The small PCB and oversized cooler tells me a couple things.
As mentioned earlier, it comes in two more variants - dual-fan and low-profile. But it's not that much cheaper. The only thing missing is the single-fan variant.
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The small PCB and oversized cooler tells me a couple things.
RTX 5050 laptops already hitting the market so naming does not seem to be an issue. The mobile chipset uses GDDR7 VRAM rather than the GDDR6 of the discrete graphics cards.Lots of cheap “gaming laptops” will feature this GPU, but it will probably be marketed as something more than a 5050.
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True, fully aware of that. One of the reasons I want a slot powered unit is the PSU in the target system. There is no PCIe cable. I'd have to buy a whole new PSU or SFF system for a 5060 to work. If they can't do it I'd rather do a 3050, but an newer system is tempting me.5060 is certainly a better price/perf option in the current Blackwell lineup.
I'd bet real money they can pull it off to good effect. If they can do it with the 3050, they can do it with the 5050.I doubt there will be a slot powered variant unless the card is significantly nerfed on clocks/board draw.
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Cheapest 5050 i can find in Canada is 350.
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So $100 cheaper than 4060Cheapest 5050 i can find in Canada is 350.
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Yup 100$ cheaper for basically the same performance plus dlss and MFG, not seeing the huge issue, its also so much faster than a 3050 which the cheapest I could find was 260So $100 cheaper than 4060
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Huge triple-fan cooler on a low-end card, really Gigabyte? This could easily be cooled with a passive cooler.
There are many tests of gaming performance.I wish you guys would have a more in depth review of the video encoding quality between the different gpu vendors. Maybe this thing is worth the $275 just for nvenc encoding and decoding support?
It's annoying you mention it in the conclusion but have no testing of it.
However, there is an increase in usage from the native resolution without DLSS.Upscaling lowers the VRAM usage, because the game is rendered at lower resolution. Only FG increases VRAM usage
Tests of similar GPUs should not be done with high-maximum settings. You seem to ignore that the setting that affects the VRAM is the quality of the textures, especially when you can exclude the RT, and other things not suitable for this range.The 3060 12 GB, is kinda similar to the B580's situation. You do have more VRAM which will let you run bigger workloads, but your GPU horsepower is so limited that you will never get decent FPS in any of them, so you'll never run them in real-life. This means you'll use upscaling, for those resolutions, which brings the VRAM usage back down.
Unlike the B580, the 3060 has MUCH less raw GPU perf, which amplifies the problem. For DLSS Transformer upscaling specifically, the performance hit is much small on Blackwell than on older architectures, so this will cost you even more FPS and the extra VRAM won't help you one bit. But the 3060 is $220, I'd still pick the 5050 for 250 (if I had to choose between those two cards)
I think he meant that they are not enough to show the whole picture. If so I agree. You can't simulate VRAM usage with 5 minute ephemeral tests, among other things without considering the annoyance of the abnormal block that could have little impact on the overall average, while being annoying in practice.You are effectively calling W1z a liar. You need to stop. Your shtick is coming off like it's full on mindless drivel.
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that the difference in VRAM usage from 720p to 1080p is small
Tests of similar GPUs should not be done with high-maximum settings. You seem to ignore that the setting that affects the VRAM is the quality of the textures, especially when you can exclude the RT, and other things not suitable for this range.
One thing is clear: With the 3060 you can still keep that setting higher.
The overall weight of the game is not necessarily linked to the occupation of VRAM, that depends primarily on the quality of the assets, and, again, with the 3060 you can afford better assets.
There are cases of relatively light games that occupy more than 8GB of VRAM, just as there are heavy games that might not reach it, so it is not clear what you are forcing, which seems like a bottleneck, a sort of vademecum to defend the small quantity...
Playing with settign there are also cases in which you can aim for 1440p with DLSS, and when you do that and the VRAM does not reach the 12GB threshold, you will be able to make it work better, because it is predictable that if the upscaler starts with better textures the result will also be better.
Asset quality is one of the parameters that even the "laymen" notice well, in this case, as I said, it has little influence on the overall weight, but VRAM is needed.
Is Stellar Blade a heavy game? NO. Is Hogwarts Legacy without RT? Not even, so why treat as an axiom what is not?
I think he meant that they are not enough to show the whole picture. If so I agree. You can't simulate VRAM usage with 5 minute ephemeral tests, among other things without considering the annoyance of the abnormal block that could have little impact on the overall average, while being annoying in practice.
Without even considering the cases in which the textures are not loaded, or are loaded late. In those cases, the average frame rate value will matter even less.
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Yes RTX 5080 cost per frame is weak and RTX 5090 is even way worse than that. Only decent gpu from nvidia is RTX 5070 12GB where you are not burning money.I just realized that the 9070XT is only 16% slower than the 5080 at 2.5K now. For the going price of $700-$800, that's a killer deal over the $1300-$1500 5080.
The RTX 5080 was weak at launch even when considering the $999 MSRP. Now it's just plain ridiculous. I mean double the price for barely any additional performance doesn't sound like a good buy to me.Yes RTX 5080 cost per frame is weak and RTX 5090 is even way worse than that. Only decent gpu from nvidia is RTX 5070 12GB where you are not burning money.
This is also of interest to me. the wiki page says:I wish you guys would have a more in depth review of the video encoding quality between the different gpu vendors. Maybe this thing is worth the $275 just for nvenc encoding and decoding support?
It's annoying you mention it in the conclusion but have no testing of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVENCEighth generation, Ada Lovelace AD10x
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Nvidia announced the next-gen NVENC with 8K 10-bit 60FPS AV1 fixed function hardware encoder in Ada Lovelace GPUs.
Ninth generation, Blackwell GB20X
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Introduced support for 4:2:2 chroma subsampling and the AV1 Ultra High Quality mode. It is also said to be 5% more efficient over its predecessor.
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What's funny is i have a 5070 and 5090 (5070Ti as well)Yes RTX 5080 cost per frame is weak and RTX 5090 is even way worse than that. Only decent gpu from nvidia is RTX 5070 12GB where you are not burning money.
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That's great! If you have 4k 240hz screen. Next station RTX 6090 3500$.Sorry but 99% of people getting a 5090 aren't giving a shit about cost for frame. They want the best. My 5070 is weak plain and simple. But nixe argument to convince yourself to never get a 5090
True, fully aware of that. One of the reasons I want a slot powered unit is PSU in the target system. There is no PCIe cable. I'd have to buy a whole new PSU or SFF system for a 5060 to work. If they can't do it I'd rather do a 3050, but an newer system is tempting me.
I'd bet real money they can pull it off to good effect. If they can do it with the 3050, they can do it with the 5050.
Yes RTX 5080 cost per frame is weak and RTX 5090 is even way worse than that. Only decent gpu from nvidia is RTX 5070 12GB where you are not burning money.
We were actually talking about the 5080 which I noticed you own almost every mid to high end Blackwell but that one.What's funny is i have a 5070 and 5090 (5070Ti as well)
Sorry but 99% of people getting a 5090 aren't giving a shit about cost for frame. They want the best. My 5070 is weak plain and simple. But nixe argument to convince yourself to never get a 5090
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@1080p RTX 5070 Ti is 19% faster than RTX 5070 but costs 51% more.5070TI is also quite cost effective at MSRP and you're more or less getting more SM units per dollar. Card OC's extremely well.
If you don't OC, it has the highest efficiency on average. Better 4K card in regards to FPS/$.. esp since not bottlenecked to 12 gig.