ATI Radeon HD 5830 Specifications Surface

[wolf]

24 rops would have made more sense to me given they still kept the 256 bit bus and a fair few sp's from that lovely cypress core this chip started with.

 

[Athlonite]

yeah up the ROPs 16's ok for entry level but a performance card even though it's ment to be a little brother of the 5850 should atleast have 20~24 ROPs otherwise it just looks like the 5770's slightly older twin who learns to walk then run before the other

 

[Wshlist]

power

Did you guys notice that power spec:
HD5850 151Watt
HD5830 175Watt

So that would mean there will be more noise, especially if they try to skimp on the cooler's material costs.

 

[TheLaughingMan]

FAIL...An OCed 5770 @1000-1030 will be really close on performance.2 5770s will destroy 5830...

Fail, the 5830 can OC too. That is not a comparison.

 

[El_Mayo]

Fail, the 5830 can OC too. That is not a comparison.

an HD 5830 is a better buy for someone with only one PCI slot and wants performance inbetween the 5770 and the 5850
obviously

 

[TheLaughingMan]

I almost feel bad for the 5830. It is going to get crap for being the middle child. It will always be "Not enough of an improvement over the 5770" or "Not as good as a 5850". We are talking about a cart that I said 2 months ago would be released at $225 and I am going to stand by that.

In addition to what El Mayo said, this is just the beginning. And improved cooler systems will be introduced to the 5830 and I think a decent factor OC (set price around $255) will give the 5850 a run for it's money as the best bang for your buck. Also, this will have to prompt so price adjustments once benchmarks are done depending on how much better than the 5770 it is. If not so much, price may come down to $215, more than expected the 5770 will go down $15 to $25. Either way it is a win.

 

[El_Mayo]

I almost feel bad for the 5830. It is going to get crap for being the middle child. It will always be "Not enough of an improvement over the 5770" or "Not as good as a 5850". We are talking about a cart that I said 2 months ago would be released at $225 and I am going to stand by that.

In addition to what El Mayo said, this is just the beginning. And improved cooler systems will be introduced to the 5830 and I think a decent factor OC (set price around $255) will give the 5850 a run for it's money as the best bang for your buck. Also, this will have to prompt so price adjustments once benchmarks are done depending on how much better than the 5770 it is. If not so much, price may come down to $215, more than expected the 5770 will go down $15 to $25. Either way it is a win.

they can't lose
if people think, "not enough of an improvement over the 5770" they'll have to pick up the 5850
if not, they'll buy the 5770, or even two
they're not exactly gonna run to nvidia right now are they

 

[Completely Bonkers]

If those figures are correct, the power/performance ratio isnt too good. The 5850/5870 looks like a better price/performance and power consumption/performance offering. This is a nasty "SE" edition, for those with long memories. FAIL in my books

 

[1Kurgan1]

Looks dissapointing with 16 ROP's and higher power consumption than a 5850, along with less OC headroom.

 

[OneCool]

Did you guys notice that power spec:
HD5850 151Watt
HD5830 175Watt

So that would mean there will be more noise, especially if they try to skimp on the cooler's material costs.

Yeah I noticed that too.It has to be a typo.I see no reason it should be pulling more max wattage than a 5850

 

[pantherx12]

Looks dissapointing with 16 ROP's and higher power consumption than a 5850, along with less OC headroom.

Why less overclock headroom?

could potentially overclock like a beast, the cards arnt even out yet

 

[MKmods]

Im surprised, the 5850 is going up in price so it looks like the 5830 will be in the 230-250 range. But the specs of the 5830 look like a $179-199 card.

This dosent make much sense to me.

Once its released it will be interesting to compare to a 5850 and 5770

 

[Polarman]

I was expecting something a wee bit better than that.

 

[jaredpace]

Why less overclock headroom?

Because it's the same chip as the 5850 and 5870, shipping from the factor at 75mhz faster stock clocks than a 5850, with less robust power management.

 

[pantherx12]

Because it's the same chip as the 5850 and 5870, shipping from the factor at 75mhz faster stock clocks than a 5850, with less robust power management.

it uses all the same stuff as 5850 I hear, just cards that didn't quite make the cut to be 5850s.


Should over-clock greatly me thinks


With the less rops etc it should produce less heat so have extra headroom there too.

 

[TheLaughingMan]

Is it just me or due the stats for the 5830 look....well..... wrong. The math would suggest they just took the 5770 figures and adjusted them based solely on the new clock speed and increase in Texture units. And it seems to me like the 5770 was used to base them assumed figures on because it has the same number of ROPs. I checked and it really doesn't seem like the additional Streaming processor units were included in these figures. If this is true, it would explain the "increase in power use" but lower pixel fill rate.

I am going to call BS on these figures and wait for the cart itself to be reviewed here at TPU. I think we are all in for a treat.

 

[Lionheart]

I have a feeling that this card is gonna be ROP starved.

 

[rodneyhchef]

I hope we don't see a repeat of the 4830 with this - here in the uk before the 4830 was released you could get a 4850 for ~£100 but after it was released the prices of the 4850 were bumped up and the 4830 was sold for around ~£100 instead. :shadedshu I would've thought 192bit and 24 ROPs would have made more sense than 256bit and 16 ROPs but I guess time and benchmarks will tell...

 

[Wshlist]

Yeah I noticed that too.It has to be a typo.I see no reason it should be pulling more max wattage than a 5850

Run at a higher core, 800 vs 725, so I don't think it's a typo, it's how they decided to make it land between the 5770 and 5850 I guess.

 

[pantherx12]

Would that tiny overclock make that much of a difference in wattage though?

As I don't think it would.

 

[TheGuruStud]

If ATI wants to sell these, then they need Daddy AMD to take over and make them unlockable like the CPUs! Can you imagine how many of these would sell if you could unlock it to a 5850 or at least close (with a simple bios mod)?

 

[chaotic_uk]

Run at a higher core, 800 vs 725, so I don't think it's a typo, it's how they decided to make it land between the 5770 and 5850 I guess.

i say it's a typo , the 5770 only uses 108w under load . are these not a stop gap between the 5770 and 5850 ? , some of the figures do not add up as they are worse than the 5770 and yet use more power

 

[Nick89]

FAIL...An OCed 5770 @1000-1030 will be really close on performance.2 5770s will destroy 5830...

In 3 games out of 100 that you would actually play. Cause crossfire and SLI are both gimmicks.

OMFG whats THAT? I have two 4870's in my system specs!!! HOLY CRAP! how could he say such things!?!?! SURELY he's not suggesting Crossfire and SLI are both worthless and have no performance gains in most games, am I?

 

[MKmods]

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17806/1/

 

[TheGuruStud]

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17806/1/

Such nice coolers on a sub par card makes baby jeebus cry.