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ASUS ROG Crosshair X870E Extreme

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A halo tier flagship motherboard should be drooled-over by many and owned by few. There's no doubt that this is one of the most extreme X870E options on the market, featuring unique approaches to expansion and support for sub-ambient overclocking. But does it do enough justify the price tag?

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Still waiting for availability...
 
The Gigabyte X870E Elite works just fine for the £289 I paid for it. The only negative is the clunky bios. This mobo was at the time of purchase, was the best bang for buck X870E motherboard available. The other mobo I had been looking at was the Msi X870E Tomahawk, but it was nearly £100 more expensive. The top of the curve is £300, after which your just waisting money in a downward slope of dimishing returns.
 
I saw this board and had the urge to drag on a cigarette.

I quit smoking like 12 years ago.
 
Is it just me or is the traditional motherboard layout not very conducive to M.2 slots?

It's very limiting. Would be great if they could be rear mounted but that would require coordination with case manufacturers.
 
....and there it is.

The latest generation of $1000 motherboard. Utterly pointless, but hey if you want people to know you have so much money that you don't care about being ripped off, buy one of these to go with your Ferrari, Rolex, and Gucci suits.

$400 gets you everything X870E has to offer, right? So this is $600 of brand status and ASUS never disappoints (unless you want to claim on your warranty, of course).
 
Not as expensive as the MSI Godlike but more than the Taichi. There must be some serious lane sharing on this and sure enough

* When M.2_2 and M.2_3 are enabled simultaneously, PCIEX16(G5)_2 will be disabled.
** When M.2_3 is enabled, PCIEX16(G5)_1 will run x8, and PCIEX16(G5)_2 will run x4, M.2_2 will be disabled.
 
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Still not sure which one to use and which one to sell...
 
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Still not sure which one to use and which one to sell...

The one of the left definitely is going to give you more performance but the one of the right knows how to handle that AIO like a champ.... Such a hard decision.

Joking aside as a daily rig the extreme is probably better but if you want to tweak memory etc probably the apex.
 
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The one of the left definitely is going to give you more performance but the one of the right knows how to handle that AIO like a champ.... Such a hard decision.

Joking aside as a daily rig the extreme is probably better but if you want to tweak memory etc probably the apex.
Posted it as a joke. I'm an old guy who could never afford high-end HW and now for the past decade I finally can. Purchased this stuff purely for good feels, I gave up on OC and stuff years ago. Now I just enjoy the design and potential under the hood. In my opinion high-end stuff lost meaning and purpose decade and half ago. Back in the day high-end VGA or CPU truly made a difference, nowadays going for anything above entry -mid grade is either madness, or a hobby.
 
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Still not sure which one to use and which one to sell...
It's not even a question. Even if you do zero OC the Apex with it's 1DPC design allows running EXPO kits at higher speeds. Even if you do zero tuning. (unless you absolutely need more than 128GB of RAM).
ASUS AIO's are the most overpriced next to Corsair's. An Arctic AIO can do the same job 3x cheaper.
Extreme is as pointless as all other equivalents like Godlike etc.

So sell left and top and keep right.

Speaking of the review - i much rather hope for X870E Apex review.
 
one pay 1,000$ for "overclocking" features vrm etc. just to get an Asus "scumbag" disclaimert that overclocking can void warranty, thus they wash their hands in case of anything goes wrong.
ps: dissapointing overclocking review. no offence, but what's the point of getting an X and an E and also an explicit extreme in name of the motherboard if no overclocking review.
 
Anyone who wants the M2 card can pay $99



The Taichi si the cheapest board that will support this but not fully.
That's true. Not very elegant, but true. There are brand-less passive controller-less PCi-e M.2 adapters, both for single and up to 4 drives [up to 8 with controller and for PCi-e 5.0 with 8 PCi-e 4.0 drives each munching on 2 PCi-e lanes]. But the Apex and Extreme have this built in, only shame is it's limited to PCi-e 4.0 for some unknown reason. Also Asus should drop 2 DiMM slots on Extreme, they stand in the way even with Nitropath and all other bells and whistles.
 
That's true. Not very elegant, but true. There are brand-less passive controller-less PCi-e M.2 adapters, both for single and up to 4 drives [up to 8 with controller and for PCi-e 5.0 with 8 PCi-e 4.0 drives each munching on 2 PCi-e lanes]. But the Apex and Extreme have this built in, only shame is it's limited to PCi-e 4.0 for some unknown reason. Also Asus should drop 2 DiMM slots on Extreme, they stand in the way even with Nitropath and all other bells and whistles.
What I like about them is they keep Pcie 5.0 drives nice and cool. The fan and the double heatsink actually work
 
What I like about them is they keep Pcie 5.0 drives nice and cool. The fan and the double heatsink actually work
Yup, that's why I love DiMM.2/Z.2 modules, exactly because of that reason.

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Blowing right at the DiMM.2/Z.2 module. I feel ya
 
So a $1000 halo tier board and they cheap out with just 5gbps ethernet instead of 10, typical Asus :rolleyes:
 
So a $1000 halo tier board and they cheap out with just 5gbps ethernet instead of 10, typical Asus :rolleyes:
I'm honestly glad they stopped equipping these boards wirh that 2,5 gbps hunk of a turd that disconnected like 1000x a day. So that's some progress. Remember when Asus had to put 4 years old NiC inside Z790 Apex while Z690 Apex had current NiC? Now that was something. And TBT, I have Aquantia 10 gbps solution throughout some builds of mine and they're not doing that well. Is there an Intel equivalent on the market? And also one that doesn't need dedicated heatsink?
 
I'm honestly glad they stopped equipping these boards wirh that 2,5 gbps hunk of a turd that disconnected like 1000x a day. So that's some progress. Remember when Asus had to put 4 years old NiC inside Z790 Apex while Z690 Apex had current NiC? Now that was something. And TBT, I have Aquantia 10 gbps solution throughout some builds of mine and they're not doing that well. Is there an Intel equivalent on the market? And also one that doesn't need dedicated heatsink?
I solved 2.5 disconnection issues on my X570 board (Realtek NIC) by setting manual IP and gateway addresses and disabling DHCP.
 
I solved 2.5 disconnection issues on my X570 board (Realtek NIC) by setting manual IP and gateway addresses and disabling DHCP.
For me, what worked on my B550 board was fucking around with different settings for power management in the NIC device options and trying different driver versions. Why does one driver version disconnects and throttles while the other doesn’t even though they are like one sub-version apart and there is nothing in the changelog indicating a fixed issue? It’s a mystery, Realtek works in inscrutable ways.
 
For me, what worked on my B550 board was fucking around with different settings for power management in the NIC device options and trying different driver versions. Why does one driver version disconnects and throttles while the other doesn’t even though they are like one sub-version apart and there is nothing in the changelog indicating a fixed issue? It’s a mystery, Realtek works in inscrutable ways.
Yeah i tried all those things and driver versions, power settings did not help. The only thing that somewhat helped was manually limiting the speed to 1G, instead of 2.5G. That made the disconnects less frequent. It wasn't until i manually set IP and gateway until i could run full 2.5G with no issues.
 
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