Oh come on! Can you be any more trollish or pedantic? No.
Does BatteryPlus, a store, often located in strip malls or next to other retail establishments actually do the breaking down of parts and recycle all the components themselves? No. Of course not. Nor more than Best Buy refurbishes my old refrigerator "on site" when they hauled it away when they delivered my new one. Nor does my mechanic actually do the recycling when he collects my used oil, used anti-freeze, used transmission fluids.
Does Battery Plus "accept" these (and nearly all types) of batteries for recycling to keep them out of landfills and our water supplies? Yes.
Was that the whole point of my comment? Yes.
Of course it was.
Does my local trash collection service actually recycle the plastics, metals, cardboard and glass residents are required, by city ordinance, to put in our blue, green and brown bins? No. Of course not. They separate them in to categories then actual plastic, cardboard, metal and glass recycling companies come get them and [at least hopefully] properly recycle the recyclable, and properly dispose of the rest.
Did it boost your pathetic little self-esteem and ego enough by pointing out that tiny,
petty distinction without a difference"? Did it make you feel all proud, important, triumphant and warm and fuzzy inside? I hope so. Otherwise, I'll pity you even more.
That said, instead of being so quick to accuse others of not reading, I suggest you actually read what BatteryPlus claims they do. I included a link. Did you bother to read it? They clearly say, "
we recycle". So if you have problem with that, go whine and cry to them for false advertising or what ever.
In the meantime, I have 6 old SLA batteries, several CR2032s, and 2 CFL lamps I am taking to them tomorrow - for them to recycling.
Again, reading comprehension. You seem to want to complain I'm a troll, but you failed to read from step one.
The point is the cost of recycling. That's compounded by the cost of collection, the cost of transportation, the cost of creating a method of tearing these batteries apart without exposure to atmosphere, and then the reprocessing of things.
A lead acid battery can literally be trucked to any number of third parties that recondition batteries. None of which need special environmental conditions, and none of which require lab grade equipment.
I do appreciate the bullshit personal attacks you then follow up with, and I'd point to the fact that you need to define petty as completely not reading and understanding anyone else because your ego won't allow it...but then I'd have spent more time thinking about this than you can understand. If you would educate yourself...which is an ask...then maybe you'd get it. Let me short this for you. Nevada, Georgia, and Kentucky. The only three states with any real volume of lithium battery recycling. My concern is that the volume of that recycling is a practical joke... Maybe you get it...maybe not...maybe I expect too much from you. The short answer is that without proper recycling you are pedaling a business that is literally stacking batteries until somebody can eventually get to them. The lead acid batteries of today do not have that problem. It's plain to see when you can buy reconditioned batteries already...which might not have left your city to be returned from a used product to a viable one.
Please, instead of the bullshit personal attacks maybe you should think before you comment something snarky that shows your ignorance. I mean, the discussion was explicitly about who recycled them, not the theoretical lack of places to drop them off at...and your fundamental misunderstanding is why I can trust that you never read.
What? These things haven't been out that long and we already have massive explosions and deaths.
Here is the downloadable report from the incident, translated within the network of the HyResponder project, of which CTIF are active members.
ctif.org
While I agree with some of what you are saying, some of it is not fair.
1) Lead acid batteries do explode. The second you seal them they can no longer vent either heated water or in some cases hydrogen. The difference is that the potential energy stored in a lead acid battery is much lower. I hate to say this, but it's the chemistry.
2) Lead acid batteries are plenty dangerous. If you took a hammer to a lead acid battery you'd wind-up with sulfuric acid. I don't think you get how dangerous that is if you think that it's somehow just fine and dandy compared to lithium. Google sulfuric acid burns, on an empty stomach, and tell me I'm wrong.
3) Recycling does take place. My point is that there are three states with actual facilities. On the other hand, within an hour drive of Charlotte NC, there are more than 7 different battery cell recyclers and manufacturers. If I drop a lithium based phone battery off in Charlotte NC it's got to get collected, sorted, shipped to Kentucky, broken down, and then shipped somewhere else to have the lithium salts the recycler makes reprocessed back into a usable product.
4) That said, it's stupid expensive to do all of that recycling, and still largely governmentally subsidized to be a profitable industry.
5) Anybody familiar with battery buying should be aware of the term "core charge." It's the money you get back when you return your old battery to a parts seller. It's also present for things like alternators. The point is to recycle the expensive bits, like copper and lead, so we have a better future. These are also collection points and not recyclers...so before you start calling me hypocritical understand that the silly high cost of reprocessing metals is only exceeded by the insane cost of making them from extraction.
6) Chinese products causing fires is...a thing. Not arguing. That said, before you get crazy about their safety track record consider that there is differentiation between a safe product built badly and an unsafe product built well. You don't consider that your car is basically detonating thousands of explosions a minute to go...but watching something made in China fall apart and discovering it was a tofu dregs project is common place while the same specifications applied in the US, EU, or other countries lasts decades. Sometimes, safety is about who did it and not what was done. Lithium Iron Phosphate is a good core technology, but if you make the thing badly it's as much of a bomb as anything else with the energy densities that batteries hold.
In short, maybe don't oversell the safety of lead acid. Likewise, keep up to date on the recycling...which is getting better. That said, do retain skepticism. Better is not viable. Safety is something to be concerned with. Oh, and everything fails. The question is whether it fails without harming people, or it's a disaster.
Talk about overselling the safety of lead acid. This just clearly illustrates a total lack of knowledge about the recycling process of batteries.