Windows 10 Vs 11, Which one to choose?

[Chrispy_]

10 was just an extension of the 8/8.1 mentality.

Yet here we are, 13 years after the launch of Windows 8 and ModernUI and I still sometimes get frustrated that the ModernUI "settings" lack the setting I'm looking for and I eventually get dumped out to the Windows NT-era control panel to configure something that Microsoft have wasted 13 years NOT migrating to the modern settings app.

We're still basically looking at a schizophrenic bastard hybrid of the NT-era classic control panel and the utter BS that Sinovsky introduced in 2012. The Migration that was supposed to be complete before Windows 8's launch still hasn't fully happened and we're left with this "lipstick on a pig" approach of running the incomplete ModernUI nonsense on top of the actual NT-era underlying framework still.

Microsoft really really really really really need to rip the band-aid off and just finish the full transition of all outstanding features to ModernUI so that they can finally retire the NT-era control panel. I'm sick of having 90% of the settings duplicated in both an old and new UI, with the new UI being frustratingly incomplete so that you can't even let go of the old UI. A year or two would have been excusable. 13 years and counting with near-zero progress is just a f*cking disgrace and it really shows how Microsoft are more focused on shoving their cloud/SAAS subscription products down your throat, rather than making changes to the UI or actual OS experience that could be considered improvements on the shortcomings of the previous version(s).

That's not really a 10 vs 11 thing, that's a "Jesus-Christ-on-a-bike, Microsoft. Stop being such a bunch of lazy, unfocused, incompetent slackers and finish the job - you missed the deadline 13 years ago and every year that passes makes it worse".

 

[Alyux]

Are you joking? The improved nature of the UI and settings is the primary reason I ditched Win10 LTSC for 11. 10 was just an extension of the 8/8.1 mentality. 11 has moved far enough away from that daft lacking thinking to be enjoyable again.

I don't agree at all, clearly we have very different ideas and preferences about what makes a UI change an improvement and what doesn't.
I'd elaborate more, but I don't see any point.

A year or two would have been excusable. 13 years and counting with near-zero progress is just a f*cking disgrace and it really shows how Microsoft are more focused on shoving their cloud/SAAS subscription products down your throat, rather than making changes to the UI or actual OS experience that could be considered improvements on the shortcomings of the previous version(s).

Agreed. Windows 365's existence proves this.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I don't agree at all, clearly we have very different ideas and preferences about what makes a UI change an improvement and what doesn't.

I'm coming from a Windows 7 perspective and school of thought, but...

I'd elaborate more, but I don't see any point.

...yeah, that would be a waste of time. We are not going to agree if you think the Windows 8 mentality was anything but a pathetic, juvenile attempt at remaking the Windows UI to be "mobile-centric".

Microsoft really really really really really need to rip the band-aid off and just finish the full transition of all outstanding features to ModernUI so that they can finally retire the NT-era control panel.

Phuq that!! What microsoft needs to do is move further back to the Windows 7(AKA Evolved NT) way of doing things. The "ModernUI" aka "MetroUI" was and still it complete garbage that has no place in actual modern computing.

you missed the deadline 13 years ago and every year that passes makes it worse".

Oh please, you know me well enough to know I'm a Windows 7 diehard and hold out. I still run it on several of my personal machines, very happily. Windows 11 is step back toward the Win7 ideal, something they desperately need to continue shifting back to.

 

[AleXXX666]

Not the case for me because my undervolted RYZEN 7 7700 already is at the same speed as stock RYZEN 7 7700X and ram runs at tight timings 6000Mhz CL30 or faster than EXPO profile SSD is NM790 2TB

CPU-Z Benchmark for AMD Ryzen 7 7700 (1T) - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

Best CPU performance - 64-bit - June 2025

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what's the point of UV here? It's a desktop, too...

 

[Krit]

what's the point of UV here? It's a desktop, too...

It's very important in terms of noise output and temperatures the same goes for GPU.

When undervolted 7700 gets 7700X performance and way lower temps, power consumption, noise.

 

[AleXXX666]

It's very important in terms of noise output and temperatures the same goes for GPU.

When undervolted 7700 gets 7700X performance and way lower temps, power consumption, noise.

well, power consumption on DESKTOP is a problem when it's a SERVER and runs 24/7 doing heavy task. Noise and temps MUST be fixed with a PROPER COOLING.

 

[Nathaaab]

well, power consumption on DESKTOP is a problem when it's a SERVER and runs 24/7 doing heavy task. Noise and temps MUST be fixed with a PROPER COOLING.

Sometimes you can simply extract more performance when undervolting

 

[AleXXX666]

RYZEN 7000 Series are hot cpus in general and without undervolting even a great AIR coolers or AIO will not be enough! When we look at noise/temp results. Undervolting helps a lot mine runs at -35 all core that's a decent improvement.

used 7500F as personal build and created 2 7600X builds for clients. Mine was under Deepcool AG620 (single fan only), clients with Deepcool AG500 (put 2nd fan) and BeQuiet ShadowRock 3 - all 3 zero throttling or overheating using stock configuration, use cases for all 3 - generic home PC, with some gaming ("AAA" games etc, not "solitaire").

 

[95Viper]

The topic is: "Windows 10 Vs 11, Which one too choose?"
Stick to the topic.

 

[Athlonite]

RYZEN 7000 Series are hot cpus in general and without undervolting even a great AIR coolers or AIO will not be enough!

LOL Wut My 7800X3D + PBO at idle sits at 29c and in CB23 is running ~68c if your calling that hot I better start using dry ice or LN2