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No offense, here are some things that bother me about your understanding of fans.

When people talk about fans, they always talk about the extremes. Which is quietest, which moves the most air, which has the highest pressure. etc. This is because people have misconceptions about fan designs that don't coincide with reality.

First and foremost you must understand that any given fan shape, size, thickness, will have a single speed at which it is most efficient.

My understanding of fans is very simple ... If I hear them I'm not happy.

I started out with

(6) 3 x 140 rad in push / pull
(4) 2 x 140 rad in push pull
(2) Case Front
(2) Front Empty Drive Bays
(1) Rear Fan

Set up Fan control in response to CPU / GPU temps and ran benchmarks. Test Criteria was "if you can sit at the desk w/monitor OFF and can detect that the system is running ...not good enough. Fans were getting up near 800 rpm so can't say I was happy as sound could be detected if AC wasn't on. But adjusted my expectations as in gaming, the fans only got up near 550 in peak gaming sessions and were inaudible; in light load games and AutoCAD they usually shut don (@ 450 rpm). I needed fans for another build and stole the pull fans and bay fans, leaving me with 8 and 7 went in my sons build. Not much time for gaming anymore. Water temps max out a degree or so either side of 30C... tho the wire that feeds the Reeven 6 eyes (displays temps from 5 points in loop+ case air temps) gets disconnected now and then and Im too lazy to open case and fix it. if ya dig back far enough (12 years) on the forum there's a build thread.

And yes, the theoretical addition for each added noise generating device is 3 dB but it as affected by reflective surfaces as
 
I'm another one for the DataVac, but how does this relate to the topic?
Even the mods are on it. State-sanctioned piracy! :cool:

I use[d] a 200w blower. Ain't got need for efficiency and quietness when I only use the thing once or twice a year.
Static phobia is for chumps. Big-a$$ed motor go brrr!
 
Unless they suck...

I just need to leave this quote from the master

That which does not blow, sucks.

I've also wondered about the possibility of computer fans with built in anti-noise.

I used to have some anti-noise fans from Aerocool called Dead Silence. Here's a review, don't think they are around anymore. These were made with an interesting rubberized insulating material and an unusual pattern on the fan blades and were quite quiet. Tongue twister there :P

 
I used to have some anti-noise fans from Aerocool called Dead Silence. Here's a review, don't think they are around anymore. These were made with an interesting rubberized insulating material and an unusual pattern on the fan blades and were quite quiet. Tongue twister there :P
Bought a couple of them out of curiosity way back when. Any “noise-deadening” properties, however dubious, that the materials provided were for naught since my samples had absolutely dogshit bearings that were quite audible by themselves. It’s Aerocool, what you gonna do.
Frankly, the idea of using noise-suppressing materials on fans is fairly pointless anyway - the air stream on sane “home PC use” RPM settings isn’t all that noisy anyway. The noise would come down to the bearing and potential vibrations. The latter is dealt with quite effectively by rubberized corners and tightening up your screws. The former is just down to buying decent models. Of course, there are niche cases of harmonized noise or weird air noise due to flow obstacles, but those aren’t solvable via materials anyway.
 
Bought a couple of them out of curiosity way back when. Any “noise-deadening” properties, however dubious, that the materials provided were for naught since my samples had absolutely dogshit bearings that were quite audible by themselves. It’s Aerocool, what you gonna do.
Frankly, the idea of using noise-suppressing materials on fans is fairly pointless anyway - the air stream on sane “home PC use” RPM settings isn’t all that noisy anyway. The noise would come down to the bearing and potential vibrations. The latter is dealt with quite effectively by rubberized corners and tightening up your screws. The former is just down to buying decent models. Of course, there are niche cases of harmonized noise or weird air noise due to flow obstacles, but those aren’t solvable via materials anyway.

Mine worked well but at the time I had those nasty blower Vega cards, which made the whole thing pointless. I think I still have them in my pile of electronic waste in the garage lmao but cba picking them up
 
I wonder how much thickness and resonance plays a role
"A 25% thicker fan blade width minimizes resonance"

Especially for long blades
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Yeah. About the OP referencing sound. 50~80dB noise in a server room certainly is not due to the amount of 35dB fans. My case had 4x35dB fans and I could hear my dog fart still, and the xbox one acessing its disk while on stand-by.
Anyway, it would be great if online reviewers would focus less on the maximums and more on the efficiency since that wil actually be the problem that most of us would like to have solved.
Here, I can ruffle feathers and say "Fight me", Apple won the colling efficiency with the Mac Pro 1,1~1,3:
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You'd have 5krpm alright if MacOS went into panic, sounding like a 747 on lift-off, but otherwise it has been the finest application of a near silent operating chassis with positive air coefficient, ducting and zero spot colling (which is where you want speed+pressure).

This to say, almost raw fan data is really nice, but you need to add in factors like the chassis, whatever is in the way of air (all the innards) and what are you cooling, to make-up the efficiency of what you are moving heat from/to.
 
Actually, convective cooling is what fans do. It's pretty intuitive by looking only at the word. Convection, wherein "vect" referring to "vector" thereby implies movement. (Vectors are directions of movement if you don't know that.)

Yeah it's confusing because technically conduction is how heat transfers into a medium such as air, and convection is how the medium responds or is directed (by fans).

If you go into astronomy then you'll understand more easily. Convection occurs all the time in the vacuum of space, if it didn't, the sun would overheat and explode. It's true, the sun radiates an absolute **** ton of energy nonstop in its corona (temperature millions of degrees centigrade). It also blows it off as solar wind and photons. If it didn't, it would have gone supernova a long time ago and probably burned a hole in the universe or something insane... Anyway, end of story, the sun heats the earth via convection. It's a lot less confusing if you realize that because its literally energy transferred across a distance in a straight line via some particles. AKA a vector. ConVECTion.

You....jesus.

You've bastardized everything.
Convective energy transfer is when two masses of different temperature mix, and because they interact they will come to a new average. Think about this as if it were an oven, where the CONVECTION oven mixes very hot air from around a coil with relatively cool air to create an area of relatively high temperature. This is not about vectors...and the fact that you somehow BS'd this definition together makes me ask if you are a troll or are genuinely requiring me to speak with smaller words. Convection requires the mixing of fluids...

Conduction is the energy of one surface transferring to another surface. It assumes that things are in contact...like a fluid flow and a tower blade. It conducts heat from point A with higher potential to point B with lower potential. It's...jesus...it's basically all that you consider unless in a vacuum or mixing fluids because "heat" is simply random kinetic energy and we model the universe as a series of atoms...which is kind of like saying energy transfers outward from any point of concentration.

Radiation is what happens when energy is emitted from a black body. Before you somehow make that racist, it's a body that absorbs all energy and emits energy based on radiating it as energy levels shift. IE, imagine a lump of Carbon. It has certain atomic energy level storage. When excited (heated up), it emits only certain radiation spectral, as electrons fall from excited to ground state. This is why you get things like tungsten filament and sodium lights emitting different colors, despite both taking in electricity and converting it into visible light and heat. Again, really crappy process to transfer energy...which is why the sun can be millions of degrees hot for hundreds of thousands of years...turn Venus into a lava world, and Mars can be a frozen landscape despite being nearly a twin of Earth but just a little bit farther on orbital radius.



Now, let me de-stupid your comments about the sun. It is...absolutely idiotic. Convective currents on the sun exist. This is because the plasma, a fluid, moves and swirls. A charged particle field (plasma) moving induces magnetic fields, which can cause things like eruptions of plasma. This is the regular process which will create extremely strong magnetic fields, which may cause coronal mass ejections. These CMEs cause solar flares, because something the size of Earth composed of plasma has a bunch of energy associated with it. CMEs, when pointed at Earth, have enough energy to generate a stream of charged particles. Said stream interacts with the magnetic field of the planet, potentially distorting it and causing electromagnetic distortions...and this children is the Northern Lights. During particularly high solar activity, the voltage induced by the charged particle flow can overwhelm the magnetic field of our planet, dramatically increasing radiation exposure by allowing charged particles to permeate the atmosphere...and to even induce voltages in metals. This has happened in known history...stories of which include telegraphs operating without external power sources, and metal items creating burns when their charged state grounds to something through flammable material...like human flesh.
The solar wind is not about blowing off photons....because photons have no charge. They by definition are packets of radiation...which do not have mass. They are also constantly emitted by the sun...because photons are light, and the sun RADIATES light constantly as the excited state of smashing hydrogen into helium allows excited electrons to step down from highly excited to just excited...

For the record, sun radiates heat. Photons strike objects. Objects radiate what they do not absorb, and what they absorb excites their energy state. If object is a fluid, and is surrounded by other fluid, then this creates convection currents which try to even out the energy of the system. Think the weather...with our atmosphere being heated on one side and not the other... If the photon strikes something solid, like say your car, it cannot mix into the surrounding, so it conducts the random kinetic energy out into the world.
If you want to be even more simple, radiation is so bad at heating that it's cooler under an apple tree's shade than in direct sunlight. Convection is so crap at retaining and transferring heat that a 20 second blast of air can cool your car from 100+ degrees and stifling to breathable...but if you sit your butt down on that seat even after the blast of air you'll wind up with flesh fused to pleather because the 20 seconds of air did nothing to cool the 120 degree seat...but you sitting there raised your butt from 98.6 degrees to 108 so fast that it smells like burning bacon.


I'm going to math at you one last time so you can get the magnitude of how stupid your statements are.
Q = σ * ε * A * T^4 (equation for radiation energy transfer)
σ - Boltzmann constant, (5.67 x 10^-8 W/m²K^4)
ε - Emissivity, between o (perfect reflector), to 1 (perfect black body)
A - surface area of source
T - Temperature, based on 0 being absolute zero.
Note that Radiation only transfers energy at any real rate when your temperature is really high...because 10^-8 is really small.

Q = h * A * (Ts - Tf) (equation for convective energy transfer)
h - convective heat transfer coefficient....which is highly variable based on fluid flow
A - surface area of source
Ts - surface temperature of source
Tf - fluid temperature
Note that this is not a great way to conduct heat...because it only works fluid to surface...and is based on how fluid is mixing.

Q = k * A * (dT/dx) (equation for conductive energy transfer)
k - thermal conductivity
A - surface area of source
dT/dx - temperature gradient from source to environment
Do you get it? Let me help. k is material based. No requirements for mixing, just 1:1 performance. dT/dx is also 1:1, where the difference in temperatures directly changes the energy transfer rate. If you start from the assumption that the fan can always push air of a known temperature...which most computer coolers should assume unless they want to heat up a room, then you only have to meet air flow over the fins to demonstrate how much energy you transfer.

This is why your convection oven cooks a Turkey in hours, your conduction based pan cooks an egg in minutes, and the sun gives you a skin burn after a few hours...despite falling into said sun would evaporate you before you could stand on its surface. The fact that I have to explain basic heat transfer, while you want to bemoan specifications on fans, has me questioning whether you should be allowed to hold any silverware more dangerous than a soup spoon...for your own safety.


Last little bit...because. I'm going to ask you why there are convective currents in space. I think maybe you mistake the magnitude of things because you cannot wrap your brain around the numbers here. There are filaments and strands of matter between spatial bodies...that scientist have recently managed to quantify. It was an insane amount of matter, which inductively you'd assume was huge. Unfortunately, inductive reasoning is not good reasoning. Things like these filaments and things like the Kuiper belt are really really huge. One million pounds of matter, over 1 trillion cubic units of space is 1 pound per million units of space...which is nearly zero....but that's way more than a vacuum and if you have a trillion trillion units of space then it's going to be a lot. Your brain might not register that as being huge, but the math definitely proves it.

You've managed to bastardize English, attempt to rewrite the definition of words based on a third grade level understanding of them, and all of this in service to pretending you know everything about fans. Could you kindly shut up with the demands, and educate yourself, before you act like some savant? I mean, unless you're 13 and this is the "I want to test boundaries, and know everything because I know something" phase then you've managed to have me question whether you're a troll or a hallucinating AI...and at this point I'm leaning to the 13 year old. Convection being about vectors is a hilariously stupid grasp. One second on Google would have told you this was pants on head stupid...and vectors being how energy transfer is...wow.



Reading topics:
Entroy
Maxwell's demon
Basic thermodynamics
A dictionary printed in the last 200 years
STP...what it means and why it matters
....anyone who will ask you "if convection is about vectors, then why isn't conduction about ducting"...literally, anyone....
 
I wonder how much thickness and resonance plays a role
"A 25% thicker fan blade width minimizes resonance"

Especially for long blades
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I'd be curious how the came to this conclusion myself.

Resonance is natural frequency...which means you've want to shift the natural frequency of the system out of operational ranges. The equation for natural frequency is f = (1 / 2π) * √(k / m). That implies that with 25% more mass, they've either changed the resonant frequency so the fan cannot run at it by adding mass or they've decided that additional damping effects are being experienced by having thicker blades which will, by simple mass, oscillate less with the same input energy by virtue of the material properties.


All of that said, I think this is using the wrong terminology to have marketing sell your product. My guess, and it is a guess, is that the 25% increase in mass provides a rigidity that the regular fan does not, meaning that instead of minimizing resonance they are upping mass to effectively absorb near natural frequency operation by dissipating it as additional flexing of the blades. That is to say, a higher mass should decrease the natural frequency, which should allow more frequencies or resonance...unless their operation of the fans now exists with potential frequencies now farther away from viable operational settings.
 
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Apologies to all for joining the fray late.

"No offense" but what a bunch of nonsense!

So offended!!
Me too! I do take offense that you (the OP) think you understand my understanding of fans, and that you think you know what most home computers builders want. I am sorry, but you clearly don't on both points. :(

First and foremost you must understand that any given fan shape, size, thickness, will have a single speed at which it is most efficient.
No I don't have to understand that? Why? Because it does NOT apply to fans used in computers!

It is YOU who must understand how fans work in today's computer systems. Clearly you don't. Whether it be CPU cooler fans, GPU cooler fans, case fans or PSU fans, the fact is, the vast majority do NOT run at a constant, "single" speed. They vary depending on heat, all the way from 0 RPM up to the maximum speed the fan supports. Therefore, YOU MUST UNDERSTAND, the efficiency at "a single speed" is immaterial.

Efficiency means that a fan is producing the most airflow relative to its noise and power draw.
Fan noise has absolutely nothing to do with efficiency in terms of airflow or power draw. The exception being if energy is being wasted while generating that noise by forcing the fan to blow through a heavily obstructed vent, for example, where the air molecules are making noise as they bang into the vent (and the fan's own housing).

And as any one on this site familiar with my opinion on fan noise, they know I really don't like, I mean I REALLY HATE fan noise. That means a fan's noise specs (along with CFM) are MUCH MORE important to me than a fan's efficiency.

And clearly, I'm not alone there as...
My understanding of fans is very simple ... If I hear them I'm not happy.
... ^^^This^^^

Now, the surprising thing about efficiency is that it means there are no fans that are better than others in a general sense.
Bull feathers! What's surprising is you seem to believe that and more importantly, think everyone should. Sorry, but that makes no sense. "No fans that are better than others"? I really don't know how to reply to that because, again it makes no sense at all. Not in general or specifically.

You are essentially saying "in general" (what ever that means), when it comes to efficiency, all fans are equal. And that's nonsense. If that were true, and if someone only cared about efficiency (and not how much air a fan moves, or how quietly it moves it), then they should just buy the cheapest fans they can find! Who cares if the cheap bearings grind and rattle, or that they may seize up soon? ???

The sad reality is that 99% of reviews that I see always look at the maximum performance and not the maximum efficiency.
No, the sad reality is you think maximum efficiency if the most important factor in choosing a fan. It is not. And again, why? Because computer fans spin at different rates, depending on the heat inside the case, inside the PSU, or with the device they are there to keep cool.

But to your claim, most reviews I have seen do point out the CFM at a given RPM. Is that not one measure of efficiency? Those two specs sure are what I look at when researching fans.

Most home computer builders really want efficiency over performance
Nonsense. Please don't pretend you speak for most home builders. You don't. Fact is, I don't recall ANY home builder putting efficiency first. After size, they look at CFM, connector (pins), bearing type, dBa, and of course, cost. Maybe not in that order but those specs. Some look at static pressure, many do not. PWM or DC may factor in. So might RGB or even fan color and warranty.

Efficiency, as a spec, is way down, or not even on the list.

And, IMO, when people think of efficiency, most think of power consumption first. And it would be rare to find a 140mm case fan that eats up more than 6W, even at full speed and maximum CFM. And since most spin most of the time significantly slower than full speed, that power consumption would be considerably less.

the ghetto fan set up to rule them all
Hey! Don't make fun of or dismiss ghetto fan setups. When the cooling fan of my AC condenser unit out back seized up (in the middle of summer, of course), I bought 4 cheap box fans and strapped them all around the unit to keep the compressor inside from overheating and kicking off. It kept the unit running the 3 days before it could be repaired.

As for ghetto fan setups for computers, it is a common troubleshooting practice, among amateurs and pros alike, to blast a desk fan into an open side of the computer to troubleshoot potential heat issues. The only ghetto aspect there is if they neglected to clean out all the dust bunnies first! ;)

As janky as that looks, I'll bet it worked a fair treat.
LOL I bet it did too. I guess the user taped the fan to the case because the fan's base was broken, or they took the base off because they couldn't figure out how to disable the oscillate feature! ??? Next time, don't buy an HP! ;)
 
My concern has never been fan efficiency, unless you mean.

Static pressure VS Db VS RPM for a given CFM rating.

My old computer was the same noise 24/7 at about 47Db of hum with 6 fans at set RPM and a water pump. My current one the CPU fan makes almost no noise, the GPU barely makes any noise unless I overclock it since it's running F@H.
 
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Some people seem very intent on arguing against quiter and more efficient fan technology... hrmmm. All I ever wanted to do was help! It's funny how the human brain works. It gets offended, and in response, trashes its own future. Fascinating.
 
Some people seem very intent on arguing against quiter and more efficient fan technology... hrmmm.
They are fans. They move air. The noise they produce (in context of PC fans) is mostly down to vibrations and bearing noise, neither of which have anything to do with your rant. The air stream noise itself has been mostly optimized via impeller shapes a long time ago and nowadays the tweaks are mostly minor.

All I ever wanted to do was help! It's funny how the human brain works. It gets offended, and in response, trashes its own future. Fascinating.
Cool, cool. You want to address the whole “failing the basic physics” that was pointed out in your posts by other users here or will it be “everyone is just offended” all the way down? Rocking up with a new account into a tech community, posting provably wrong nonsense and then acting the victim is a very strong play, for sure, but maybe tone it down a tad if you want to stay around.
 
As janky as that looks, I'll bet it worked a fair treat.

I tried to tell people full side air intake is the best for ATX.

Hey! Don't make fun of or dismiss ghetto fan setups.

as comical as the picture is, its actual cooling performance would not be hence why I said "to rule them all". While glass side panels have taken over for cases, we do lose out on the side air intake that did show it worked
 
They are fans. They move air. The noise they produce (in context of PC fans) is mostly down to vibrations and bearing noise, neither of which have anything to do with your rant. The air stream noise itself has been mostly optimized via impeller shapes a long time ago and nowadays the tweaks are mostly minor.


Cool, cool. You want to address the whole “failing the basic physics” that was pointed out in your posts by other users here or will it be “everyone is just offended” all the way down? Rocking up with a new account into a tech community, posting provably wrong nonsense and then acting the victim is a very strong play, for sure, but maybe tone it down a tad if you want to stay around.

I...admit my failures. My troll detection is off...and this poster is either a troll or needs a white jacket with extra long arms.

Either way, this about face and attempt to play the victim confirms I failed to detect the intentional attempt to rile people who are more earnest than otherwise would be rational in a forum of randos...or another reason to watch the world burn and simply learn to enjoy that people out there are happy and they think everything is fine. Either way, I should have assumed it when vectors and convection were conflated...so my bad.

Oh well.
My fans are all 100% effective. You divide by zero f**** given, and it opens a hole in reality curated by an entity that loves to eat entropy.
 
I was going to lock this thead, but instead, I'm rewarding those who have a grasp of thermal properties and kicking out the OP.
 
Yeah. About the OP referencing sound. 50~80dB noise in a server room certainly is not due to the amount of 35dB fans. My case had 4x35dB fans and I could hear my dog fart still, and the xbox one acessing its disk while on stand-by.

Here, I can ruffle feathers and say "Fight me", Apple won the colling efficiency with the Mac Pro 1,1~1,3:
View attachment 407867
You'd have 5krpm alright if MacOS went into panic, sounding like a 747 on lift-off, but otherwise it has been the finest application of a near silent operating chassis with positive air coefficient, ducting and zero spot colling (which is where you want speed+pressure).

This to say, almost raw fan data is really nice, but you need to add in factors like the chassis, whatever is in the way of air (all the innards) and what are you cooling, to make-up the efficiency of what you are moving heat from/to.

The Mac Pros built on the Power Mac G5 chassis (so right up the the Tylersburg/5520 dual s1366 Xeons) were such masterfully engineered, superbly crafted machines. I'd say Apple's finest. I wanted to have one but, they still held up in value and are rather difficult to find in excellent condition.
 
My understanding of fans is very simple ... If I hear them I'm not happy.

I started out with

(6) 3 x 140 rad in push / pull
(4) 2 x 140 rad in push pull
(2) Case Front
(2) Front Empty Drive Bays
(1) Rear Fan

Set up Fan control in response to CPU / GPU temps and ran benchmarks. Test Criteria was "if you can sit at the desk w/monitor OFF and can detect that the system is running ...not good enough. Fans were getting up near 800 rpm so can't say I was happy as sound could be detected if AC wasn't on. But adjusted my expectations as in gaming, the fans only got up near 550 in peak gaming sessions and were inaudible; in light load games and AutoCAD they usually shut don (@ 450 rpm). I needed fans for another build and stole the pull fans and bay fans, leaving me with 8 and 7 went in my sons build. Not much time for gaming anymore. Water temps max out a degree or so either side of 30C... tho the wire that feeds the Reeven 6 eyes (displays temps from 5 points in loop+ case air temps) gets disconnected now and then and Im too lazy to open case and fix it. if ya dig back far enough (12 years) on the forum there's a build thread.

And yes, the theoretical addition for each added noise generating device is 3 dB but it as affected by reflective surfaces as

What are you using to control them? i am using a aquacomputer OCTO.
 
Some people seem very intent on arguing against quiter and more efficient fan technology... hrmmm.
Demonstrating you still don't get it. :( You can't lump quieter and efficiency together in that way and pretend that is how cooling fans are selected for efficient cooling of electronics (electronics as a whole, not just computers).

As multiple people have tried to explain to you, fan noise is much a function of bearing type, design and construction, as well as vibration, and air molecules banging into the vent and fan housing.

My suspicion is, or at least it appears you think, and may actually know a little about HVAC or ventilation fans - and that's fine. But from there, you seem to assume you are an expert at cooling heat sensitive electronics. That is not fine. As a respected (and yes, I mean that!) colleague often says, "moose muffins!"

When it comes to computer cooling, noise levels and efficiency are NOT related - as multiple people noted several times now. I am sorry you don't understand, or simply refuse to accept. :(
While glass side panels have taken over for cases, we do lose out on the side air intake that did show it worked
While off topic, I have to emphasize, YMMV!

In my experience, and we did some extensive testing with several cases on this, side panel fans did more to hinder case and component cooling than help it. Why? We concluded the force of air coming in from the side interfered with the desired front-to-back "flow" of cool air through the case. In other words, it caused unwanted turbulence.

There was one, big, significant exception! "IF" the side panel fan blew into a tube that channeled that air directly onto a downward firing CPU cooler or downward firing GPU cooler, that did indeed help those components stay a few degrees cooler. Otherwise, and in most scenarios, the best cooling occurred when the desired front-to-back cooling was not interfered with.

Lesson learned? Don't assume anything. EVERY computer is different. Setup case cooling with best performance without the side panel fan and take measurements. Then add a side panel fan and take measurements. Then go for the configuration that keeps your components the coolest in YOUR case with YOUR setup.
 
In my experience, and we did some extensive testing with several cases on this, side panel fans did more to hinder case and component cooling than help it
I saw that myself when using side case fans, that said I always kept the side panel port(s) open and had better temps than with glass side panels since the CPU cooler and gpu could pull in cooler air themselves

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I saw that myself when using side case fans, that said I always kept the side panel port(s) open and had better temps than with glass side panels since the CPU cooler and gpu could pull in cooler air themselves

caseside.jpg
The list for no side panel fans doesn't need to be long.
Can obstruct air flow traffic.
Will likely obstruct some tower coolers.
Look (your opinion here)
and more wiring.

Air should flow in and then out in a nice direction.
I like the Glass side panels. See through to the intricate details of people's builds, all the different colors and what not. Good stuff.

But what about people that like to cool the back side of the board near the cpu/vrm area?

Anybody running something like this??
See, has a fan there on the backside. Useful?
 
I had an Antec case that could take fans on both side panels.
So I mounted a low RPM intake fan to have a constant flow of air , to cool the backside of the motherboard.
Seemed like a good option to have heat removed from the motherboard.
 
you'll wind up with flesh fused to pleather
Only Audi Nappa bull hide leather for these cheeks (my car is my only splurge outside of computers... and guns... the glock box in these cars is named that for a reason... those 3 keep me broke)

But that post deserves more love.
 
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