8R gave you. It's all there.

80 PLUS certification specifications and ratings | CLEAResult

80 PLUS is a certification program for internal power supply units (PSUs). Learn more about the 80 PLUS ratings, power supplies and FAQs.

corp.clearesult-preprod.com

 

[ProfessorZoom751]

Different markets have differing thresholds

This power supply is Platinum certified only at 115V input voltage. So, if I understand correctly, XFX could have performed its own measurements at 230V according to the CLEAResult methodology and with this input voltage they came up with the power supply being in Titanium? Because that's the only way to explain the 80+ Titanium badge on the label.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Then why did XFX sell one PSU under two different SKUs, and why does the XPS-1200-XTS2 have that bullshit 80+ Titanium certification badge?

Different SKUs perhaps because slightly different models may have been sold in different global regions (or "markets", as the54thvoid notes) of the world. That said, in many, of not most cases, PSUs made by global corporations support universal inputs so the primary difference, in most cases, is (maybe) the language of the included documentation and the insertion of the correct power cord for that region.

I will note that XFX "appears" to have dropped out of the PSU market over 5 years ago. While they still have some on their website, I note not one links to anything. And there is no mention at all of PSUs on their homepage.

I also see their homepage says "XFX AMD". While I understand they have some sort of exclusive agreement with AMD (and don't make NVIDIA cards any more), I see "XFX AMD" in several places but can find no information anywhere about any sort of merger or acquisition.

I used to really like XFX - but all this iffiness is enough to make me shy away from them now.

 

[dirtyferret]

This power supply is Platinum certified only at 115V input voltage. So, if I understand correctly, XFX could have performed its own measurements at 230V according to the CLEAResult methodology and with this input voltage they came up with the power supply being in Titanium? Because that's the only way to explain the 80+ Titanium badge on the label.

You can't do your own internal testing and have a legit badge. 230v is a more efficient than 115v so markets that use 230v will have more efficient PSU (using the exact same model) than 115v markets

I will note that XFX "appears" to have dropped out of the PSU market over 5 years ago.

I was going to say, I have not heard from them since what 2016/2017?

I would also like to know what platform this particular power supply is based on

XFX primarily used seasonic as the OEM/ODM so if I had to guess it's XP3 (cooler master used one too for a 1200w) or KF3. There was some cost cutting done by XFX on their units towards the end. I don't recall ever seeing a review for this exact model.

 

[Athlonite]

I want to learn more about this PSU and the difference between the platinum model and the titanium model

The only difference will be the quality of the components inside and it's quite usual for a PLatinum model tested on 115V to be designated Titanium when tested on 230V as the voltage and current draw are less at the wall on 230V/5A 60Hz than on 115V/6A 50Hz my gold rated PSU gets very close to a platinum rated PSU's efficiency here in NZ vs it's US gold rating at 115V/5A

Believe me you wont notice that much of a difference between the Platinum or Titanium rated PSU's when it comes to power draw from the wall and that's what really counts it's a 1~2% difference in efficiency at most @ 50% usage ever so slightly more for the Titanium at higher usage scenarios which just means slightly less heat produced by the PSU but not by much

 

[Dr. Dro]

The only power supplies from XFX with a Titanium rating are the ones ending in -XTI, there's a 850 and a 1000 W model. Titanium label for the XTS2 should be considered false advertising.

Before they exited every market and positioned themselves as an AMD-focused AIB selling only Radeon GPUs, XFX was rather fond of overmarketing their products to an irrational extent, something that was often seen as negative because they didn't make bad products at all but marketed them so aggressively that it could very well sketch you out as their company being a scam. This might have been one of their last products that followed this scheme. They nuked all references of their other products from their website, including the support section.

The only difference will be the quality of the components inside and it's quite usual for a PLatinum model tested on 115V to be designated Titanium when tested on 230V as the voltage and current draw are less at the wall on 230V/5A 60Hz than on 115V/6A 50Hz my gold rated PSU gets very close to a platinum rated PSU's efficiency here in NZ vs it's US gold rating at 115V/5A

True, but it's noteworthy that this is still a misuse of the label and it's not Titanium certified at all. All 80 Plus certification tiers are done at 115 V, with the exception of the clearly designated "230V EU" version for Europe, and they're two distinct certification types. Most other countries have 115V or thereabouts mains voltage, and the lower the input voltage the harder it is for a power supply to convert with high efficiency. So if a power supply can hit Titanium like efficiencies at 230 V (most will, if they're 115 V Platinum or even the better Gold units), they still aren't Titanium on two grounds: the certification process, and the fact that Titanium has mandatory >90% conversion efficiency at <10% load and no Platinum and under PSU can achieve this.

 

[OolongGoat]

I would highly recommend emailing or calling XFX if it is bothering you that much.

When I have contacted them in the past, they have been most helpful. I would definitely have the unit nearby in case they need to reference anything on it.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I would highly recommend emailing or calling XFX if it is bothering you that much.

When I have contacted them in the past, they have been most helpful. I would definitely have the unit nearby in case they need to reference anything on it.

It's on the CLEAResult database as a Platinum, but I will give props to XFX if they admit they misused the rating label for false advertising

 

[Athlonite]

Most other countries have 115V or thereabouts mains voltage,

Er no most other countries use 220~240V mains voltage

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/mains-electricity-by-country

 

[dirtyferret]

It's on the CLEAResult database as a Platinum, but I will give props to XFX if they admit they misused the rating label for false advertising

an OEM can use a single platform to clear units across multi-brands if they use the same platform. It's BS and has been complained about for years but technically not false advertising if the OEM tells the brand "yes it passed that 80 plus test". This is also why people like Bill and myself have been stating the 80 plus badge has nothing to do with quality meaning it doesn't mean it is a quality unit or it's not. All it means is at some point that platform passed the 80 plus test under their testing conditions.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Mains electricity by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There's a better map showing mains voltage by country.

 

[ProfessorZoom751]

XFX primarily used seasonic as the OEM/ODM so if I had to guess it's XP3 (cooler master used one too for a 1200w) or KF3. There was some cost cutting done by XFX on their units towards the end.

And that's the answer I was looking for. Thank you very much.

230v is a more efficient than 115v so markets that use 230v will have more efficient PSU (using the exact same model) than 115v markets

Yes, that makes a lot of sense.

Different SKUs perhaps because slightly different models may have been sold in different global regions (or "markets", as the54thvoid notes) of the world. That said, in many, of not most cases, PSUs made by global corporations support universal inputs so the primary difference, in most cases, is (maybe) the language of the included documentation and the insertion of the correct power cord for that region.

I'm a bit dissatisfied with this, because both SKUs (P1-1200W-XTS2 and XPS-1200W-XTS2) were sold in Poland.

But thank you all very much for your answers. I think that the topic can be closed.