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My current PSU died after 15 months , getting slideshows in games, which brand should I consider for durability purpose? I'm very tired of pulling the power on mobos and all the fkn hassles that come with it
 
Sorry for you loss. We don't know which brand/unit you had that died on you. Regardless, you gets unlucky sometimes with PSUs. But every manufacturer offers high end as well as low end or cheap units. Corsair company uses CWT OEM for their popular RMx series PSUs. You can consider it if available in your region. Seasonic and superflower are two well-known OEMs for your consideration.

Just narrow down your search for units available in your country as according to your budget and read reviews, I'll recommend https://hwbusters.com/psus/ for in-depth reviews for respective PSU. You'll find more recommended list by Aris there too.
 
I would avoid any Corsair PSU. Warranty does not matter when the corsair power supply unit experience sudden shutdowns after a few months in use in desktop idle. I'm well aware of that certain brands get more often reviewed on certain websites. (12 - 18 months time window to determine faulty corsair psu. I doubt the wattage ever exceeded 50% of the 750W rating.)

Of course a single malfunctioning unit which I had does not justify bashing corsair psu or any argument against corsair psus.
Usually people claim there are some bad units. People also claim you should not go for brands and go for certain products.

I'm just lucky with my current Enermax PSU. Was also on a tier list. Except i needed to ask for a second set of cables
 
The Tier list can be useful in choosing a replacement


My current PSU died after 15 months , getting slideshows in games, which brand should I consider for durability purpose? I'm very tired of pulling the power on mobos and all the fkn hassles that come with it

What supply and what symptoms? (Slide shows in games is not due to the power supply) and most supplies have at least 3 years of warrantee.

Is durability your only criterion? How about
  • Power output
  • Cost
  • Efficiency
  • Noise
 
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My suggestion if you're lunching power supplies is take a look at your loadout and what could pull so much power.
In the early times my Pentium 4 was lunching anything 420-700W every few months. Just couldn't win with that one.
Hopped over to Phenom II X4 and even the lowest quality ~550W garbage managed to survive a few years.
Make sure your board doesn't suck. Bad VRMs tends to be the core trigger for power supplies blowing up.

High amp rated power supplies are also necessary these days. We've finally stopped producing low amp equipment.
Those shiny new video cards and (near) future multi-NUMA CPUs have a great idle but drink power at max load.
My cute 750W Antec box from 2009 isn't gonna cut it with its single 25A rail.
Pick up a be quiet! or Super Flower ~1KW or higher like I did and be mindful of lower OCP.
 
My current PSU died after 15 months , getting slideshows in games, which brand should I consider for durability purpose? I'm very tired of pulling the power on mobos and all the fkn hassles that come with it
1) if the PSU is dead how are you getting a slideshow? The PC should not be turning on with a dead PSU. So you are you positive the issue is the PSU?
2) what PSU do you have? Even mediocre units have a warranty that lasts at least three years. Your current unit may still be under warranty, even if you buy another unit may as well exercise the warranty
3) the best "tier" list out there isn't that cultist (sorry Shrek) but rather the HB top PSU list that actually reviews the units and other lists (like cultists) build their lists off of based on their personal preference
4) virtually all brands offer a mix of units that are bad, mediocre, good, and excellent at various price points . Go off an independent professional review for the specif PSU rather than just blind brand loyalty.
 
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3) the best "tier" list out there isn't that cultist (sorry Shrek) but rather the HB top PSU list that actually reviews the units and other lists (like cultists) build their lists off of based on their personal preference

Good to know.
 
My current PSU died after 15 months
I'm very tired of pulling the power on mobos
Oh? How often are you seeing PSUs fail while still relatively new? One in 15 months could just be bad luck. Two in a short period could be VERY bad luck, or just a coincidence. Three would suggest mains or a facilities power/wiring issues.

You should probably check your wall outlets for proper wiring.

Every home and every computer user should have access to a AC Outlet Tester to ensure the wall outlet is properly wired and grounded to Earth ground. I recommend one that displays the actual voltage (instead of just LEDs) and a GFCI (ground fault circuit interrupt) indicator as it can be used to test bathroom and kitchen outlets (outlets near water) too. These testers can be found for your type and voltage outlet, foreign or domestic, (like this one for the UK, or this one for German outlets) at most home improvement stores, or even the electrical department at Wal-Mart. Use it to test all the outlets in the home and if a fault is shown, have it fixed by a qualified electrician.
 
The Tier list can be useful in choosing a replacement
Yeah durability is what my primary concern and power output quality would be the 2nd concern




What supply and what symptoms? (Slide shows in games is not due to the power supply) and most supplies have at least 3 years of warrantee.

Is durability your only criterion? How about
  • Power output
  • Cost
  • Efficiency
  • Noise
 
Hi, depending on your bugg,et I would recommend the corsair 1600 watt power supply to check out the reviews. A very high end manufacture makes these power supplies for corsair and they are rated as one of the best clean and stable output power supplies ever made for computers. Please read several reviews on this power supplies.
 
Hi, depending on your bugg,et I would recommend the corsair 1600 watt power supply to check out the reviews. A very high end manufacture makes these power supplies for corsair and they are rated as one of the best clean and stable output power supplies ever made for computers. Please read several reviews on this power supplies.

Haha, yea, every build should have a Corsair AX1600i, indiscriminately! :laugh:

1) if the PSU is dead how are you getting a slideshow? The PC should not be turning on with a dead PSU. So you are you positive the issue is the PSU?
2) what PSU do you have? Even mediocre units have a warranty that lasts at least three years. Your current unit may still be under warranty, even if you buy another unit may as well exercise the warranty
3) the best "tier" list out there isn't that cultist (sorry Shrek) but rather the HB top PSU list that actually reviews the units and other lists (like cultists) build their lists off of based on their personal preference
4) virtually all brands offer a mix of units that are bad, mediocre, good, and excellent at various price points . Go off an independent professional review for the specif PSU rather than just blind brand loyalty.

Yup, these are my questions as well. Until all of these are answered, cannot give a good answer to the thread.
 
Hi, depending on your bugg,et I would recommend the corsair 1600 watt power supply to check out the reviews. A very high end manufacture makes these power supplies for corsair and they are rated as one of the best clean and stable output power supplies ever made for computers. Please read several reviews on this power supplies.
Are you A Bot?
 
Hi, depending on your bugg,et I would recommend the corsair 1600 watt power supply
Huh? How about power requirements? If the OP only needs a quality 550W supply, buying a massively oversized unit will kill the budget.

We know nothing of the OP's hardware. For all we know he could be using an R3 with integrated graphics. So yeah, @jaggerwild has a point.

Yeah durability is what my primary concern and power output quality would be the 2nd concern
Sorry but your priorities are all wrong.

EVERYTHING inside your computer case depends on good, clean, stable power for stable operation, reliability and longevity of all your components and the computer in totality. Therefore, your top priority for your PSU should be the quality of its output power.

Quality output means great regulation and tight voltage tolerances across the full range of expected loads, great ripple suppression, good hold-up times, great excessive voltage and current protection, including inrush current and more. All that comes from a quality design, quality components, and quality construction.

Note if my computer has a maximum demand of 450W, it is MUCH MORE likely a poor quality 850W will fail prematurely (perhaps catastrophically, with a lot of collateral damage) than a top quality 550W PSU.

Shrek is right,
Is durability your only criterion? How about
  • Power output
  • Cost
  • Efficiency
  • Noise

Note that efficiency and noise are not true signs of quality. That is, you can have a relatively low efficiency supply with noisy fans that still provides "clean" and stable output voltages. But high efficiency and low noise typically do go hand in hand with quality. And note while the 80 PLUS certification is important, it really is only about efficiency and not quality.

Note also, there is a point of diminishing returns. I generally recommend getting, as a minimum, and 80 PLUS "Bronze" certified, and preferably "Gold". I do NOT recommend spending the extra money on Platinum, Titanium (and now Ruby in EU countries) unless you just happen to come across a too-good-to-pass up discount price.

Why not Titanium? Again, the higher certification rating does not imply cleaner outputs. So the only advantage is slightly higher (only ~4%) efficiency ratings. But if one really does the math, and truly understands the daily power requirements, it takes YEARS of use in energy cost savings to make up the difference in supply purchasing costs. YEARS! And before anyone balks, note the vast majority of computers are NOT up and running anywhere near 24 hours per day, let alone 24/7/365. And when they are up and running, most run closer to idle power demands than to the PSU's maximum capacity most of their up time. Research your local price per kilowatt/hour (average 12.89¢ to 17.45¢ in the US) then do the math.

Outpower wattage capacity also is NOT a sign of quality. That is, nothing says a 1600W supply will output cleaner, more stable power than a 550W supply.

Folks need to remember, the PSU will only deliver what the connected components ask for. PSUs deliver power, they don't push it. If the computer demands 400W, a capable 500W supply will deliver 400W just as an 850W supply or even a 1600W supply will. And there is NOTHING to suggest the bigger supplies will result in the computer having better performance, more stable operation, or better longevity.

@ionic_cloud - While your top priority should be the quality of the output, your first priority is to determine your power requirements. Sure, you can pad the results with a couple extra 100W. That will ensure some extra headroom for possible future upgrades. It may also result in the PSU's fan slowing down, or even stop spinning for quieter operation.

Durability does NOT imply quality. However, properly sized, quality supplies typically result in a durable supply.
 
your first priority is to determine your power requirements.
Yes, they shoulda started with their system config, including overclocks (if present), and their manner of operation.


It's like this:
"Recommend me a car."
"Ferrari F40."

All while the customer is doing off-road cargo delivery.
 
I would avoid any Corsair PSU.
Also got dead Corsair and Chieftec. Corsair is overpriced and quality is not the greatest.
 
I have killed Antec, Corsair, and Thermaltake so far.
 
Also got dead Corsair and Chieftec. Corsair is overpriced and quality is not the greatest.
And I am aware of failed EVGA, SuperFlower and Seasonic too. Until Man can create perfection 100% of the time, there will always be examples of premature failures, even with the best models from the best makers.

As for Corsair, they are like many manufacturers and produce many models of many products. Not all can or will be top-tier. So it is not fair to suggest all Corsair PSUs (or all this brand or all that brand) are inferior (or superior). Therefore, the lesson here is to do your homework and research the specific model you are considering - regardless the brand.
 
Until the OP returns, there is no point to really discuss this further.
 
And I am aware of failed EVGA, SuperFlower and Seasonic too. Until Man can create perfection 100% of the time, there will always be examples of premature failures, even with the best models from the best makers.

As for Corsair, they are like many manufacturers and produce many models of many products. Not all can or will be top-tier. So it is not fair to suggest all Corsair PSUs (or all this brand or all that brand) are inferior (or superior). Therefore, the lesson here is to do your homework and research the specific model you are considering - regardless the brand.
Usually PSU has the highest failure rate from all pc components at least in my experience.

To this day i have no issues with FSP, Enermax, Fractal Design, Be Quiet!, Antec, Seasonic, Cooler Master, Cougar, Sharkoon
 
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Oh? How often are you seeing PSUs fail while still relatively new? One in 15 months could just be bad luck. Two in a short period could be VERY bad luck, or just a coincidence. Three would suggest mains or a facilities power/wiring issues.

You should probably check your wall outlets for proper wiring.

Every home and every computer user should have access to a AC Outlet Tester to ensure the wall outlet is properly wired and grounded to Earth ground. I recommend one that displays the actual voltage (instead of just LEDs) and a GFCI (ground fault circuit interrupt) indicator as it can be used to test bathroom and kitchen outlets (outlets near water) too. These testers can be found for your type and voltage outlet, foreign or domestic, (like this one for the UK, or this one for German outlets) at most home improvement stores, or even the electrical department at Wal-Mart. Use it to test all the outlets in the home and if a fault is shown, have it fixed by a qualified electrician.
I would propose it also could be he is buying extremely budget/low quality units to save a buck. Avoid that if so, for sure.

Usually PSU has the highest failure rate from all pc components at least in my experience.
If you buy good ones, HDD failure rate will exceed it, ar least in my experience. But yeah its relatively high.
 
There is only one choice, SEASONIC.
When you see EVGA, ASUS, MSI....etc. they are rebranded SEASONIC.
The warranty is obscene, they offer 10 YEARS warranty.
Get a Seasonic Prime 1000W and never look back.
 
Usually PSU has the highest failure rate from all pc components at least in my experience.

If you buy good ones, HDD failure rate will exceed it, ar least in my experience. But yeah its relatively high.
I agree with R-T-B. That said, "relative high" is a relative term and may make folks think PSUs fail frequently. They don't.

Most decent PSUs will easily last until the user retires the computer, or upgrades the computer with a component (graphics card, for example) that requires a connector the current PSU does not have. That is, most either fail when new, or they last 8, 10 years or longer.

I will add this, if you want to give the PSU the best chance of lasting 10 years, feed the PSU clean, stable power. Your PSU deserves that just as the components in your computer case do.
 
There is only one choice, SEASONIC.
When you see EVGA, ASUS, MSI....etc. they are rebranded SEASONIC.

My EVGA 500 W1 is made by HEC
EVGA 500 W1.jpg
 
If you buy good ones, HDD failure rate will exceed it, ar least in my experience. But yeah its relatively high.
It depends, nowadays i'm not using hdds as they are too slow and noisy to use. In past i had the most Seagates, WD and Toshiba and none of them died even once but maybe it's the case because i change my pc's pretty often.
 
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