9800x3d temps

[Dyno]

What i noticed in this thread is not one mentioning which games they are playing. There is a big difference between games; how hot or hotter your cpu will get.

 

[Space Lynx]

What i noticed in this thread is not one mentioning which games they are playing. There is a big difference between games; how hot or hotter your cpu will get.

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that's because they are talking about idle temps mostly in this thread I think

 

[abdulhkeem]

I have - it's consistent-ish - it's just not consistent compared to other platforms.

The games that stutter stutter really hard - like run around hogwarts in hogwarts legacy and watch your 1% lows tank into the 40's as it loads in assets - that was not a thing on my old build. So when you compare 110 FPS avg and 70fps 1% lows vs 150Fps avg and usually 90 fps 1% but then every 3-4 seconds a 30fps 1% -- you see right away what experience feels smoother.

let me guess, you have memory integrity enabled right? disable it and test again, that thing brings more trouble than help i use kaspersky anyway don't need it been with them since 2009.

 

[phanbuey]

let me guess, you have memory integrity enabled right? disable it and test again, that thing brings more trouble than help i use kaspersky anyway don't need it been with them since 2009.

I've tried both - actually makes very little difference - makes a larger diff on intel. Also if you enable shadow stacks Ryzen's superpi 1m actually improves with VBS on (kind of crazy).

you have to disable it through the registry on 24h2. (Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\DeviceGuard)

the power draw is super nice though - cant complain there.

 

[Athlonite]

what games stutter for you specifically? I want to download them and give it a try just for the heck of it.

Every now and then CP2077 will but only if I turn on frame gen turn it off and stutters are gone (weird) no other game does it though so I think it's more a CP2077 thing because I'm not using an NV GPU or using DLSS and they just half arsed FSR

 

[Space Lynx]

Every now and then CP2077 will but only if I turn on frame gen turn it off and stutters are gone (weird) no other game does it though so I think it's more a CP2077 thing because I'm not using an NV GPU or using DLSS and they just half arsed FSR

yeah CP2077 is a nvidia game, shame they never added FSR4 for future playthroughs on next gen cards. X3D seems to be getting a bad rap here, and yet I only see one game named, and it is fixable. so i dunno lol

 

[abdulhkeem]

I've tried both - actually makes very little difference - makes a larger diff on intel. Also if you enable shadow stacks Ryzen's superpi 1m actually improves with VBS on (kind of crazy).

you have to disable it through the registry on 24h2. (Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\DeviceGuard)
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the power draw is super nice though - cant complain there.

are you using afterburner with gpu power monitor enabled?
watch this guy on youtube found it was causing him stutters too disabling it fixed it.
Link:
youtube

 

[l1CappYl1]

so i built a 9800x3d system but i am really nervous about the temps i am getting so when i have a/c on in the room i get 45-50 range on idle but whithout it it stays in the 50's and gaming goes pretty much near 75 without a/c never actually got 75 but 74 i live in a hot climate easily above 45 in the summer "now" room temp near 26-30's.
are those temps fine or did i mess up the thermal paste application?
specs:
MB asus x870e-e
CPU 9800x3d
cooler Noctua NH-U12A push/pull stock fans
GPU Asus Tuf 4070 ti
PSU Corsair HX1000i
SSD WD SN850X

Temps seem normal for this cpu. Mine is idle at 38°C for the package and 28 core using direct die liquid cooling with coolant at 22°C.

 

[Frizz]

yeah CP2077 is a nvidia game, shame they never added FSR4 for future playthroughs on next gen cards. X3D seems to be getting a bad rap here, and yet I only see one game named, and it is fixable. so i dunno lol

For me it was happening in MH Wilds and PoE 2 and FF7 Rebirth, to the point my 265K had comparable or even better 1% and 0.1% lows.

 

[phanbuey]

are you using afterburner with gpu power monitor enabled?
watch this guy on youtube found it was causing him stutters too disabling it fixed it.
Link:
youtube

No afterburner, and I've done the standard blow everything away and reinstall, C states on/off, etc. etc.

What I found with the 9800x3d Temps wise is idle is always high but the load is very reasonable - it doesnt really scale with core clock, so putting a -20 CO on it at stock gave some super low load temps on the air cooler, but I was still idling in 40-45C - wouldn't load above 78C ever at stock with CO - even after 20 mins of cinebench. Really nice - I think you can get away with $30 aircooler on it with no issues ever.

For me it was happening in MH Wilds and PoE 2 and FF7 Rebirth, to the point my 265K had comparable or even better 1% and 0.1% lows.

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I just put together the 265KF and did an apples to apples vs the 9800x3d with the same ram (waiting for my 8400 kit).

-Quick and Dirty tune: undervolted the 265KF by 50mv, stock P cores, upped ecores to 48x, NGU to 34, D2D to 36, ram at bone stock XMP 6400mhz cl32 -tightened TRFC to 440 and TREFI to 65535

Aida read:

Initial findings testing out hogwarts legacy and remnant 2, SOTR:

Basically, my 9800x3d's 0.1% lows are slightly worse - for whatever reason my case - the intel platform somehow has higher 0.1%, and sometimes even 1% - mins in many cases and is coming from a substantially lower average FPS - so it actually ends up 'feeling' alot better -- kind of interesting. This is with a dirty windows install and all the AMD drivers and stuff still on the system - also I can now enable afterburner

Temperatures and power draw the 9800x3d is such a beast when undervolted - no contest here i think 9800x3d consistently consumes 30-50W less with CO -20 than the 265KF .

 

[RootinTootinPootin]

MH Wilds and PoE 2 and FF7 Rebirth,

I had the same on POE and POE 2 with my 9950X3D, shader compilation mid game is also worse dipping on my AMD platform which is highly optimised vs my ARL platform and RPL platform.

-Quick and Dirty tune: undervolted the 265KF by 50mv, stock P cores, upped ecores to 48x, NGU to 34, D2D to 36, ram at bone stock XMP 6400mhz cl32 -tightened TRFC to 440

Benchmarks would tell so (high latency) but overall it isn't the real case (I also thought before that was the worse case) though it still feels better vs the AMD platform, but RPL is just FTW for lower latency and high speed RAM

 

[Grimling]

The reason for slightly lower 0,1s on amd x3d compared to intel could also be the fact, that background activity in windows is going into e-cores and the game is on the p-cores on intel, while on amd there are no e-cores, so everything is being on the 8 cores. and if you have windows 11, then there is potentially alot of stuff and telemetry ect going on in the background, and that could lower your 0,1s quite a bit, depending on what is happening in the background and how sensitive the game is.
that's why i use IoT Enterprise w10, there are no apps or stuff going on at all. its just the os itself. helps or course getting better gaming performance.

 

[RootinTootinPootin]

The reason for slightly lower 0,1s on amd x3d compared to intel could also be the fact, that background activity in windows is going into e-cores and the game is on the p-cores on intel, while on amd there are no e-cores, so everything is being on the 8 cores. and if you have windows 11, then there is potentially alot of stuff and telemetry ect going on in the background, and that could lower your 0,1s quite a bit, depending on what is happening in the background and how sensitive the game is.
that's why i use IoT Enterprise w10, there are no apps or stuff going on at all. its just the os itself. helps or course getting better gaming performance.

I already routed every interrupt request on the least favored cores on the 3D V-cache ccd so it doesn't wake the other ccd, its a little bit less than usual when it dips, but it really dips worse as in very very low fps, there's also that traversal dips on some games when you're entering a scene and you try to go back, even with High performance profile (though I advise to not override what the drivers are setting, you're advised to make a backup when you're going to try this as when you start wrecking things in windows it has that 50/50 chance you can go back to where it was before)

 

[abdulhkeem]

I found new probable solution in nvidia control panel
go to adjust desktop size and position
change perform scaling on to GPU
check the box under it "override the scaling mode set by games and programs.
Edit:
AMD has the same option i just don't know where it is exactly so i did not write it.
i found this on reddit here's the link if someone wants to read more about it:
Reddit
the reason for this being the FIX is:
As I understand it, something to do with how a game's window gets scaled to fit the desktop display. Windows handles it by default. Turning on GPU Scaling forces the GPU driver to handle it.
comment from that reddit post.

 

[abdulhkeem]

did that actually work?