AMD Pits Dragon Against Spider, Expects Significant Performance Gains

KBD · Nov 18, 2008

damulta, do you think 4x2 cards will be bottlenecked by the Phenom, even if its 2 Phenoms?

btarunr · Nov 18, 2008

Unfortunately, L1A64WS is shelved, or at least awaiting Phenom FX launch. Phenom (II) FX is just binned Agena/Deneb parts in a s1204 package with DSDC support and unlocked multipliers.

DaMulta · Nov 18, 2008

KBD said:
damulta, do you think 4x2 cards will be bottlenecked by the Phenom, even if its 2 Phenoms?

I don't know, and it depends on how the buss system would work with 8 GPUs and 8 Cores. Maybe AMD has a driver that talks to each core separately....That would be cool.....I'm just throwing ideas out.

CPU are bottlenecks to ram themselves.

When they invest 40% into making it faster, they only get 20% back because there has been this game between CPU Speed and Memory speed growing for years.

AMD did it before, they just came out and BAM. I think they could do it again, and I have kept faith in them doing so. I really think they have been drilling out there idea, and their idea is the right path. It's just taking some time to get there.

IDK I have always expected AMD to just slam out a Dual CPU board. That's how the 3870 was given to us, just slam here it is.

They wanted to hide all the facts from Nvidia, and AMD I'm sure is hiding all their little facts as hard as they can from Intel.

KBD · Nov 18, 2008

DaMulta said:
They wanted to hide all the facts from Nvidia, and AMD I'm sure is hiding all their little facts as hard as they can from Intel.

I have faith in AMD also, they have always been about innovation, their financial situation is most liklely the cause of the lack of progress at the moment and i also think that they may be working on something big but keeping hush hush about it. And just releasing roadmaps that dont tell the whole story.

DaMulta · Nov 18, 2008

The 790 can be sooo much more than it is.....

KBD · Nov 18, 2008

DaMulta said:
The 790 can be sooo much more than it is.....

meaning what?

I'm actually surprised that 800-series chipsets are not out for to the Dragon platform

DaMulta · Nov 18, 2008

KBD said:
meaning what?

I'm actually surprised that 800-series chipsets are not out for to the Dragon platform

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_700_chipset_series

KBD · Nov 18, 2008

DaMulta said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_700_chipset_series

i see, i beleive you are referring to its ability to support 2 physical CPU sockets, if thats the case why arent they out, only nvidia chipset has dual socket for AMD.

on a side note, in that article it sez that the chipset is capable of running at 420mhz HT frequency with an FX 62. I'm very surpirised to hear that, FX-62 are very poor overclockers, i'm actually about to sell mine and moving to intel for that very reason.

DaMulta · Nov 18, 2008

Maybe they backed off the idea when they made slow chips. Wait for a day when it matters to release it.

Would be a cool release day.

New 790FX
Dual CPU sockets
DDR3
A cpu that will run 4ghz on air.
Letting you use up to 8 cores x 8 GPU CFx
Shrink the 790FX down to 40 from 65.
http://www.eetimes.com/rss/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=212100139&cid=RSSfeed_eetimes_newsRSS

Deleted member 24505 · Nov 18, 2008

You can certainly see were were the benefit of changing from 38xx to 48xx gpus shows.

KBD · Nov 18, 2008

DaMulta said:
Maybe they backed off the idea when they made slow chips. Wait for a day when it matters to release it.

Would be a cool release day.

New 790FX
Dual CPU sockets
DDR3
A cpu that will run 4ghz on air.
Letting you use up to 8 cores x 8 GPU CFx
Shrink the 790FX down to 40 from 65.
http://www.eetimes.com/rss/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=212100139&cid=RSSfeed_eetimes_newsRSS

yea, most definately, may be they will when AM3 comes out next year. Though i'm sceptical that it will be capable of 4Ghz on air, right now its only possible on LN2.

DaMulta · Nov 18, 2008

Its what people have been screaming for a year lol
4Ghz

TheMailMan78 · Nov 18, 2008

First Spider now Dragon?

HTC · Nov 18, 2008

TheMailMan78 said:
First Spider now Dragon?

Lol

KBD · Nov 18, 2008

DaMulta said:
Its what people have been screaming for a year lol
4Ghz

i really hope u r right. but i remain sceptical until i see some reviews & benchies

DaMulta · Nov 18, 2008

The Dragon

Exavier · Nov 18, 2008

BUT wait you can't run four 4870X2s..they only have one CF 'finger' each...or am I missing something??

DonInKansas · Nov 18, 2008

ShadowFold said:
3dmark(which isn't a game lol)

You obviously don't know fit or the rest of the bench-crazies very well. :roll:

Polarman · Nov 18, 2008

I'm still waiting for real benchies, not nice little graphs.

DaMulta · Nov 18, 2008

Exavier said:
BUT wait you can't run four 4870X2s..they only have one CF 'finger' each...or am I missing something??

You can run CF on the buss SMOOTH on the AMD chipset.

Remember when I ran x1950XTX and X1950XTX together and only lost about 100 points in 3dmark without having a master card

Now soft crossfire sucks on all other chipsets......BUT the AMD ones.

This is from the 06 thread
42 DaMulta Connect3D / MSI X1950XTX XFire 675/999 10380 A64 FX-62 @ 3012Mhz - 200.8FSB

Now my CF 2900 score is only a couple thousand points higher using AMD chips.....

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=38667&highlight=x1950XTX

Haven't seen this thread in ages....

DaMulta · Nov 19, 2008

increments up to 280%

is just madness

Hayder_Master · Nov 19, 2008

im wait for that , so im wait too for tests

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