What would you buy?

[Konceptz]

Pricing alone; the 9060xt @16gb is the only one that makes sense.

 

[InVasMani]

As the poll goes probably RX 9060 XT 16GB or ARC B580 2GB. Very interested in the Arc B60 Dual 48GB though from a tinkering standpoint it looks really fun.

 

[Bet0n]

As a casual player who mainly plays esports type of games occasionaly so I don't care about 16 GB memory I choose the 5060 8 GB vs the 9600 XT 8 GB. Both are $300 and the XT is only ~5% faster overall but the 5060 eats less, it's quieter and it supports DLSS (while I have an RX 5700 right now and have been using Radeon since 2020).
Only if my options are these. But I rather buy used, the deals are better on the second hand market in this segment.
AMD needs to lower the price of the 9060 XT 8 GB.

 

[Vayra86]

Honestly, none of these. I'd rather keep running my existing card or save up for a 9070. The midrange is just a mess right now.

Completely agree. Total waste of time and money. Save more for something better, or skip.

As a casual player who mainly plays esports type of games occasionaly so I don't care about 16 GB memory I choose the 5060 8 GB vs the 9600 XT 8 GB. Both are $300 and the XT is only ~5% faster overall but the 5060 eats less, it's quieter and it supports DLSS (while I have an RX 5700 right now and have been using Radeon since 2020).
Only if my options are these. But I rather buy used, the deals are better on the second hand market in this segment.
AMD needs to lower the price of the 9060 XT 8 GB.

Or this, indeed.

 

[TheGeekn°72]

Fixed

Hello wanted to ask, no B570 10GB ? was it forgotten or did it get consideration and removed for a reason ? was curious about its absence from the poll

Honestly, none of these. I'd rather keep running my existing card or save up for a 9070. The midrange is just a mess right now.

I have terrible news for you : 70Ti/XT(/770?) are mid range, 60Ti/XT/580/570 are low range, 50 is a waste of sand.
Low range's a mess, mid range is pretty straight forward, high end is... well honestly, I'm surprised of the current non existence of it but between the Super refresh and noise of sounds of rumors about 9080/9090XTs that could come Q3/Q4, we could also be in the middle of two release cycles (for some vague reason beyond my understanding -aside of limited silicon allocations-)

 

[W1zzard]

no B570 10GB ? was it forgotten or did it get consideration and removed for a reason ? was curious about its absence from the poll

Mostly forgotten

 

[Vayra86]

Hello wanted to ask, no B570 10GB ? was it forgotten or did it get consideration and removed for a reason ? was curious about its absence from the poll


I have terrible news for you : 70Ti/XT(/770?) are mid range, 60Ti/XT/580/570 are low range, 50 is a waste of sand.
Low range's a mess, mid range is pretty straight forward, high end is... well honestly, I'm surprised of the current non existence of it but between the Super refresh and noise of sounds of rumors about 9080/9090XTs that could come Q3/Q4, we could also be in the middle of two release cycles (for some vague reason beyond my understanding -aside of limited silicon allocations-)

x70ti is mid range? I'd say its the first forage into the high end segment - always has been.
x70 is the mid range performance GPU. There's nothing above it you can realistically call midrange, neither price or perf wise.

Take Pascal.
The 1070 is an entire tier below the x70ti and the latter is practically a 1080 which is the sub-top GPU of the line.
The x60ti is also a midrange card; in Pascal's case being the 1060 6GB. Its entering concession territory, but will still play anything.

The x60 is the absolute bottom of the midrange. It will play most games, with huge concessions.
The x50 is low end territory, don't even bother, just use an IGP or go bigger.

This applies to anything from Kepler to present day. The only real change over all that time was that we got an x90 which was originally called a Titan (so what really changed lol), and the performance delta between highest and lowest cards has increased, as has the price delta. To facilitate that, there are more SKUs like Nvidia's 103 die.

 

[Onasi]

@Vayra86
Yeah, it’s been pretty consistent in market positioning, performance deltas fluctuating aside:

x90/x90Ti/Titan - Halo
x70Ti/x80/x80Ti - High end to Enthusiast (whatever that means)
x70/x60Ti/x60 - Mainstream of various stripes
x50 and below (lol) - Entry offerings

Pretty much the only time this paradigm broke a bit was with Turing since it had that weird situation of having both the 20 and the 16 series. But, I suppose, in that context it could have been argued that effectively the 2060/2060S was a x60Ti sort of deal with the 1660 family being the regular x60 in terms of positioning.

 

[TheGeekn°72]

x70ti is mid range? I'd say its the first forage into the high end segment - always has been.
x70 is the mid range performance GPU. There's nothing above it you can realistically call midrange, neither price or perf wise.

Take Pascal.
The 1070 is an entire tier below the x70ti and the latter is practically a 1080 which is the sub-top GPU of the line.
The x60ti is also a midrange card; in Pascal's case being the 1060 6GB. Its entering concession territory, but will still play anything.

The x60 is the absolute bottom of the midrange. It will play most games, with huge concessions.

x90/x90Ti/Titan - Halo
x70Ti/x80/x80Ti - High end to Enthusiast (whatever that means)
x70/x60Ti/x60 - Mainstream of various stripes
x50 and below (lol) - Entry offerings

Pretty much the only time this paradigm broke a bit was with Turing since it had that weird situation of having both the 20 and the 16 series. But, I suppose, in that context it could have been argued that effectively the 2060/2060S was a x60Ti sort of deal with the 1660 family being the regular x60 in terms of positioning.

I mean, I guess it depends on how the dies are cut from one SKU to another ? there have been different classes with not so large gaps and some others that simply don't make sense with how large the gap is but I guess it does apply here...

 

[Onasi]

I mean, I guess it depends on how the dies are cut from one SKU to another ?

It does not in terms of how NVidia positions the cards in the market, nor how the consumers perceive them. Most of them have no fucking clue about dies and silicon and SKUs, they just know that NV has a mostly sane, easy to grasp hierarchy. And said hierarchy and model numbering has been consistent for what, 15 years now since the 200 series? Unlike AMD, by the way, who change their naming schemes every time their marketing department has a stroke.

 

[Rabit]

I still fine with my $75 Sapphire GPRO X080 - mining version of RX 6700, any port of game released on PS5 working fine on this GPU I using it already 2 years
I will wait after PS6 release to upgrade GPU maybe RDNA5 60 class

 

[Rover4444]

B580 if I could actually find one at that price. Since I can't, 5060 Ti 16GB because it actually does well at what I want it do. Memory and non-gaming performance of the 9060 XT is abysmal. If the new ROCM improves it significantly I might pick one up at MSRP maybe.

 

[b1k3rdude]

The 16gb 9060, to have as a backup card.

But when I can pickup a 12gb 3060 for £175 with a 5yr warranty, I would only consider the 9060Xt 16gb if I could find it for £250 or less

 

[Vayra86]

I mean, I guess it depends on how the dies are cut from one SKU to another ? there have been different classes with not so large gaps and some others that simply don't make sense with how large the gap is but I guess it does apply here...

Yeah I agree, shifts happen

It does not in terms of how NVidia positions the cards in the market, nor how the consumers perceive them. Most of them have no fucking clue about dies and silicon and SKUs, they just know that NV has a mostly sane, easy to grasp hierarchy. And said hierarchy and model numbering has been consistent for what, 15 years now since the 200 series? Unlike AMD, by the way, who change their naming schemes every time their marketing department has a stroke.

It doesn't?
The SKU is not always the Geforce moniker it gets, but other than that. And relatively speaking, every time, the whole tier list is complete and there is a gap in performance between most if not all cards.

 

[cerulliber]

none gpu worth buy, no gpu deliver great value for money today, rather stay with igpu or whatever second hand gpu can you afford if any.
let them rot in the stores and put your money in investments untill next quarter

 

[Bomby569]

i think i will finally buy the 5070 super, depending on price

 

[renz496]

I go to the retail looking for 5060Ti 16GB at launch but end up returning with 5070 because it is being sold at MSRP.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

not listed but i picked the RX 7600 8GB for my secondary system, the price was right and it will compliment the rig well over a 1650 4GB

 

[RandallFlagg]

Not sure what the point of this polling is without context. If money is not of concern, then the highest performer here is the 5060 Ti 16GB, but at $440 it is also $190 more expensive than the B580.

That said if I were building within a budget, and knew that any savings would be applicable to a higher end CPU / storage / more memory / better motherboard etc. and said build is midrange (which is what I'm assuming), I'd go with that B580.

If one is on the lower end with the other components in the build, $190 can have an outsize impact on the CPU, memory, and storage. Like bumping up one CPU tier (say 9600X -> 9700X) and going from 1TB to 2TB on SSD and doubling RAM. So in that scenario, the B580 is really a no-brainer. This doesn't work as well if one is already planning to get a 9700X / 265K 2TB and 32GB.

 

[OneSorcerer]

I would buy the RTX 5060ti just because of path of exile 2. Nvidia runs this game much, much better, and dlss is the only upscaler that looks good in it.

 

[TechnoLadz]

None. 6700 XT for $200

None. 6700 XT for $200

Or 4070, 7800 XT and 6800 XT for $250-$300 used; but because I'm in the UK, not USA, it's more likely for me to find it at that price. There's also a 9070 GRE available on Facebook near me for like £350 (Equivalent to $370-ish, accounting for tax)

 

[Krit]

Or 4070, 7800 XT and 6800 XT for $250-$300 used

Usually RTX 4070 even used will be overpriced RX 7800 XT and RX 6800 XT in a less extent but still. Right now for the best prices are going RTX 3080 ~ 340€. It will destroy RTX 5060 Ti 16GB crap for 460€.

RTX 5060 Ti 16GB is 35% more expensive but RTX 3080 is 22% faster.

 

[sbacc]

It does not in terms of how NVidia positions the cards in the market, nor how the consumers perceive them. Most of them have no fucking clue about dies and silicon and SKUs, they just know that NV has a mostly sane, easy to grasp hierarchy. And said hierarchy and model numbering has been consistent for what, 15 years now since the 200 series? Unlike AMD, by the way, who change their naming schemes every time their marketing department has a stroke.

I would argue that the gains between generations (except for the halo class) have lowered to a point where unless you are upgrading from something old, you have to move up in the stack to get a meaningful upgrade and that wasn't the case even a few generations back...

Edit: PS by meaningful upgrade I mean at least 50% higher performance, under that I always find it wasn't worth the upgrade... unless you are already at the halo tier and REALLY need more perf

 

[ARF]

Usually RTX 4070 even used will be overpriced RX 7800 XT and RX 6800 XT in a less extent but still. Right now for the best prices are going RTX 3080 ~ 340€. It will destroy RTX 5060 Ti 16GB crap for 460€.

RTX 5060 Ti 16GB is 35% more expensive but RTX 3080 is 22% faster.

Nvidia cheats. There is no way that a card with miserable 8 - 10 GB framebuffer would "destroy" anything. It is a stutter fest with extremely low lows 1 percentile and 0.1 percentile. So, please, enough with the fake "news".

 

[Krit]

Nvidia cheats. There is no way that a card with miserable 8 - 10 GB framebuffer would "destroy" anything. It is a stutter fest with extremely low lows 1 percentile and 0.1 percentile. So, please, enough with the fake "news".

In some cases yes but at least in 90% games RTX 3080 will be ahead for much less money. If you are limited to 10GB or 12GB of VRAM just tune settings. No need to defend such a poor product like a RTX 5060 Ti 16GB when RTX 5070 12GB is way better product for not much more money aka +43% performance increase @4k. That's a good jump by today's greedy leather jacket standards.

The choice is very simple you choose raw power better p/p or weak expensive worse p/p but more VRAM "on paper" RTX 3080 still will be better "cost per frame" gpu than even RTX 5070 12GB and RTX 5060 Ti 16GB is far behind.