System Name | Ugh... |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D |
Motherboard | ASUS ProArt X870E Creator WiFi |
Cooling | ASUS ROG RYUJIN III 360 ARGB EXTREME [Case fans: (6x Montech RX140) + (1x AX140)] |
Memory | 48GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Royal 8000 CL34 |
Video Card(s) | PNY RTX 5090 EPIC-X ARGB OC |
Storage | 2x Kingston Fury Regnegade G5 4TB | 2x Transcend 250S 4TB |
Display(s) | ASUS ROG Swift PG27UCDM | 27" 4K 240Hz QD-OLED |
Case | Antec C8 |
Audio Device(s) | Sennheiser HD660S |
Power Supply | ASUS ROG THOR 1600W Titanium III |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero |
Keyboard | Logitech G915 X Tactile Mechanical |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit |
Benchmark Scores | I don't use a bench - I use a table, without marks |
The "regular" 3050 also had 8GB of VRAM, and a decent power consumption advantage over both the 2060 and 3060.Did the 3050 almost beat the 2060 when it came out? No this is closer to last gen than the 3050 was to the 2060
So, since the price is not good the card is not good, you seem to be the first to ignore what you would like to explain.....Okay, let’s not jump off a cliff here, it’s not a fucking glorified display adapter, it’s actually a perfectly viable and decently performant budget card. The issue is, as is always these days, the price. The card itself is fine.
Not satisfied, you try to squeeze the technical discussion into your funnel.Christ, I understand that nuance is very hard and outrageous claims are edgy and cool and makes one feel tingly in their no-no bits, but please, let’s actually act like tech enthusiasts and not gibbering goblins.
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5700X |
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Motherboard | ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming Wifi II |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12S Redux |
Memory | 4x8G Teamgroup Vulcan Z DDR4; 3600MHz @ CL18 |
Video Card(s) | MSI Ventus 2X GeForce RTX 3060 12GB |
Storage | WD_Black SN770, Leven JPS600, Toshiba DT01ACA |
Display(s) | Samsung ViewFinity S6 |
Case | Fractal Design Pop Air TG |
Power Supply | Corsair CX750M |
Mouse | Keychron M1 |
Keyboard | Keychron C2 Pro |
VR HMD | Valve Index |
Cons:
1. Illogical / stupid PCB design - 30% of the PCB left empty.
2. Illogical cooling solution - oversized heatsink, but only two pathetic heat pipes - it actually means the card occupies quite large volumes in the users' PC cases.
3. Pathetically low performance.
4. Pathetically high price.
5. No generational improvement at all.
6. Downgrade with only 8 GB of VRAM. 12 GB should be the bare minimum these days for anything.
System Name | G-Station 2.0 "YGUAZU" |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X470 Aorus Gaming 7 WiFi |
Cooling | Freezemod: Pump, Reservoir, 360mm Radiator, Fittings / Bykski: Blocks / Barrow: Meters |
Memory | Asgard Bragi DDR4-3600CL14 2x16GB |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire PULSE RX 7900 XTX |
Storage | 240GB Samsung 840 Evo, 1TB Asgard AN2, 2TB Hiksemi FUTURE-LITE, 320GB+1TB 7200RPM HDD |
Display(s) | Samsung 34" Odyssey OLED G8 |
Case | Lian Li Lancool 216 |
Audio Device(s) | Astro A40 TR + MixAmp |
Power Supply | Cougar GEX X2 1000W |
Mouse | Razer Viper Ultimate |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman Elite (Red) |
Software | Windows 11 Pro, Garuda Linux |
Tbh, this is the only card that should be 8GB
, given it uses older GDDR6.
Pricing should have been max $220-$230, but I digress.
$250 makes it the worse SM/$ in the lineup, especially next to the 5060s.
I agree that $250 for this is a joke, but imho the real joke is the power consumption. I'd rather have it detuned so it could stay slot-powered, it'd be a nice usp in its class.
System Name | The Workhorse |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen R9 5900X |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Aorus B550 Pro |
Cooling | CPU - Noctua NH-D15S Case - 3 Noctua NF-A14 PWM at the bottom, 2 Fractal Design 180mm at the front |
Memory | GSkill Trident Z 3200CL14 |
Video Card(s) | NVidia GTX 1070 MSI QuickSilver |
Storage | Adata SX8200Pro 1 TB |
Display(s) | LG 32GK850G |
Case | Fractal Design Torrent (Solid) |
Audio Device(s) | Sennheiser HD598, FiiO E-10K DAC/AMP, Samson Meteorite USB Microphone |
Power Supply | Corsair RMx850 (2018) |
Mouse | Zaopin Z1 Pro on a X-Raypad Heavy Bee Redtail |
Keyboard | Cooler Master QuickFire Rapid TKL (Cherry MX Black) |
Software | Windows 11 Pro (24H2) |
The price is “not good” on EVERY GPU in the current market. Is ~3000 dollars a “good price” for a 5090? If not, does that make that card “not good” either? Do you not understand the difference between a genuinely bad product that is fundamentally flawed (the 3050, yes) and a perfectly fine product that is priced poorly? The 5050 is a poorly priced card. But claiming that it’s a “bad card” is disingenuous. Because that implies it would still be bad at 200, which it would not.So, since the price is not good the card is not good, you seem to be the first to ignore what you would like to explain.....
…what part of this do you not understand?It costs only 50 dollars less than the 5060, which goes 30% more and in practice also consumes the same.
You realize that the post of mine that you are quoting was in the response to an overreaction by another poster comparing this card to x30 tier cards of the past, right? It wasn’t me defending the MSRP.For a flat 200 it would actually be a banger card for people on a budget. For 250 it’s a joke and every AIB model that’s over that is an entire circus. No, please, I am sure that this 130 watt GPU absolutely NEEDS a tri-fan solution.
Intel's best, the Arc B580, is 5% faster than NVIDIA's new weakest GPU,
The price is “not good” on EVERY GPU in the current market. Is ~3000 dollars a “good price” for a 5090? If not, does that make that card “not good” either? Do you not understand the difference between a genuinely bad product that is fundamentally flawed (the 3050, yes) and a perfectly fine product that is priced poorly? The 5050 is a poorly priced card. But claiming that it’s a “bad card” is disingenuous. Because that implies it would still be bad at 200, which it would not.
…what part of this do you not understand?
Yes, let's act like tech enthusiasts and not defend a garbage overpriced card.let’s actually act like tech enthusiasts
The price being bad on every other GPU doesn't excuse the price of the low end cards being bad, I've seen the "but every card is expensive" defense being used on every 50 series GPU launch.The price is “not good” on EVERY GPU in the current market.
Given how tiny the die is, and all of the wasted PCB space, I think it's fair to call it a 5030, also because Nvidia has shifted everything up in price a whole tier while giving the consumer less percentage of the full die.overreaction by another poster comparing this card to x30 tier cards of the past
Processor | Ultra 7 265K |
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Motherboard | Asus Strix Z890-E Gaming |
Cooling | Koolance 380i, Black Ice Nemesis GTS360 + Phanteks T30 |
Memory | Kingbank 2x24 8400c40 |
Video Card(s) | Gainward RTX 3080Ti |
Storage | Samsung 990 Pro 1TB, UltraStar DC HC310 6TB |
Display(s) | Asus VG32VQ1B 1440P 165hz |
Case | Zalman X7 |
Audio Device(s) | EVGA NU Audio |
Power Supply | Corsair AX850 Titanium |
Mouse | Corsair Sabre Pro |
Keyboard | A4Tech KL7-MUU |
System Name | His & Hers |
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Processor | R7 5800X/ R9 7950X3D Stock |
Motherboard | X670E Aorus Pro X/ROG Crosshair VIII Hero |
Cooling | Corsair h150 elite/ Corsair h115i Platinum |
Memory | Trident Z5 Neo 6000/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16 Team T Force Nighthawk |
Video Card(s) | Evga FTW 3 Ultra 3080ti/ Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 |
Storage | lots of SSD. |
Display(s) | A whole bunch OLED, VA, IPS..... |
Case | 011 Dynamic XL/ Phanteks Evolv X |
Audio Device(s) | Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech G560/Samsung Q990B |
Power Supply | Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 1000w/850w |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero. |
Keyboard | Logitech - G915 LIGHTSPEED / Logitech G Pro |
Did the 3050 almost beat the 2060 when it came out? No this is closer to last gen than the 3050 was to the 2060
System Name | D.L.S.S. (Die Lekker Spoed Situasie) |
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Processor | i5-12400F |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B760M DS3H |
Cooling | Laminar RM1 |
Memory | 32 GB DDR4-3200 |
Video Card(s) | RX 6700 XT (vandalised) |
Storage | Yes. |
Display(s) | MSi G2712 |
Case | Matrexx 55 (slightly vandalised) |
Audio Device(s) | Yes. |
Power Supply | Thermaltake 1000 W |
Mouse | Don't disturb, cheese eating in progress... |
Keyboard | Makes some noise. Probably onto something. |
VR HMD | I live in real reality and don't need a virtual one. |
Software | Windows 11 / 10 / 8 |
Benchmark Scores | My PC can run Crysis. Do I really need more than that? |
It's not. With 11400F (a fairly common CPU for such buyers) the nVidia GPU is significantly faster, sometimes with >15% lead.I wonder if that's still the case if tested with a lesser CPU than the 9800X3D.
It should be 4GB.
Doesn't matter. Could be with GDDR5.
99$ or DOA.
It could be undervolted and underclocked.
130 watts is extremely high level of heat and this doesn't help at all for the "green policies" and global warming battle.
Agreed. 3 fans - a total nonsense. That's how much Gigabyte is environmentally conscious. Absurd.More laughable than this empty board is Gigabyte and other AIBs coming up with 3 fan designs for a GPU that barely needs a single one. Such a waste of copper and aluminum, just to fool the uninformed customer into overpaying for something they don't need.
To be fair to Gigabyte, there is the benefit of very low noise and temperatures with the large heatsink, as evidenced by the noise/temperature results in the review. They also have a smaller dual-fan model and low profile model in their product lineup for people looking to get smaller cards.More laughable than this empty board is Gigabyte and other AIBs coming up with 3 fan designs for a GPU that barely needs a single one. Such a waste of copper and aluminum, just to fool the uninformed customer into overpaying for something they don't need.
The 3050 wasn't that bad. My son has a 3050 8gb and it runs all his games fine. The price was a problem as inflation rose.@_JP_
…it’s still budget relative to the rest of the market and NVidias own product stack. It’s replacing the atrocity that was the 3050, which it does successfully. It’s essentially the best overall card in its price class by default because there IS NO competition in said class (yes, I would take it over the B580, before you ask). And the “muh previous gen higher tier” argument is tosh - the 750/750Ti weren’t faster than the 660, yet were still popular cards in their own right. Christ, I understand that nuance is very hard and outrageous claims are edgy and cool and makes one feel tingly in their no-no bits, but please, let’s actually act like tech enthusiasts and not gibbering goblins.
Yup.Are there any positive comments?
Processor | E5-4627 v4 |
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Motherboard | VEINEDA X99 |
Memory | 32 GB |
Video Card(s) | 2080 Ti |
Storage | NE-512 |
Display(s) | G27Q |
Case | MATREXX 50 |
Power Supply | SF850L |
Given how tiny the die is, and all of the wasted PCB space, I think it's fair to call it a 5030, also because Nvidia has shifted everything up in price a whole tier while giving the consumer less percentage of the full die.
This is a decent performance for a low-end card at all ultra settings. Not shabby at all!
I want to see the low-profile, slot powered versions!
Processor | Ryzen 7 5700X |
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Memory | 48 GB |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4080 |
Storage | 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe |
Display(s) | 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024 |
Software | Windows 10 64-bit |
Upscaling lowers the VRAM usage, because the game is rendered at lower resolution. Only FG increases VRAM usagedlss/fsr4/etc all require additional vram - and not too little - as does rt itself.
The 3060 12 GB, is kinda similar to the B580's situation. You do have more VRAM which will let you run bigger workloads, but your GPU horsepower is so limited that you will never get decent FPS in any of them, so you'll never run them in real-life. This means you'll use upscaling, for those resolutions, which brings the VRAM usage back down.3060 12gb